What is the more devestating form of government: Fascism or Communism? (1 Viewer)

[George_Washington]

What do you guys think?

I think they are both pretty devestating but if I had to choose living under either, I suppose I would choose fascism just because of the possiblity that maybe I'd be allowed a little more control over the amount of money I was allowed to make and what I could do with it. And at least I might not face as much religious persecution under fascism as I would under communism.

Shoot, I forgot to make a poll for this thread. Can someone put it in there for me? My bad.

 

[Comrade Brian]

Fascism is indeed worse. The state controls what you do.

 

[iamjack]

Fascism is indeed worse. The state controls what you do.

Sad partisan ignorence.

I'm assuming by Communism, George, that you're reffering to the manner of autocratic/authoritarian socialism practiced by the Soviets and the Chinese, among others. This is effectively the same thing as fascism. Two systems of extremity brought on by lack of worldly equilibrium. One for the right, one for the left. Either in the name of sovriegnty, or in the name of resiliancy. Both looping back unto the ultimate middle ground of extreme statist behavior: despotism; "the state controlling what you do."

That's why America is as worthwile as it is, because its ultimate purpose is to strike a balance beween the abstracts of the right and left. Associating cooperation and competition, using community and individuality to their best advantage. Anyone unwilling to do that either can't see the two for what they are, or are prejudiced by those similarly unaware and influenced by extreme, isolated circumstance (Lenin, Hitler etc.).

The first thing anyone should ever consider politically is that, paradoxically, the right and left are the same thing often used towards the same ends.

 

[V.I. Lenin]

"In capitalism man exploits man. In communism it's the other way around".

Yeah...so I don't know. Pure communism, the evil Oh-my-god-they-have-nukes-too Communists that Americans were scared of..they were pretty bad. But so were facists.

Communism, the way most people see it (i.e., the authoritarian state dominated government type) is just as bad as facism.

Facism is supported by the poor, in hopes that the facists will improve their lives and make their country better.

Communism is supported by the poor, in hopes that the communists will improve their lives and make their country better.

A punch in the face from a left hand hurts just the same as one from the right.

 

[Comrade Brian]

Yes, the USSR and China were usually rather fascist, but how bad they were usually depended on the leader. Stalin I find to be as bad as Hitler. But if you then look at Krushchev, well, he wasn't too bad.

 

[iamjack]

Yes, the USSR and China were usually rather fascist, but how bad they were usually depended on the leader. Stalin I find to be as bad as Hitler. But if you then look at Krushchev, well, he wasn't too bad.

Ok, so Stalin equates to Hitler and Krushchev equates to Moussolini.

 

[FinnMacCool]

If you think of the ways we perceive communism today and facism as well, don't you think they are both the same? I'm actually very interested in learning more about socialism not because I think that it might actually work but because I think its possible that some of those ideas can be developed but it would have to be workable.