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What is Behind The Right’s Obsession with Ocasio-Cortez?

HumblePi said:
I agree completely, a country as wealthy and powerful as the United States should rank #1 in the world for healthcare. Yet, according to a new study from the Institute for Health Metrics and Evaluation (IHME) at the University of Washington, the U.S. ranked #27th in the world for it's levels, not only on healthcare, but in education.

The idea of nationalized healthcare isn't some novel new idea on the part of Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, it's an ideology shared by many of her predecessors, Bernie Sanders being the most recent. And yeah, it's a wonderful dream but in the U.S. that's all it is, a dream. Good intentions are easy but developing and presenting the actual living model of socialized medicine is not realistic.

Here's some of the hurdles that 'healthcare for all' will have to jump over. First and foremost, the idea of healthcare being a profitable business must be abandoned. That means pharmaceutical companies, physicians, hospitals, medical supply companies, oxygen companies, home infusion companies, medical science labs and etc. will have to give up their huge profits. Medical research and development will stagnant without the rewards of vast amounts of cash as their objective.
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You have a closed view of this.

In the US, we are forced to not buy drugs from abroad in spite of the reduced pricing there.

Remove this one prohibition and the price of US healthcare decreases by a whole bunch in that one area immediately.

Tort reform is another area that might help. Playing defensive medicine is costly.

Prior to the establishment of the US Department of Education, the US was ranked number one in education world wide. Now, as you observe, we have fallen way behind.

This is pretty much the track record of most things after the Feds get their hands on them. Our kids can no longer add and subtract or understand history or quote Shakespeare, but they know that social awareness is the most important thing on Earth.

We have REAL problems with our Federal Government overreaching in all areas.

As Reagan said regarding the actions of the government: If it moves, tax it. If it keeps moving, regulate it. If it stops moving, subsidize it.

He also said that the most terrifying thing anyone can say is: I'm from the government. I'm here to help you.

There is a special kind of stupid that accompanies the actions of the Federal Government.

When the federal government decided that it was against the law for one woman to object to the display of another woman's penis in the wash room, we jumped the shark as a nation.
 
Fletch said:
I wasnt 'creeping on her' and I havent fantasized about banging her. But now that you bring it up, I do have a few minutes so maybe I will go rub one out to Americas socialist sweetheart. Ill be right back...
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Seems you have grown tired of rubbing one out the Bernie.
 
Mach said:
She graduated with honors with a degree in economics and international relations, and has served as an intern with Senator Kennedy.

I think you, for example, have no clue about these things. She, on the other hand, has a good start for her age.
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And she was so awesome in her field that she worked tending bar and at a lunch restaurant that had to close down when her preferred policy of a $15 / hour minimum wage made it unprofitable. For someone with a degree in Economics, she makes very simple mistakes. Confusing, for example, the difference between a 10 year and a 1 year budget, or the difference between just-government-expenditures and "expenditures of both the government and the populace".

I have a Masters in Poli Sci; that doesn't make me a political brain. I'm not positive "But I Has A Degree!" is all that terribly great an argument, especially at the undergrad level, of one's ability and intelligence. Mostly it means one has the ability to keep showing up and doing at least minimally acceptable work for 4-5 years.

Also, serving as an intern with a Senator is not especially indicative of one's intellectual force. Intern for SCOTUS, yes, but Anne Coulter would also be in that crowd.
 
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cpwill said:
And she was so awesome in her field that she worked tending bar and at a lunch restaurant that had to close down when her preferred policy of a $15 / hour minimum wage made it unprofitable. For someone with a degree in Economics, she makes very simple mistakes. Confusing, for example, the difference between a 10 year and a 1 year budget, or the difference between just-government-expenditures and "expenditures of both the government and the populace".
I have a Masters in Poli Sci; that doesn't make me a political brain. I'm not positive "But I Has A Degree!" is all that terribly great an argument, especially at the undergrad level, of one's ability and intelligence. Mostly it means one has the ability to keep showing up and doing at least minimally acceptable work for 4-5 years. Also, serving as an intern with a Senator is not especially indicative of one's intellectual force. Intern for SCOTUS, yes, but Anne Coulter would also be in that crowd.
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The idea that you would critique some cherry picked things you believe are mistakes, on the backdrop of our current POTUS who is as dumb as a brick and has made what, 4000-5000 unforced errors as ****ing PRESDIENT, is just too absurd for words. It's a new area, no one cares that you think she's not quite up tot Trump's 88 IQ. Countless Republican morons in the House, but you don't go after them, it's Cortez. You personally go after her because right wing propoganda pushed her to the fore and attacks her, and you happily oblige.

She's a member of the House. Like you know, Jordan and Nunes and Meadows? Those ****ing clowns could be replaced by a middle-schooler and we'd end up with better representation
 
Mach said:
She graduated with honors with a degree in economics and international relations, and has served as an intern with Senator Kennedy.

I think you, for example, have no clue about these things. She, on the other hand, has a good start for her age.
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Interns are a dime a dozen. So she got him coffee. Whoop.
AOC hasn't made ONE cogent argument for how she plans on paying for her Utopia.

Crissakes, her espoused social policies closed down the bar she worked at!
 
cpwill said:
And she was so awesome in her field that she worked tending bar and at a lunch restaurant that had to close down when her preferred policy of a $15 / hour minimum wage made it unprofitable. For someone with a degree in Economics, she makes very simple mistakes. Confusing, for example, the difference between a 10 year and a 1 year budget, or the difference between just-government-expenditures and "expenditures of both the government and the populace".

I have a Masters in Poli Sci; that doesn't make me a political brain. I'm not positive "But I Has A Degree!" is all that terribly great an argument, especially at the undergrad level, of one's ability and intelligence. Mostly it means one has the ability to keep showing up and doing at least minimally acceptable work for 4-5 years.

Also, serving as an intern with a Senator is not especially indicative of one's intellectual force. Intern for SCOTUS, yes, but Anne Coulter would also be in that crowd.
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Clerking is impressive. Being a lacky is not.
 
cpwill said:
:lol: No :)





I keep at least somewhat informed of conservative commentary and the conservative discussion in the United States. I cannot think, offhand, of anyone who considers her a huge threat.
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1. Fox news viewers are the most misinformed people in every poll.

2. Of course conservatives fear her. Fear is what drives the conservative base. Bush used fear in 2004 by having terror alerts whenever John Kerry's poll numbers got too high. trump used the dreaded "caravan" to help motivate your base prior to this last midterm. Conservative policies suck so they use fear to win elections because they have nothing else.
 
The right attacks every prominent democrat they see as politically viable. Start the smear campaign early and keep beating that drum. The right wing motto.
 
lurchadams said:
Their terrified of her because the last time and smart, ambitious, and attractive democrat came onto the national political scene the conservatives were out of power for 8 years. They consider her a huge threat for that reason only.
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*They're
 
JackA said:
Partly it’s her ebullience. She seems upbeat and sunny, and this bothers their sour faces.

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2018/11/alexandria-ocasio-cortez-republicans-obsessed.html
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She got significant media attention from left-friendly sources. Oversized media attention than she deserved. That means she gets oversized attention from the right in response. Also, she's freaking dumb and a gift that keeps giving for the right. I mean...good God man...have you listened to her interviews?
 
Fishking said:
She got significant media attention from left-friendly sources. Oversized media attention than she deserved. That means she gets oversized attention from the right in response. Also, she's freaking dumb and a gift that keeps giving for the right. I mean...good God man...have you listened to her interviews?
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She defeated the potential house majority leader. That deserved the coverage.

What did she say that was dumb?
 
lurchadams said:
Their terrified of her because the last time and smart, ambitious, and attractive democrat came onto the national political scene the conservatives were out of power for 8 years. They consider her a huge threat for that reason only.
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Also, we don't fear her. We love her and want more of her. Keep her in the spotlight pretty please.
 
Fishking said:
Also, we don't fear her. We love her and want more of her. Keep her in the spotlight pretty please.
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Denial aint just a river in Egypt. (I left out the apostrophe in the word, "ain't" to give you the opportunity to be a grammar nazi again, you're welcome )
 
Fishking said:
Also, we don't fear her. We love her and want more of her. Keep her in the spotlight pretty please.
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Oh, don't worry, Fox News has that covered, such as this groundbreaking story:

Ocasio-Cortez claims she can't afford DC apartment, but records show she has at least $15,000 in savings

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/oc...o-afford-dc-apartment-crumbles-under-scrutiny

What I want to know is, if she has as much as $15,000 in savings then why doesn't she own her own house? At the very least, why wasn't she living in a brown stone on Central Park?
 
Cardinal said:
Oh, don't worry, Fox News has that covered, such as this groundbreaking story:

Ocasio-Cortez claims she can't afford DC apartment, but records show she has at least $15,000 in savings

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/oc...o-afford-dc-apartment-crumbles-under-scrutiny

What I want to know is, if she has as much as $15,000 in savings then why doesn't she own her own house? At the very least, why wasn't she living in a brown stone on Central Park?
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Yeah...they'll keep her in the headlines but agree that that story is much ado about nothing.
 
marke said:
She is young and pretty, just like Pelosi once was. Even Hillary was sort of pretty in her younger years. But Occasio, like Pelosi, is two steps shy of being a complete moron when it comes to rightly understanding what is good and right in political issues.
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More empty conclusions without any points. Can you explain why you think she is dumb?

At least the left actually provides quotes and reasons like in the case of a certain POTUS with "the best words"

I dont think republicans have a leg to stand on if we are comparing stupid politicians. All they can do is repeat an empty conclusion until the masses believe it without question.
 
Abbazorkzog said:
15,000 in savings is like... average. Lol
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Depending on your area’s cost of living, 15k is about three months away from disaster, and unless I’m mistaken DC’s CoL is pretty damn high.
 
RetiredUSN said:
In your world, upbeat and sunny makes sound government.

Ebullience? More like imbecilic, and quite fitting of your fellow party voters.
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Conservatives have zero capital when it comes to criticizing politicians for insufficient intelligence.
 
She doesn't fit in to their idea of what elected leaders should look like based on this:

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RetiredUSN said:
In your world, upbeat and sunny makes sound government.

Ebullience? More like imbecilic, and quite fitting of your fellow party voters.
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In your world sound judgment has been replaced with petulance and impulse, but my comment on Alexandria was to her personality.
 
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