What happens to all the AR-15s out there now when they're banned?[W:11]

[TurtleDude]

Re: What happens to all the AR-15s out there now when they're banned?

Yeah, since when would family members have a clue as to what their own family member would have thought?

who cares-it has no relevance to this discussion. and given the lie that you have as a signature, its hard to take anything you say on this subject as having any credibility. why don't you actually address what Josie asked?

 

[jamesrage]

I think the AR-15 WILL be banned eventually across the board --- so what happens to all of the AR-15s out there right now which were purchased legally?

They will be grandfathered in. New AR-15s won't exist in name only.They will be renamed to something else and slightly modified.If you go by the Brady assault weapons ban if you remove a flash suppressor and bayonet lug off a AR-15 then it would no longer be an assault weapon according the Brady assault weapons ban. When the brady assault weapons ban was in effect the civilian AK47s became the MAk90 and Tech-22 pistols became sport 22 pistols. People will find alternatives like a Ruger Mini-14.

 

[Glen Contrarian]

Re: What happens to all the AR-15s out there now when they're banned?

So what's your answer to MY question?

Nothing. The oh-so-evil-terrible lib'rul guv'mint's not a-gonna come git yer guns. Why? Because too much of America doesn't have as much courage as Australia had in response to the massacre in Hobart, Tasmania back in the 1990's. But no, nobody's gonna come confiscate any guns. It would be nice if we could return to an earlier time when Congress, SCOTUS, and even the NRA agreed that the 2A did ensure a right to own firearms, but the public did not have a right to own military-style weapons (and yes, there was such a time).

But that's not going to happen anytime soon - it's simply not politically possible.

Besides, I'm having a real hard time thinking of any time that an AR-15 or a .50 Barrett sniper rifle were ever used to stop a massacre or even a home invasion....

 

[shrubnose]

They could be converted to plowshares.

 

[jamesrage]

Re: What happens to all the AR-15s out there now when they're banned?

Here's what the family of the inventor of the AR-15 had to say:

"Our father, Eugene Stoner, designed the AR-15 and subsequent M-16 as a military weapon to give our soldiers an advantage over the AK-47," the Stoner family told NBC News late Wednesday. "He died long before any mass shootings occurred. But, we do think he would have been horrified and sickened as anyone, if not more by these events."

That is a blatant lie.There were four the year he died and many the previous years.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Mass_shootings_in_the_United_States_by_year

In all, an AR-15 style rifle has been used in at least 10 recent mass shootings — including at an elementary school in Newtown, Connecticut, a movie theater in Aurora, Colorado, and a work party in San Bernardino, California.

The majority of mass shootings are done with handguns.

 

[TurtleDude]

Re: What happens to all the AR-15s out there now when they're banned?

Nothing. The oh-so-evil-terrible lib'rul guv'mint's not a-gonna come git yer guns. Why? Because too much of America doesn't have as much courage as Australia had in response to the massacre in Hobart, Tasmania back in the 1990's. But no, nobody's gonna come confiscate any guns. It would be nice if we could return to an earlier time when Congress, SCOTUS, and even the NRA agreed that the 2A did ensure a right to own firearms, but the public did not have a right to own military-style weapons (and yes, there was such a time).

But that's not going to happen anytime soon - it's simply not politically possible.

Besides, I'm having a real hard time thinking of any time that an AR-15 or a .50 Barrett sniper rifle were ever used to stop a massacre or even a home invasion....

actually its the cowardice of the government and they know what will happen if they try to seize millions of rifles from people who aren't criminals.

I guess you didn't think about the LA riots and those Korean shopkeepers who held off the howling thugs by brandishing those weapons that cause garment soiling by the left.

 

[Josie]

Re: What happens to all the AR-15s out there now when they're banned?

Nothing. The oh-so-evil-terrible lib'rul guv'mint's not a-gonna come git yer guns. Why? Because too much of America doesn't have as much courage as Australia had in response to the massacre in Hobart, Tasmania back in the 1990's. But no, nobody's gonna come confiscate any guns. It would be nice if we could return to an earlier time when Congress, SCOTUS, and even the NRA agreed that the 2A did ensure a right to own firearms, but the public did not have a right to own military-style weapons (and yes, there was such a time).

But that's not going to happen anytime soon - it's simply not politically possible.

Besides, I'm having a real hard time thinking of any time that an AR-15 or a .50 Barrett sniper rifle were ever used to stop a massacre or even a home invasion....

If all of the AR-15s are still going to be out there, how is that going to stop the next massacre?

 

[TurtleDude]

Re: What happens to all the AR-15s out there now when they're banned?

If all of the AR-15s are still going to be out there, how is that going to stop the next massacre?

do you honestly think that stopping the next massacre is really what motivates those who want to ban modern sporting rifles" and since the government will continue to buy thousands of them for their police departments that will mean the black market has a steady supply even if you could seize all the privately owned ones. In 1989, the US MILITARY "lost" 15,000 real M16 rifles btw

 

[Josie]

Re: What happens to all the AR-15s out there now when they're banned?

do you honestly think that stopping the next massacre is really what motivates those who want to ban modern sporting rifles" and since the government will continue to buy thousands of them for their police departments that will mean the black market has a steady supply even if you could seize all the privately owned ones. In 1989, the US MILITARY "lost" 15,000 real M16 rifles btw

*glares at Turtle*

 

[VanceMack]

Re: What happens to all the AR-15s out there now when they're banned?

Nothing. The oh-so-evil-terrible lib'rul guv'mint's not a-gonna come git yer guns. Why? Because too much of America doesn't have as much courage as Australia had in response to the massacre in Hobart, Tasmania back in the 1990's. But no, nobody's gonna come confiscate any guns. It would be nice if we could return to an earlier time when Congress, SCOTUS, and even the NRA agreed that the 2A did ensure a right to own firearms, but the public did not have a right to own military-style weapons (and yes, there was such a time).

But that's not going to happen anytime soon - it's simply not politically possible.

Besides, I'm having a real hard time thinking of any time that an AR-15 or a .50 Barrett sniper rifle were ever used to stop a massacre or even a home invasion....

:lamo

"courage"

Lead the way, pal. Show everyone else how it is done. Start in the inner cities with the gang population. Let us know how that all works out.

 

[VanceMack]

Re: What happens to all the AR-15s out there now when they're banned?

If all of the AR-15s are still going to be out there, how is that going to stop the next massacre?

Its not. Thats not their intent.

 

[VanceMack]

Re: What happens to all the AR-15s out there now when they're banned?

Nothing. The oh-so-evil-terrible lib'rul guv'mint's not a-gonna come git yer guns. Why? Because too much of America doesn't have as much courage as Australia had in response to the massacre in Hobart, Tasmania back in the 1990's. But no, nobody's gonna come confiscate any guns. It would be nice if we could return to an earlier time when Congress, SCOTUS, and even the NRA agreed that the 2A did ensure a right to own firearms, but the public did not have a right to own military-style weapons (and yes, there was such a time).

But that's not going to happen anytime soon - it's simply not politically possible.

people using an AR platform to stop a home invasion...

 

[EMNofSeattle]

Re: What happens to all the AR-15s out there now when they're banned?

In other words, dollars above lives.

No, because legal businesses selling a legal product In accordance with the law are not responsible for lost lives. Just ask millercoors or InBev about this

 

[Glen Contrarian]

Re: What happens to all the AR-15s out there now when they're banned?

No, because legal businesses selling a legal product In accordance with the law are not responsible for lost lives. Just ask millercoors or InBev about this

Yeah? Ask Big Tobacco.

 

[Glen Contrarian]

Re: What happens to all the AR-15s out there now when they're banned?

:lamo

"courage"

Lead the way, pal. Show everyone else how it is done. Start in the inner cities with the gang population. Let us know how that all works out.

Inner cities? Those are just cities. How about posting the ten states with the highest homicide rates? After all, if liberal gun control laws are SO terrible, then this should be reflected in the states that passed them, right? And if conservative gun "freedoms" are so good for peacekeeping, this should be reflected in the states that keep them, right?

 

[Glen Contrarian]

Re: What happens to all the AR-15s out there now when they're banned?

If all of the AR-15s are still going to be out there, how is that going to stop the next massacre?

As time drags on, the AR-15s will become expensive collectors' items...which means that most of them will be out of the reach of minimum-wage workers who decide to blow a paycheck on whatever they can find at the gun store.

 

[VanceMack]

Re: What happens to all the AR-15s out there now when they're banned?

Inner cities? Those are just cities. How about posting the ten states with the highest homicide rates? After all, if liberal gun control laws are SO terrible, then this should be reflected in the states that passed them, right? And if conservative gun "freedoms" are so good for peacekeeping, this should be reflected in the states that keep them, right?

In EVERY ONE OF THOSE STATES...what are the common factors? Inner cities with high minority populations and democrat city governments. Its comical that you return ONCE AGAIN to an argument that you know has been pile driven HARD numerous times in the past. Hopes springs eternal...right? :lamo

 

[SMTA]

Re: What happens to all the AR-15s out there now when they're banned?

Yeah, since when would family members have a clue as to what their own family member would have thought?

They have lived with thousands of deaths so far, so I still call bull**** on their statement.

 

[Glen Contrarian]

Re: What happens to all the AR-15s out there now when they're banned?

In EVERY ONE OF THOSE STATES...what are the common factors? Inner cities with high minority populations and democrat city governments. Its comical that you return ONCE AGAIN to an argument that you know has been pile driven HARD numerous times in the past. Hopes springs eternal...right? :lamo

Wrong answer, guy - Alaska's a great example - no big cities (NO, Anchorage is not a "big city")...but it's in the top ten. Jackson, MS would only qualify as a medium-sized city - barely over 120K spread out all over the place...but MS is in the top ten...and if you'd check the county-by-county homicide stats, you'd find how high the homicide rates are out in the boonies.

If you'd only do some honest research, you'd find that ...

...oh, wait, I forgot - you're one of the handful on DP who blames "inner cities" and "thugs" and uses the whole swath of dog-whistle claims and accusations, as if everyone didn't know exactly what you're trying to say.

 

[VanceMack]

Re: What happens to all the AR-15s out there now when they're banned?

Wrong answer, guy - Alaska's a great example - no big cities (NO, Anchorage is not a "big city")...but it's in the top ten. Jackson, MS would only qualify as a medium-sized city - barely over 120K spread out all over the place...but MS is in the top ten...and if you'd check the county-by-county homicide stats, you'd find how high the homicide rates are out in the boonies.

If you'd only do some honest research, you'd find that ...

...oh, wait, I forgot - you're one of the handful on DP who blames "inner cities" and "thugs" and uses the whole swath of dog-whistle claims and accusations, as if everyone didn't know exactly what you're trying to say.

Seriously dood? ALASKA??? :lamo

You have to go to ALASKA...a state with 3% black population in order to try to find someplace where minority communities dont DOMINATE the crime rates? And Mississippi???

Byram: black population, 52 percent; black arrests, 54 percent
Rankin County: black population, 19 percent; black arrests, 26 percent.
Madison County: black population, 34 percent; black arrests, 78 percent.
Clinton: black population, 34; black arrests, 74.6 percent.
Brandon: black population, 17; black arrests, 44.7 percent
Ridgeland: black population, 33; black arrests, 65.7 percent
Flowood: black population, 17; black arrests, 47 percent
Hernando: black population, 13; black arrests, 33.6 percent
Petal: black population, 10; black arrests, 22.4 percent
Bay St. Louis: black population, 13; black arrests, 27 percent
Pontotoc: black population, 14; black arrests, 26.5 percent
Lee County: black population, 27; black arrests, 48 percent
Southaven: black population, 22; black arrests, 41 percent
Biloxi: black population, 20; black arrests, 36 percent
George County: black population, 8; black arrests, 17 percent

"Alaska"

:lamo

 

[Absentglare]

I think the AR-15 WILL be banned eventually across the board --- so what happens to all of the AR-15s out there right now which were purchased legally?

In the unlikely event that they are banned, they will probably be grandfathered the same way that machine guns are.

 

[TurtleDude]

Re: What happens to all the AR-15s out there now when they're banned?

*glares at Turtle*

the friendly turtle smiles back at one of his favorite posters!

 

[TurtleDude]

Re: What happens to all the AR-15s out there now when they're banned?

As time drags on, the AR-15s will become expensive collectors' items...which means that most of them will be out of the reach of minimum-wage workers who decide to blow a paycheck on whatever they can find at the gun store.

gun control has always had an element of the rich crapping on the poor about it. thanks for confirming that, but the more realistic scenario is that the makers-who are far smarter than the Bannerrhoid politicians, will get around the stupid ban just like they did in 94

 

[EMNofSeattle]

Re: What happens to all the AR-15s out there now when they're banned?

Yeah? Ask Big Tobacco.

As an avid cigar smoker I do not hold tobacco companies liable for any negative consequences to my health that result from my hobby

 

[Glen Contrarian]

Re: What happens to all the AR-15s out there now when they're banned?

Seriously dood? ALASKA??? :lamo

You have to go to ALASKA...a state with 3% black population in order to try to find someplace where minority communities dont DOMINATE the crime rates? And Mississippi???

Byram: black population, 52 percent; black arrests, 54 percent
Rankin County: black population, 19 percent; black arrests, 26 percent.
Madison County: black population, 34 percent; black arrests, 78 percent.
Clinton: black population, 34; black arrests, 74.6 percent.
Brandon: black population, 17; black arrests, 44.7 percent
Ridgeland: black population, 33; black arrests, 65.7 percent
Flowood: black population, 17; black arrests, 47 percent
Hernando: black population, 13; black arrests, 33.6 percent
Petal: black population, 10; black arrests, 22.4 percent
Bay St. Louis: black population, 13; black arrests, 27 percent
Pontotoc: black population, 14; black arrests, 26.5 percent
Lee County: black population, 27; black arrests, 48 percent
Southaven: black population, 22; black arrests, 41 percent
Biloxi: black population, 20; black arrests, 36 percent
George County: black population, 8; black arrests, 17 percent

"Alaska"

:lamo

Yeah, Alaska - the state with the twelfth-highest homicide rate. But I guess it's only the blacks up there who are killing people too, huh?

If you had half the clue you think you do, you'd realize that NO, it's not race - it's freaking POVERTY. Keep a demographic poor - as the Right in the Deep South sure as hell did and DOES try to do - and you're going to see more crime among them.

But if you haven't already, I'm sure that as soon as you read about the Council of Conservative Citizens, you'll be applying for membership there in the next few days.