What happens between Isreal/Palestine (1 Viewer)

[nogoodname]

pretty much sums up the whole conflict its all revenge killing

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fRmafX-LZ7w

 

[cherokee]

pretty much sums up the whole conflict its all revenge killing

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fRmafX-LZ7w

Yes this does teach us a valuable lesson.
Never, Never throw rocks at tanks.:lol:


My god what a load of crap…in your cartoon Israeli soldiers kill the boy who was dumb enough to throw rocks at people with weapons, the dad gets all pi$$ed off because he failed to teach his son the errors of throwing rocks at tanks sooo in his fit of rage he targets a bus full of people who had nothing to do with the death of his son…….

My god you people are so full of chit……..

 

[Vader]

Yes this does teach us a valuable lesson.
Never, Never throw rocks at tanks.:lol:


My god what a load of crap…in your cartoon Israeli soldiers kill the boy who was dumb enough to throw rocks at people with weapons, the dad gets all pi$$ed off because he failed to teach his son the errors of throwing rocks at tanks sooo in his fit of rage he targets a bus full of people who had nothing to do with the death of his son…….

My god you people are so full of chit……..

More like full of ignorance and useless islam-o-facist indoctrination. :roll:

 

[Vader]

pretty much sums up the whole conflict its all revenge killing

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fRmafX-LZ7w

Stop preaching islam-o-facist revenge tatics please. Attacking uninvolved citizens out of revenge is ignorant and totally unforgivable. Attacking uninvolved civilians out of revenge IS MURDER. I don't give a flying horse fart what your islamic indoctronators tell you... IT IS MURDER.

I promise you this .... God/Allah does not take murders into his kingdom.

 

[nogoodname]

Stop preaching islam-o-facist revenge tatics please. Attacking uninvolved citizens out of revenge is ignorant and totally unforgivable. Attacking uninvolved civilians out of revenge IS MURDER. I don't give a flying horse fart what your islamic indoctronators tell you... IT IS MURDER.

I promise you this .... God/Allah does not take murders into his kingdom.

um are u stupid? Did you read my post?:shock: I said that the whole conflict is revenge killings, Isreal makes sucide bombers when it kills civilians and then after that sucide bomber blows up civilians isreal comes in and kills people. When have i preached revenge killing or islam-o-facist tatics? Stfu.

 

[Synch]

Morally equating the IDF and Palestinian terrorists....... Why are anti-semites so complacent in their tactics?


Does Israel kill civilians for the pure purpose of killing civilians? No. The Palestinian terrorists? Yes.

 

[Vader]

um are u stupid? Did you read my post?:shock: I said that the whole conflict is revenge killings, Isreal makes sucide bombers when it kills civilians and then after that sucide bomber blows up civilians isreal comes in and kills people. When have i preached revenge killing or islam-o-facist tatics? Stfu.

Your one line post with a link to terrorist propaganda in it pretty much implies it.

:doh

 

[nogoodname]

Morally equating the IDF and Palestinian terrorists....... Why are anti-semites so complacent in their tactics?


Does Israel kill civilians for the pure purpose of killing civilians? No. The Palestinian terrorists? Yes.

anti-semites is the weakest argument ever. How come when someone is agianst Isreal their all of a sudden bigots who are against Jews?

 

[Synch]

anti-semites is the weakest argument ever. How come when someone is agianst Isreal their all of a sudden bigots who are against Jews?

I'm getting increasingly frustrated over your inability to read..

 

[nogoodname]

I'm getting increasingly frustrated over your inability to read..

Why are anti-semites so complacent in their tactics?arnt u calling me a bigot?

 

[Synch]

You are trying to draw moral equivalency between the Palestinian terrorists and the IDF. I previously stated clearly why they are not the same.

 

[nogoodname]

You are trying to draw moral equivalency between the Palestinian terrorists and the IDF. I previously stated clearly why they are not the same.

They are the same how do you know what Isreal soliders think? They go and bomb lebanon and shoot kids throwing rocks at tanks and that isnt killing civilians? What about the intifidas? Theirs many cases that show Isreal shooting civilians on purpose.

 

[Synch]

They are the same how do you know what Isreal soliders think? They go and bomb lebanon and shoot kids throwing rocks at tanks and that isnt killing civilians? What about the intifidas? Theirs many cases that show Isreal shooting civilians on purpose.

They bomb Lebanon to maintain the security of their nation. I don't know where you get that rock thing from, is there an actual report?

No, there's not a lot of cases where the IDF are shooting civilians for the purpose of killing civilians, show me some.

 

[jallman]

Before I state my stance, let me explain my foundation:

1) I do not believe in anti-semitism or its code name, anti-zionism.

2) I do not believe in the word islam-o-fascism or its application to ordinary life in any islamic state.

What I do believe is that we have people...real people. Mothers, fathers, brothers, sisters, friends, rivals, humanitarians, and selfish territorialists. These people have one thing in common which is an intensely intertwined ethnic history. What they also have in common is that neither has ever had a homeland of its own prior to the last century.

Recently in our history, both Palestine and Israel have become key players in the global political climate. Due to catastrophic global power plays by their respective backers, both have been imbued with a sense of righteous ownership of a territory that is viewed, by both the christian and arab worlds, as the promised land.

It was wrong for western post-nazi guilt to be the driving force that established an Israeli state in a land that there was no prior claim upon. Equally, it is wrong for the arab world to incite murderous vengeance upon those civilians who have been prematurely promised their establishment in said region.

If the west would only look past it's own self righteousness and confess to the rippling, global effects of its own violent arrogance and set about correcting it's mistakes by:

1) Allowing Israel to protect it's own borders against the Arabs in any way they need to ensure their own survival.

and...

2) Abandoning it's dependence on Arab oil and thereby abandoning it's interest in Arab politics

Then we might see a settling of the dust, so to speak. I firmly believe Israel will survive and I firmly believe that Palestinian Arabs will want to see an end to the senseless sacrifice of its children.

If the West would just step out of middle eastern affairs, then I really do believe the middle east would stabilize itself on its own like they have since the beginning.

 

[nogoodname]

Before I state my stance, let me explain my foundation:

1) I do not believe in anti-semitism or its code name, anti-zionism.

2) I do not believe in the word islam-o-fascism or its application to ordinary life in any islamic state.

What I do believe is that we have people...real people. Mothers, fathers, brothers, sisters, friends, rivals, humanitarians, and selfish territorialists. These people have one thing in common which is an intensely intertwined ethnic history. What they also have in common is that neither has ever had a homeland of its own prior to the last century.

Recently in our history, both Palestine and Israel have become key players in the global political climate. Due to catastrophic global power plays by their respective backers, both have been imbued with a sense of righteous ownership of a territory that is viewed, by both the christian and arab worlds, as the promised land.

It was wrong for western post-nazi guilt to be the driving force that established an Israeli state in a land that there was no prior claim upon. Equally, it is wrong for the arab world to incite murderous vengeance upon those civilians who have been prematurely promised their establishment in said region.

If the west would only look past it's own self righteousness and confess to the rippling, global effects of its own violent arrogance and set about correcting it's mistakes by:

1) Allowing Israel to protect it's own borders against the Arabs in any way they need to ensure their own survival.

and...

2) Abandoning it's dependence on Arab oil and thereby abandoning it's interest in Arab politics

Then we might see a settling of the dust, so to speak. I firmly believe Israel will survive and I firmly believe that Palestinian Arabs will want to see an end to the senseless sacrifice of its children.

If the West would just step out of middle eastern affairs, then I really do believe the middle east would stabilize itself on its own like they have since the beginning.

EXACTLY!But its to much to ask that Americans mind their own bussiness.

 

[jallman]

EXACTLY!But its to much to ask that Americans mind their own bussiness.

It's not just Americans though...it is the entire western world. No nation of European idealogy nor western philosophy should play a role in the outcome of a middle eastern territory. The west should allow the middle east to decide it's own outcome, philosophy, and future direction.

 

[nogoodname]

It's not just Americans though...it is the entire western world. No nation of European idealogy nor western philosophy should play a role in the outcome of a middle eastern territory. The west should allow the middle east to decide it's own outcome, philosophy, and future direction.

Yep the west is clinging to its imperliastic days. I belive that the Middle East will look to Islam again and go back to the golden ages, anless some radicals come into power which i hope never happens.

 

[jallman]

Yep the west is clinging to its imperliastic days. I belive that the Middle East will look to Islam again and go back to the golden ages, anless some radicals come into power which i hope never happens.

I don't believe that the "age of Islam" was the golden age. I think that there were several golden ages ranging from babylonian worship of Tiamat and Kenku to the latter Egyptian worships of Thoth and Horus. I don't believe for one minute that the Golden Ages of the middle east are tied in any way to the religious structures of the region.

 

[Tashah]

They are the same how do you know what Isreal soliders think? They go and bomb lebanon and shoot kids throwing rocks at tanks and that isnt killing civilians? What about the intifidas? Theirs many cases that show Isreal shooting civilians on purpose.

I am an IDF officer nogoodname. I have been involved in military actions in the Gaza Strip, Judea/Samaria, and recently in Lebanon. Thus I ask you in plain and simple terms. Am I a muderess and/or a war criminal?

 

[jallman]

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So ummm...why do you support throwing rocks at tanks you subhuman piece of barbarian idiocy. Jesus h particular christ...one would think that the dominant faith would have more of an example to present.

 

[nogoodname]

I am an IDF officer nogoodname. I have been involved in military actions in the Gaza Strip, Judea/Samaria, and recently in Lebanon. Thus I ask you in plain and simple terms. Am I a muderess and/or a war criminal?

No aslong as you didnt kill any civilians on purpose. If you didnt then ur a hero and a solider who served his country.

 

[nogoodname]

I don't believe that the "age of Islam" was the golden age. I think that there were several golden ages ranging from babylonian worship of Tiamat and Kenku to the latter Egyptian worships of Thoth and Horus. I don't believe for one minute that the Golden Ages of the middle east are tied in any way to the religious structures of the region.

I do because Islam made the arabs broke free of their backwardness it told them to give women equal rights and encourged thinking and science and other things.

 

[cherokee]

No aslong as you didnt kill any civilians on purpose. If you didnt then ur a hero and a solider who served his country.

that would be Her country...

 

[Gardener]

I do because Islam made the arabs broke free of their backwardness it told them to give women equal rights and encourged thinking and science and other things.

Women do not have equal rights under Sharia law.

Mohammad may have elevated women's rights from that which existed before, but Islamic law still treats women as second-class citizens.

 

[Synch]

Still waiting my boy... When has the IDF explictly attacked civilians with no possibility of terrorist threats?

Keep in mind these Palestinian terrorists use children to smuggle weapons that will be used for terrorism..

The attempted smuggling of munitions with the aid of boys aged 11-14 years: On 12 February 2004, a group of four teenagers tried to cross the border into Egypt from the Palestinian side of Rafah, in an attempt to smuggle munitions into Israel from Egypt. The youths were recruited by the smugglers in exchange for a paltry sum. One of the boys was slightly injured by IDF shooting, and the other three were arrested by the IDF and taken in for questioning

http://www.mfa.gov.il/MFA/Terrorism...+exploit+children+for+terror+-+March+2004.htm

The boy, who works as a porter in the area, told the soldiers that he was unaware that he was even carrying the bomb. The terrorists, members of Arafat's own Fatah faction, had planned to use the boy as an unwitting suicide bomber, intending to detonate the explosives with a mobile phone as the boy passed near the Israeli soldiers manning the checkpoint.

http://www.mfa.gov.il/MFA/Terrorism...old+boy+into+becoming+a+suicide+terrorist.htm