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What happens after the SC overturns Roe v Wade

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Assume that the SC returns the abortion decision to the states. It seems safe to assume that conservative states will pass laws defining the fertilized egg to be a human being, make abortion manslaughter, ban abortion and install assorted punishments for getting or giving an illegal abortion. All actions have unintended consequences. List and discuss some of those unintended consequences that will happen in those states that ban abortion.
 
All those babies not aborted vote democrat?
 
weaver2 said:
Assume that the SC returns the abortion decision to the states. It seems safe to assume that conservative states will pass laws defining the fertilized egg to be a human being, make abortion manslaughter, ban abortion and install assorted punishments for getting or giving an illegal abortion. All actions have unintended consequences. List and discuss some of those unintended consequences that will happen in those states that ban abortion.
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Let's take a look at the poorer red controlled states. I'm wondering how the state budgets are going to deal with the newborns or will the state just tell them, bend over, grab those bootstraps and pull. We love us some fetus, not so much the babies they turn into.
 
bongsaway said:
Let's take a look at the poorer red controlled states. I'm wondering how the state budgets are going to deal with the newborns or will the state just tell them, bend over, grab those bootstraps and pull. We love us some fetus, not so much the babies they turn into.
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The democrat federal welfare laws still apply
 
weaver2 said:
Assume that the SC returns the abortion decision to the states. It seems safe to assume that conservative states will pass laws defining the fertilized egg to be a human being, make abortion manslaughter, ban abortion and install assorted punishments for getting or giving an illegal abortion. All actions have unintended consequences. List and discuss some of those unintended consequences that will happen in those states that ban abortion.
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It doesn't matter if they define the egg to be a human being. If it isn't a person, it doesn't have rights to life, liberty, and property, while a woman is a person with those rights. The Constitutional definition of a person will still "trump" whatever the state says. The state does not have the power to claim that the egg is a person if the Constitution contradicts that. The Census clause says all persons in the US must be counted by actual enumeration. Embryos and fetuses cannot be so counted, so somebody will take every one of the state laws up the chain of courts to the SC.

If a fetus were a real person, it would have to have a certificate, if not of birth, then of life.
It would have to be named and registered.
It would have to have citizenship, social security registration.
The pregnant woman would be eligible to get welfare for her child.
She would be able to get life insurance for the child and would be owed payment if she had a miscarriage.
It would be problematic to jail a pregnant woman convicted of a crime,
because the state would be incarcerating an innocent child.
Anyone could claim citizenship for an embryo conceived on a honeymoon to the US,
including such states as Guam and such territories as some in the Pacific Ocean which are popular honeymoon destinations.

And that's just a start. . . .
 
choiceone said:
It doesn't matter if they define the egg to be a human being. If it isn't a person, it doesn't have rights to life, liberty, and property, while a woman is a person with those rights. The Constitutional definition of a person will still "trump" whatever the state says. The state does not have the power to claim that the egg is a person if the Constitution contradicts that. The Census clause says all persons in the US must be counted by actual enumeration. Embryos and fetuses cannot be so counted, so somebody will take every one of the state laws up the chain of courts to the SC.

If a fetus were a real person, it would have to have a certificate, if not of birth, then of life.
It would have to be named and registered.
It would have to have citizenship, social security registration.
The pregnant woman would be eligible to get welfare for her child.
She would be able to get life insurance for the child and would be owed payment if she had a miscarriage.
It would be problematic to jail a pregnant woman convicted of a crime,
because the state would be incarcerating an innocent child.
Anyone could claim citizenship for an embryo conceived on a honeymoon to the US,
including such states as Guam and such territories as some in the Pacific Ocean which are popular honeymoon destinations.

And that's just a start. . . .
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Just your opinion 150 million plus Americans consider it murder
 
The numbers of children living in poverty will grow exponentially, maternal deaths will grow, children in foster care will grow. These poor States already have issues like this but it will only get worse because they haven't the means to help these children. It sickens me how much they care about the unborn child but don't give a damn about the children once they are born.
 
Callen said:
The numbers of children living in poverty will grow exponentially, maternal deaths will grow, children in foster care will grow. These poor States already have issues like this but it will only get worse because they haven't the means to help these children. It sickens me how much they care about the unborn child but don't give a damn about the children once they are born.
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So California is a state to look at for guidance?


At least those kids have homes and not living in tents on the streets as in California


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Lovebug said:
You can't be serious.
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I have lived in South Carolina I never seen any tent cities, drove through 3rd world Mississippi no tent cities just run down shacks
 
Just think, once abortions are outlawed in the South then instantaneously all the Southern boys and men will no longer have sex drives.
 
Chartered buses will be used to transport women to an abortion friendly state where the procedure can be obtained. For a fee, the bus will take individuals to a clinic, set up the procedure, and after the procedure put the woman up for a night, then transport them back. All meals included. Complete concierge service. Financing available for approved credit.

As a consequence, abortion clinics will begin to crop up on state lines. The service will be called "Baptist Tours" on Urban Dictionary.
 
CaughtInThe said:
Just think, once abortions are outlawed in the South then instantaneously all the Southern boys and men will no longer have sex drives.
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Most get married and do the right thing
 
Bok_Tukalo said:
Chartered buses will be used to transport women to an abortion friendly state where the procedure can be obtained. For a fee, the bus will take individuals to a clinic, set up the procedure, and after the procedure put the woman up for a night, then transport them back. All meals included. Complete concierge service. As a consequence, abortion clinics will begin to crop up on state lines. The service will be called "Baptist Tours" on Urban Dictionary.
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Most of the States who are banning or seriously restricting abortions are also making illegal to assist someone in any way who is seeking an abortion.
 
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