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Blackflagx said:Well, I also favor a communist system but I shall go into more detail than comrade Brian. Now when I say communist, I do not mean Stalin's USSR. By communism I mean a communal system of production and consumption based on need and directly democratic workers collectives. These workers collectives would be from the bottom up controled directly by the workers by means of direct democracy. Private enterprize would be abolished and the means of production would be owned by the whole of society. The workers collectives would have ties with other collectives for materials needed to make a product, of course. However, these collectives would cooperate rather than compete, eliminating the market. Federations of these collectives would exist to cover larger areas of exchange and make sure the system runs smoothly. The collectives would produce according to need, and people can freely use the goods and services of society without the means of currency. There would be no government in this at all, and the collectives would freely cooperate to meet the needs of the people.
Before this however, there would be socialism. Under socialism, private enterprize would be illegal and all property would be put into the hands of the directly democratic workers state. There would be a state bank and goods would go according to the work done, or how beneficial it is to society. A worker would get paid far more than a manager. This directly democratic state would exist to wipe out the mass consumerism of capitalism and prepare the world for communism. Once social classes and mass consumerism disapeer so will the state by means of it withering away. When the social classes and the state disapeer, we will have communism as outlined above. That is my view of economics and I would like to hear yours. Id love to start a debate of capitalism and communism/socialism.
You asked for it. Ever actually been in a com/soc country? You know that grocery store you take for granted. They are everywhere. Open 24/7. Nothing like that anywhere else let alone in com/soc nation. Before the wall fell I was walking around East Berlin in my class A's when a young, shabbily dressed couple got close to me and said softly not looking up. "You should thank god you can thank god." True story. How's this com/soc utopia supposed to work again? A logical fair profit sharing plan is the only way I see around the growing gap of econmic classes. But both parties get money from those that will strive to pay the workers the minimun living wage.