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What do you think the other sex should "act like"

Gipper said:
Well, the man dominating the woman in a physical pseudo-sport essentially dismisses the "social construct" argument. I see it as "physiologically-based comparative advantage". You wash dishes and do laundry better than I can, I'm sure. Meanwhile, I kill the beast and exert my testosterone-laden dominance while you cook it and tend to the kids.
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Whatever. I probably bench press more than you :2razz:
 
spud_meister said:
congrats, you're finally becoming a man :2razz:
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I'm pretty sure she can't carry a 300 pound steel-door-and-frame-set from the back of a truck, by herself, 150 feet into a warehouse and set it neatly in the appropriate bay... then do it again 49 more times without stopping for a break. I used to do that pretty regularly when I worked at the builder supply place. :mrgreen:
 
Gipper said:
Well, the man dominating the woman in a physical pseudo-sport essentially dismisses the "social construct" argument. I see it as "physiologically-based comparative advantage". You wash dishes and do laundry better than I can, I'm sure. Meanwhile, I kill the beast and exert my testosterone-laden dominance while you cook it and tend to the kids.
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These comparisons are pretty stupid, and only function to reinforce tension between the genders, because you compare in a way that is unflattering to women, while it is complimentary to men. I dont think there is anything wrong with doing laundry etc, but it turns into something wrong when it is described in this way. Women could easily pick on the least important and least respected aspect of what men do, and compare it with the most respected aspect of what women typically are good at. Hopefully, that wont happen, because gender politics deserves more consideration than that.

Men sometimes say that women are not interested in politics. I think they are, but it is things like the direction this thread is turning that puts them off getting involved in discussing it. This is typical of many useless political stalemates, and not only where gender politics is concerned. It just never goes anywhere, except round and round. It happens with race issues, the Israel Palistine situation, the is Europe better than the US discussion etc etc etc. I suppose it is wise of women to turn it into a light hearted banter or joke situation, because that is the least energy consuming way to deal with it, but still...
 
Goshin said:
I'm pretty sure she can't carry a 300 pound steel-door-and-frame-set from the back of a truck, by herself, 150 feet into a warehouse and set it neatly in the appropriate bay... then do it again 49 more times without stopping for a break. I used to do that pretty regularly when I worked at the builder supply place. :mrgreen:
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That is all man.. All man stuff right there. Damn:)
 
Mell said:
These comparisons are pretty stupid, and only function to reinforce tension between the genders, because you compare in a way that is unflattering to women, while it is complimentary to men. I dont think there is anything wrong with doing laundry etc, but it turns into something wrong when it is described in this way. Women could easily pick on the least important and least respected aspect of what men do, and compare it with the most respected aspect of what women typically are good at. Hopefully, that wont happen, because gender politics deserves more consideration than that.

Men sometimes say that women are not interested in politics. I think they are, but it is things like the direction this thread is turning that puts them off getting involved in discussing it. This is typical of many useless political stalemates, and not only where gender politics is concerned. It just never goes anywhere, except round and round. It happens with race issues, the Israel Palistine situation, the is Europe better than the US discussion etc etc etc. I suppose it is wise of women to turn it into a light hearted banter or joke situation, because that is the least energy consuming way to deal with it, but still...
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A long post taking away time better spent cooking for your man. Get your apron and get to it.
 
Gipper said:
A long post taking away time better spent cooking for your man. Get your apron and get to it.
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That was a long post?
I could write you a book if you'd like - while cooking dinner - in the kitchen - with a spatula . . .

;)
 
Make it fried chicken and a political thriller and I'm definitely down.
 
Gipper said:
Make it fried chicken and a political thriller and I'm definitely down.
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A copy of Overton Window and chicken wings it is!

Jokes aside - my husband thinks I'm sexiest when I cook. He always makes the most of the moments in the kitchen. :shrug: with attention like that *whilst* I cook and bake - you betcha my ass is in that kitchen, sweatin over that stove!!

Good food = damn good foreplay = incredible sex will soon follow.
 
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Aunt Spiker said:
A copy of Overton Window and chicken wings it is!

Jokes aside - my husband thinks I'm sexiest when I cook. He always makes the most of the moments in the kitchen. :shrug: with attention like that *whilst* I cook and bake - you betcha my ass is in that kitchen, sweatin over that stove!!

Good food = damn good foreplay = incredible sex will soon follow.
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Now THAT is how you encourage a woman to cook! :mrgreen:
 
I think that both men and women should be able to take care of themselves, should behave in an ethical way, and should treat other people with the consideration that they'd want. Beyond that, I think it's hot/attractive if a man knows how to fix/build things (but I can do this as well), and I'd prefer that he not spend a lot of time focused on his looks (though I don't think much of women who do this, either).

I don't have a lot of expectations beyond the man being a person of good character (and I hold women to the same standard).
 
Mell said:
FFS! I know this is likely intended as joke, but casual sexist comments are sickening anyway. There is a point when one has heard them so often, that they just become really really annoying.
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Good grief. If you really felt secure about your choices in life, comments like this would roll off your back like water off a duck.

Why are you so determined to look for opportunities to be offended?
 
Aunt Spiker said:
A copy of Overton Window and chicken wings it is!

Jokes aside - my husband thinks I'm sexiest when I cook. He always makes the most of the moments in the kitchen. :shrug: with attention like that *whilst* I cook and bake - you betcha my ass is in that kitchen, sweatin over that stove!!

Good food = damn good foreplay = incredible sex will soon follow.
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My wife just finds it annoying when anyone else is in the kitchen while she cooks :(
 
Mell said:
These comparisons are pretty stupid, and only function to reinforce tension between the genders, because you compare in a way that is unflattering to women, while it is complimentary to men.
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here is the way my wife and i have things split up, and we have them this way because this is how we think they should be split up.

my wife takes the apartment i can provide, and turns it into a home, tastefully, though minimally decorated, and a warm place for intimacy within the family and relaxation. my wife does not work in the sense that she collects a paycheck; instead she works in the sense that she is a teacher, babysitter, judge, chef, entertainer and medical provider to our (soon to be two) children while at the same time serving as a much-needed support for myself. my job is more mentally and physically demanding than hers; but mine has the benefit of ending every day at some point between 4 and 5:30 in the afternoon (though sometimes 24 shifts here in the rear happen). hers does not. in return for her support of myself and the kids, my wife expects that I will do my best to support them, and place their needs and wants ahead of my own. she expects me to provide a good adult male role model for my sons, and to take an active role in their development. she expects me to help pick up the slack when I get home. she expects that if she cooks, I clean (though some days she gives me a break on this).

in our breakdown, men are specialists; we work hard at becoming the best and the brightest at our chosen professions. women are generalists; they must be all things to all members of their family.

without my wife, there is no family. i can provide the necessities of life, but i need her to take those necessities and make life worth living.


as far as cooking is concerned..... on the weekends i do good breakfasts. other than that, if it's not on a grill, i'm strongly dissuaded from attempting to mess with her stuff; which i respect, cause let me tell you, that woman can cook :D. I'm puttin on weight.
 
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I would prefer that men act like men. I often find myself being the more "masculine" of the the two of us in my relationship. Ugh! If I wanted to talk about my feelings all of the time I would date women :)
 
Gipper said:
Naked, frying me a steak, and not speaking unless it's "yes sir".
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I find this utterly disgusting: A frying pan is the quickest way to ruin a steak.
 
I think everyone should comport themselves with dignity and respect and observe the Golden Rule. I haven't read the thread that spawned this one, so I'm operating in a vacuum. :)
 
We need the opposite of a thanks button. Along the lines of a gender-neutral "Jane, you ignorant slut."

Gipper said:
Naked, frying me a steak, and not speaking unless it's "yes sir".
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How old were you, and how long ago was that? There's lots I could do "back in the day" that I can't do now. Running on three hours of sleep spread over a 72-hour period is just one of them.

Goshin said:
I'm pretty sure she can't carry a 300 pound steel-door-and-frame-set from the back of a truck, by herself, 150 feet into a warehouse and set it neatly in the appropriate bay... then do it again 49 more times without stopping for a break. I used to do that pretty regularly when I worked at the builder supply place. :mrgreen:
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Apropos of nothing, and lesson learned the hard way; never fry bacon naked.


Goshin said:
Now THAT is how you encourage a woman to cook! :mrgreen:
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ads1981 said:
We need the opposite of a thanks button. Along the lines of a gender-neutral "Jane, you ignorant slut."
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yeah I agree with the disagree button - I look best with clothes on. Surely being naked frying a steak would be a turn *off* . . . and who fries steaks anyway! I prep them on the grill or smoker like a proper cut of meat should be treated. HRMPH! and being naked outside while cooking like that just isn't advisable.
 
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