What do conservative and liberal mean?

[James972]

And a dictator is what the right would love to turn the donald into.
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Trump is opposed to Green New Deal Great Depression and universal health which would give president true dictatorial power on scale of HItler Stalin Mao. Notice when conservative and liberal meet conservative is made to feel like kindergarten teacher?

 

[James972]

Conservatives say empty **** like "liberty" and "freedom" which mean nothing. I mean, really, define freedom?

Aristotle Jesus Locke Jefferson defined it as freedom from liberal govt since liberal govt had been the source of evil in human history. This is why America is all about freedom for liberal central govt and why our opposition loves central govt and supported HItler Stalin Mao and even now wants socialism after it just killed 150 million. Now do you understand??

 

[James972]

In the end, conservatives have no platform;

?????? they want freedom just as our Founders did. It turned out to be the greatest platform in all of human history. Notice when a conservative and liberal meet the conservative is made to feel like a kindergarten teacher??

 

[bongsaway]

apparently they had bigger weapons in mind since they wanted us equipped to defend ourselves from big abusive liberal govt as they just had to do, and big abusive govt has big weapons indeed. Now do you understand how brainwashed you have been?

If anything you're reaching deeper into left center field for an explanation. How does one understand crazy?

 

[ArtemisBarca]

What do conservative and liberal mean?

1) Those like our Founders who believed in and wanted* personal freedom and thus a limited central government.

2) Those like our Founders who believed a central government was like a monopoly and thus would be mostly mistaken and inefficient at best, and genocidal at worst.

3) Those like our Founders who believed that personal freedom was not only most fulfilling ( pride in being self/family-supporting, etc.)* but was best for humankind because it forced every individual to support himself (like a link in a chain) and thus strengthen the entire community rather than identify some as dependent (or weak links) on others and not contributors.* *

Liberal are the opposite-right?

Great point...

Right wing/conservative = uphold the traditions of the past instead of embracing broad scale change..or return to some bygone era of precived greatness..

Left wing/liberal = ignore the traditions of the past and embrace broad scale change..


Somehow Fox News has convinced its viewers those words , and many others have alternative definitions, and apparently no conservative owns a dictionary lol.


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[vegas giants]

?????? they want freedom just as our Founders did. It turned out to be the greatest platform in all of human history. Notice when a conservative and liberal meet the conservative is made to feel like a kindergarten teacher??

Liberals have been at the forefront of every civil rights advancement in this country.



Every single one

 

[ArtemisBarca]

If anything you're reaching deeper into left center field for an explanation. How does one understand crazy?

Oh no that is an extremely valid point..

If the second amendment is to protect us from the government, guns will not cut it.. we need all the military hardware they have obviously..

I have no problem with guns, but the talking points by the right are just laughable, and like textbook examples of logical fallacies..

“Guns don’t kill people, people kill people.. “ as if anyone thinks guns float off the table and kill people.. obvious logical fallacy..


Just like “it is to protect us from the government!”

When the government has everything including nukes








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[Velvet Elvis]

What do conservative and liberal mean?

Today? Bloods vs. Crips.

 

[James972]

Today? Bloods vs. Crips.

wrong, freedom vs. government

 

[James972]

Just like “it is to protect us from the government!”
When the government has everything including nukes

dear, its a compromise!!! liberal govt can use nukes on us since they would be killing themselves too. Do you understand?

 

[James972]

Great point...

Right wing/conservative = uphold the traditions of the past instead of embracing broad scale change.

Hitler Stalin Mao embraced broad scale change which is why our genius Founders did not. Welcome to your first lesson in American History!.

 

[James972]

some bygone era of precived greatness..

you mean like when we won 2 word wars we did not start , recreated the world in our image, and then policed it in the name of capitalism and Christianity to save and maintain civilization on earth???

 

[James972]

Left wing/liberal = ignore the traditions of the past and embrace broad scale change..

yes this is why liberals spied for Stalin, gave him the bomb, and now are openly communistic despite 150 million recent deaths in pursuit of your broad scale communist change

 

[James972]

Somehow Fox News has convinced its viewers those words , and many others have alternative definitions,

by chance do have an example of this now that you'd had time to think about it??

 

[James972]

If anything you're reaching deeper into left center field for an explanation.

What do you need to be explained? The liberal clean forgot to say

 

[jpn]

The difference between conservatives and liberals:

Liberals fit their beliefs to fit the evidence. Conservatives fit the evidence to fit their beliefs.

 

[James972]

The difference between conservatives and liberals:

Liberals fit their beliefs to fit the evidence. Conservatives fit the evidence to fit their beliefs.

but why are you so afraid to present your best evidence of this if it is true?? this is a debate site not a make silly assertions site. Do you understand?

 

[ArtemisBarca]

by chance do have an example of this now that you'd had time to think about it??

Yea... pick a random paragraph from any Fox News transcript, lol..

For one..


Conservative... conservative means to uphold the establishment, The aristocracy (in America the old money business class... aka trump types).

Liberal/progressive/left wing ... means “those wanting progress through changing the system”..

Off the muscle, I can point at just those 2 definitions there..

According to the Fox News types conservatives are not the establishment they are the outsiders.... when by dictionary definition the conservatives are always the establishment..

Those wanting to protect the status quo are conservatives, those wanting things changed are the liberals..

Conservative means to conserve..

Liberal means to change..

The big business class are the aristocracy of America.

2) How about the fact monarchy, socialism, communism, capitalism, exc are neutral words.. they are not inherently good or evil..


Globalism= thinking globally

It does not mean “secret Illuminati trying to take over the world!” Lol



Conservative propaganda is obviously meant for stupid people... a dictionary debunks ost taking points.


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[James972]

Yea... pick a random paragraph from any Fox News transcript, lol..
For one..
Conservative... conservative means to uphold the establishment, The aristocracy (in America the old money business class... aka trump types).

dear, Trump got 60 million votes and women blacks have more and better jobs than ever in American History. SO if you substituted poor minorities for old money business class you would be accurate. Do you understand now? See why we are positive that liberalism is based in pure ignorance?