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What did Zelensky do?!

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What does Trump severely disagree with?
 
Z is weak sauce for peace. Put on your olive drab, negotiate ( assuming Putin wants to -a big assumption) and just do it
Then the Rada will fall in line -if they get long term security guarantees. if not then he is a waste of effort
 
Z is weak sauce for peace. Put on your olive drab, negotiate ( assuming Putin wants to -a big assumption) and just do it
Then the Rada will fall in line -if they get long term security guarantees. if not then he is a waste of effort

Trump is just a fat orange ***** who is upset Zelenskyy isn't as scared of Putin as he is.
 
Z is weak sauce for peace. Put on your olive drab, negotiate ( assuming Putin wants to -a big assumption) and just do it
Then the Rada will fall in line -if they get long term security guarantees. if not then he is a waste of effort

What did he do that Trump doesn't like?
 
I think the reference is to the fact Z is saying he can't negotiate land for peace without Rada approval

I understand that Trump would be unhappy with his following the constitution, but he's tying the comment to one about how the war should have never happened.

Is he putting that on Zelensky?
 
What does Trump severely disagree with?



Its simple. Throughout human history territorial concessions or swaps are the instruments by which nations at war negotiate a peace where a total defeat by a side is not the case. It's immaterial whether a Constitution authorises it or not. If a nation is winning, its a moot point. If a nation is not winning its unavoidable.

Basically what we have here is Zelensky screaming all over the place that he wants negotiations but also insisting his Constitution does not authorise him to negotiate. Wars are fought over land. And his war with Russia is over land. If they are not to negotiate over land then exactly what are they supposed to be negotiating on?
 
Z is weak sauce for peace. Put on your olive drab, negotiate ( assuming Putin wants to -a big assumption) and just do it
Then the Rada will fall in line -if they get long term security guarantees. if not then he is a waste of effort



It's more complicated than that. Zelensky is not saying its up to the Parliament. He said the Ukrainian Constitution does not allow land swaps. If its the Constitution that does not allow it then only a Constitutional amendment can lift that.

But I think its all bull and Trump is correct. It's an example of the absurdities Zelensky is full of. It's like the Decree he signed, which is still in the books, banning any negotiations with Russia absent regime change. A luxury only a party with the upper hand can afford.
 
I understand that Trump would be unhappy with his following the constitution, but he's tying the comment to one about how the war should have never happened.

Is he putting that on Zelensky?

Yes. Trump needs a reason as to why he will bend over and capitulate to Putin this Friday.

Rewriting history and blaming the war on Zelenskyy should do the trick.

MAGA believes whatever the Orange Clown tells them. No questions asked.
 
Trump and his supporters are all the same. They are against this and that but never say why, just they are against it.
 
Trump and his supporters are all the same. They are against this and that but never say why, just they are against it.

They are anti in order to troll and get attention.

They openly mocked old people dying during the pandemic. Trolling Ukraine during an attempted genocide is a cakewalk for these thinskins.
 
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