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Sometimes, what someone doesn't say, says more about them then what they do say.
Good on him.
seriously?:roll:
Sometimes, what someone doesn't say, says more about them then what they do say.
I agree, show people that he believes Gov't is the highest power.
And those that, are in agreement show us all who they are.
seriously?:roll:
I'm glad he thinks so, because it is.I agree, show people that he believes Gov't is the highest power.
Yes, those of us who don't believe in big scary men and women in the sky, please raise your hands!
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That's not the point, rivrrat, not that you'll ever admit it.
The force that drove the Founding of the Country WAS predicated on a "Creator" a Higher moral authority then the fickle failings of man. Whatever PERSONAL beliefs you have, it's completely dishonest to deny the influence that founded the Country. Don't like that, move to CHANGE the country, but don't insult people with your arrogant insults just cause you happen to have issues.
I have no issues, hon.
The govt grants the rights, so leaving some fairy tale "creator" out of his speech was spot on. It should have been left out of the DOI too.
Sadly, you're comments show a serious lack of understanding history, what motivated the Founding Fathers, or why America came to be. You make the most, absurd comments.
Sadly, you're comments show a serious lack of understanding history, what motivated the Founding Fathers, or why America came to be. You make the most, absurd comments.
My hand is up rivrrat.
Rights given by God (or whatever you want to call that sort of being) are absolutely and completely unless you actually have them to exercise in your life. And if you live in a land where the government says you don't have them - what is your God going to do about it????
That's because you lack the understanding about why that premise is important. If everyone believes or agrees that your rights come from something higher than government, "God" will never have to intervene because men will strike any attempt by govt to subvert those rights. But of course you have to understand that concept first. Those that lack understanding, virtually always on the left, have compromised intellectual immune systems.
You're both wrong. The people grant themselves the rights, not a god, not the government.I have no issues, hon.
The govt grants the rights, so leaving some fairy tale "creator" out of his speech was spot on. It should have been left out of the DOI too.
You're both wrong. The people grant themselves the rights, not a god, not the government.
That's not the point, rivrrat, not that you'll ever admit it.
The force that drove the Founding of the Country WAS predicated on a "Creator" a Higher moral authority then the fickle failings of man. Whatever PERSONAL beliefs you have, it's completely dishonest to deny the influence that founded the Country. Don't like that, move to CHANGE the country, but don't insult people with your arrogant insults just cause you happen to have issues.
OMG. He left that out on purpose? Give me a break.
And, by the way, our "founding fathers" (even THAT reference makes we want to puke) didn't even believe all men were created equal. Our "founding fathers" were a bunch of racists. Those words should have stuck in his throat.
The government didn't give us the Bill of Rights.Individuals can EARN rights by way of ability, intimidation, etc outside of a govt. But when living within the confines of a govt, it most certainly is the govt - by way of the individuals that comprise it - that determines our rights.