I'll end this 'discussion' with you, as I realize that those who have been indoctrinated, as in cults, or victims of gaslighters, as in Trump loyalists are not open to reality or truth, and will continue to argue on a false pretense. I hope some day you will see the light and admit the truth, but I won't hold my breath. If you don't, that's your problem, not mine.
Couldn't agree more!
Stick a fork in them, they're done. McConnell has sealed their fate
MIslabeled. The capital riot wasn't an insurrection. It was a riot.
www.nationalreview.com
MIslabeled. The capital riot wasn't an insurrection. It was a riot.
A riot which appears not to have been incited on that day, but one planned by a number of extremists who became 'in the wong' the moment they breached the security barrier, ones who have been roundly condemned from every side, and ones that the FBI is rounding up and ones which are being criminally charged and tried.
Further over inflating what that riot really was leads down a much worse path. I'm with Tulsi on this one.
Tulsi Gabbard: Domestic-Terrorism Bill Is ‘a Targeting of Almost Half of the Country’ | National Review
The former congresswoman expressed concern about how officials will define the characteristics they are searching for in potential threats.
Oh please. There is no similarity between the capitol riots and the 9/11 terrorist attack. Claiming they were the same just makes you look foolish.
No, but if you charge the Capital building and kill five people on the way and are yelling to hang Pence and to catch Pelosi, then yes, that is attempted coup and insurrection. This is especially true when you are doing it to stop the congress from doings it duty by the constitution. And yes, Trump told the rioters to come to Washington on the 6th and it would be wild. Gehn he told them the only way was to fight and now his followers who rioted are saying they did it because he told them to do it. It is not because your opinions differ from mine that it is being done, but because Trump incited insurrection and his followers tried to carry that out.
Do yo upeople know anything about the constitution and its interpretation by the SCOTUS. The SCOTUS said yo have the right to freedom of speech, but it does not extend to yelling fire in a crowded theater and that is just what trump did when he told his followers to fight and to go down to the Capital building and stop the counting of the Electoral ballots. So if you say we need to change things in this country, that is freedom of Speech. If you tell people to go and fight and stop the vote count, that is yelling fire in the crowded theater.
So their words were a call to violence and not protected speech but they were still just saying things.
The Republicans need to convict Trump and separate from him completely. His crimes while in office and before will continue to be discovered and exposed. He is under a microscope now and nothing will stay hidden. All those who continue to support him will be tarred with the same brush.
That's not really a sufficient defense of the claim that the 1/6 rioters 'It's the same as 9/11'.
Enough of the over emotional already.
Oh heaven forbid that congress, which is already disruptive enough on it's own, especially the House, were to be disrupted from others.
Which part, passage, paragraph or even sentence or sentences, of the transcript of the speech that day would meet the legal bar of incientment?
abcnews.go.com
When he said he would walk with them to the capital but instead went to the White House and watched it on TV for 4 hours and did NOTHING. This was witnessed by all those around him and those who pleaded with him to do something. This is the evidence that will convict him.Enough of the over emotional already.
Oh heaven forbid that congress, which is already disruptive enough on it's own, especially the House, were to be disrupted from others.
Which part, passage, paragraph or even sentence or sentences, of the transcript of the speech that day would meet the legal bar of incientment?
Do please point it out. I have yet someone holding your position point out where such accused incitement actually occurred.This is what Trump told supporters before many stormed Capitol Hill
Many who participated in the chaos as the U.S. Capitol building went under attack on Wednesday came straight from a rally held by President Donald Trump.
Never mind that the FBI investigations have uncovered that this riot from was planned for weeks in advance, rather than being incited on that day.
"Trump told the rioters to come to Washington on the 6th and it would be wild."
True, and wasn't it a wild political event? So many supporters attended, ten's of thousands, that's pretty wild that Trump would have that much support after an election that he lost.
A few among those thousands of supporters made the rash and unwise decision to breach the capitol security barrier (even before the speech was completed), and the instance those individuals did breach the security barrier they were in the wrong, and roundly condemned by all sides (as it appropriate and just), all political parties and many others, and rounded up by the FBI for criminal charges and trials (as is also appropriate and just - accountability for one's actions still being an American value).
I'd leave it up to a US attorney to make his case that Trump was guilty of incitement of this riot. I have so little faith and trust on Congress, as is typical given their poll results so as to not be atypical, to believe that this impeachment is little more than 100% political, and, as has been stated on a number of occasions in this forum, that impeachment is a political process (therefore little more than politically motivated) process..
Of course, opinions differ on all of the above.
NONE!
Because you were so silent when the left was solely 'concerned about painting all republicans as Fascists' you wont mind if your whining now is ignored.
Thats stupid but thanks for making my point.
No, you cant read. That probably explains why you havent a clue as to what fascism is. I said his whining would be ignored, not his post.
You cant read. And you keep proving it.
