What Bush should say in the State of the Union Address.

KCConservative said:

I agree, it is useless. Even Obama said recently that his own party has no direction.

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The statement to which you responded was to reflect the level of your contribution. Said statement aplies to the above quoted response as well.

26 X World Champs said:

Yeah, right....and what brand of happy pill did your doctor prescribe?

The TRUTH is some things are going well, and some things have been a disaster. Get over the propaganda bullshit and try to deal in facts, it's not that hard...

Please prove to me that "almost all Public Schools are open." Also please address that less people have electricity than before the war. How come people in Iraq have to wait on incredibly long lines to get gas and even then it's rationed?

As far as the Sunnis go, do you really want us to believe that they're not strongly behind the insurgency and that instead they will adhere to the Shiite's dominance of the government?

Get real! BTW - See the latest approval ratings for Bush?

Wash. Post / Time Magazine poll from 1-27-06:

1. Do you approve or disapprove of the way George W. Bush is handling his job as president? Do you approve/disapprove strongly or somewhat?

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             -------- Approve --------   ------- Disapprove ------    No   
             NET   Strongly   Somewhat   NET   Somewhat   Strongly   opin.
1/26/06      42       25         17      56       14         42        2

How about Iraq which you base this thread on:

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16. All in all, considering the costs to the United States versus the benefits to the United States, do you think the war with Iraq was worth fighting, or not? Do you feel that way strongly or somewhat?

             --- Worth fighting ---       --- Not worth fighting --      No     
            NET   Strongly   Somewhat     NET   Somewhat   Strongly      op. 
1/26/06     44       32         12        55       13         42          1

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2. Do you approve or disapprove of the way Bush is handling (ITEM)?

1/26/06  - Summary Table*

                                                  Approve    Disapprove    No op.
a. The situation in Iraq                             39          60          1
b. The US campaign against terrorism                 52          45          2
c. The federal budget deficit                        32          64          4
d. Ethics in government                              42          56          2
e. Prescription drug benefits for the elderly        38          51         11
f. The economy                                       46          52          1
g. Immigration issues                                34          57          9
h. Health care                                       37          60          3
i. Taxes                                             45          52          3

Source: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/politics/polls/postpoll_ethics_012706.htm

Did you happen to notice the ONLY area that Bush has a positive rating is National Defense? What a coincidence that all he talks about is the threat against America. He has to scare Americans to get any support.

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Oh wow... opinion polls, that proves that we're losing the war in Iraq, good job. :roll:

Kandahar said:

Everything that goes against your ridiculously stupid worldview is always propaganda by some political force you're against. Just like Pinochet was a hero who was smeared by Marxist propaganda, right? Just like the Contras were freedom fighters, right? You're funny. :lol:

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In this case it is propoganda, the Ambassador put it to Saddam in no uncertain terms that the U.S. would respond. Tariq Aziz the former foriegn Minitster of Iraq has now admitted that the transcripts concerning Ms. Glaspie giving a greenlight for the Iraqi invasion of Kuwait were forged and that the Ambassador never gave any such go ahead to Saddam.

The bottom line is, whether the US Ambassador actually miscommunicated the message or whether Saddam misinterpreted it, he would have acted differently if he thought the United States would retaliate.

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She didn't miscommunicate or give any such message it's a lie and Iraqi propoganda.

Based on what he knew at the time, it wasn't entirely irrational (if a little optimistic in the case of Iran) to assume he could win both wars he started.

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Oh ya you're right ivading Kuwait which was an ally with the U.S. was not an irrational move. :roll:

There were no terrorists in Iraq under Saddam Hussein. Why do you have to lie so much?

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I'm not lying the AlQaeda-Saddam links were well established in the 9-11 Commission Report not to mention that thousands of terrorists were being trained at Salmon Pak.

The more pressing concern is stopping Iran from obliterating the Middle East. If regime change in Iran leaves an anarchy in Iran and/or Iraq, well, we'll burn that bridge when we come to it.

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No we won't you can't worry about it in the future you have to worry about it now before any such military action is taken.

This also overlooks the point that both Iran and Iraq are ALREADY terrorist havens.

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Yes but the terrorists don't run the state like they did in Afghanistan. With Iran it's the difference between a state sponsor of terrorism and a state run by the terrorists.

There's a difference between taking a hardline stance and ignoring the problem. Occasionally calling Iran "evil" doesn't cut it. They're getting closer to nuclear weapons every day, and all our president does is play down the danger to the media and pretend the problem doesn't exist. He's not even preparing for war with Iran. Unless he's planning some kind of surprise attack, I'm gonna say he's a spineless *****.

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OK so let's just forget about Iraq right? The worst thing we can possibly do right now is to abandon the Iraqis.

No, the Shia Islamists in Iraq have nothing in common with the Shia Islamists in Iran. :roll:

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But the Islamists don't control Iraq nobody in Iraq is calling for an Iranian style theocracy the Iraqi people will not stand for another dictatorship.

A few of Sistani's closer allies may not be Iranophilic, but most of the Shiites are.

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That doesn't mean they like the Government of Iran any more than they liked the Baathis regime of Iraq. The younger generation of Iranians don't want the clerics in power either.

26 X World Champs said:

In a word...BULLSHIT! People who oppose the Iraq war do not disapprove of the Afghanistan War. We disapprove because Bush lied, soldiers died, and we have no business being in Iraq. Iran is tricky, 80 million people...Invading IRaq is not something that is viable as long as we're getting killed in Iraq...Bush, the moron, has depleted our force so much that when a genuine threat like Iran surfaces we are incapable of responding because Bush has us in IRaq, which was never a threat. He's a fool.

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What did GWB lie about? The fact of the matter is that your talking points are in line with Osamma Bin Laden, you are more interested in defeating Bush than you are about defeating terrorism, just as in Vietnam the liberals and Democrats have sided with the enemy.

Think you're able to provide one shred of evidence to back up this untruth? You have a habit of making brash statements that have zero facts nor any links to make up the bluster. Until you prove what you write is fact based all that your posts are in reality are opinions, they certainly have no or very little truth in them.

In a September report published in November by the Wash. Post it suggests there are 30,000 fighting insurgents in Iraq, with only 4%-10% being from outside of Iraq...here's the article...prove me wrong...

Source: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/11/16/AR2005111602519.html

That's 3 times the number you posted and it also doesn't mention that approximately 5 million Sunnis support the actions of these 30,000 insurgents. Your making up numbers, they're untrue.

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Ya sure thing what did they do take a poll of the terrorists? Whose making up numbers again? I find it funny that even if there was as large as an insurgency as you claim overthere, that you would support them over the 27million Iraqis that are happy we're there and optimistic about their future.

:rofl I've spent my entire adult life traveling outside the USA. I spend an average of 100 days a year away. Non-Americans HATE Bush, not Americans. They loved Clinton, Reagan, Carter. They hate BUSH. Your premise that governments would sell out the USA to get oil from Iraq is ridiculous. You have this habit of making broad brush stroke accusations that you never back up with any links. I love your approach to diplomacy, "Screw them." :2funny:

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Ya the world really loved Clinton, Reagan, and Carter :roll: sure thing buddy they hated them just as much as they hate Bush you have just had your head in the sand. And I just love your approach to American Foriegn Policy, "ask permission from foriegn powers before we can defend ourselves."

Wow! So France, Germany, Italy, et al are dictatorships in your view of the world? Creditable idea, very creditable. It's interesting that you seem to support "democracy in Iraq" but call mature democracies like France dictatorships? Your posts are funny to read, they're like a stream of unconsciousness.

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Mature Democracies like France? Try mature socialist state run regimes... without economic freedom you can not have political freedom. I could really give two sh!ts what the French and Germans think if it wasn't for the U.S. Europe would be speaking German or Russian by now, so fuc/k them. And Italy's with us in Iraq by the way..