What are some ways to reduce police shootings of unarmed people of color?

[Bodi]

Look, I'm not a big fan of Pol Pot. He went overboard, and in the end, he could have gone about implementing the rule of the people in MUCH better ways. But remember, this was the era of U.S aggression in Vietnam, the My Lai massacre, and the massacre of dissidents by the South Vietnamese government. Pol Pot saw this and, rightfully so, did everything he could think of to avoid Cambodia from suffering the same fate. He had good intentions, but carried out his ideas somewhat poorly.

He didn't go that far overboard considering the scope of what he had to contend with. Yes, killing that many seems excessive but when one factors in the circumstances. Who are the Americans, that just murdered millions of Vietnamese, to call foul? That is hypocrisy... isn't it? Yes... it is.

 

[Bodi]

Take a page from Mao's book and shoot anybody who complains.

Prove that Mao ordered any such thing! Mao was contending with a large dissident population and ordered reforms that brought China to a modern level.

 

[Socrates1]

The poll here allows you to choose more than one answer, since there is no one "right answer." However, most people agree that the level of police brutality in this country, especially towards people of color, in unacceptable, and something needs to be done about it.

What type of sane person comes up with choices described above ? First who said they were unarmed ? Jessie Jackson , Rev. Al ??? Second, how about the felons try complying with the officers request ? Do you realize police have a split second to make decisions that can cost them their lives every single day on the JOB ? If your job is arresting a known felon and he resists and attempts to reach for a gun what do you expect him to do ?

 

[Mycroft]

The poll here allows you to choose more than one answer, since there is no one "right answer." However, most people agree that the level of police brutality in this country, especially towards people of color, in unacceptable, and something needs to be done about it.

You forgot to include, "None of the above".

The highlighted part of your post is possibly true when only considering what liberals think...though it might actually not even be "most" liberals, either.

Myself, I think the level of police brutality against our whole population is at a low level and I think the police are doing a good job of holding accountable and weeding out those officers who do engage in police brutality.

Ergo, all of the choices you include in your poll are unnecessary.

 

[SDET]

The poll here allows you to choose more than one answer, since there is no one "right answer." However, most people agree that the level of police brutality in this country, especially towards people of color, in unacceptable, and something needs to be done about it.

Why does it matter what the color is of unarmed people being shot? Is it only a problem if the person being shot is "of color"?

 

[coldjoint]

Mao never ordered anybody shot besides for murderers and rapists. In fact, he started the 100 flowers campaign in 1957 to ENCOURAGE free and open debate. https://www.marxists.org/history/erol/ncm-5/anti-washington/part-2c.htm

Mao was a pervert who very seldom bathed. He stunk so bad it was hard to be in the same room with him.

 

[Ganapathy]

Mao was a pervert who very seldom bathed. He stunk so bad it was hard to be in the same room with him.

Ad hominem attack. Also, irrelevant. I could say the same thing about many rednecks.

 

[Goshin]

Poll should be up now.

And who are you to enforce YOUR values and wishes upon the culture and traditions of other communities?

You are quite correct. Far be it from me to expect people who live in my society to obey the law and not fight the police. How silly of me.


So, I'll just let Chris Rock explain it to you...

 

[coldjoint]

Ad hominem attack. Also, irrelevant. I could say the same thing about many rednecks.

No. The truth about the mans lack of hygiene. I suppose it is irrelevant but the type of person you are is important. And habits like are disrespectful of others and show no respect for yourself.

A severely flawed and evil man.

 

[earthworm]

Poll should be up now.

And who are you to enforce YOUR values and wishes upon the culture and traditions of other communities?

NOT just Maggie's values , but hers, mine and 300 million more ..99.9% of us !
AND well written by Maggie ...

 

[WillyPete]

An extension to body cameras that I'd like to see is to have them feed real-time into a command post staffed by supervisors who could monitor police encounters, and potentially intervene if things get out of hand.

 

[ksu_aviator]

The poll here allows you to choose more than one answer, since there is no one "right answer." However, most people agree that the level of police brutality in this country, especially towards people of color, in unacceptable, and something needs to be done about it.

Nothing!

There is a study showing that blacks are not shot at a higher rate than whites. In fact, the study suggests it might lean slightly the other way. Black Harvard Economist Finds No Bias Against Blacks in Police Shootings - Breitbart

If you want to slow the number of police shootings, then start a public service class or make a youtube video. I'll even write the script for you.

When you are pulled over, follow the law enforcement officer's instructions.

Say that for five minutes, over and over again. Then, at the end of the class have a one question exam:

"What should you do if a law enforcement officer gives you an instruction:
A. Run
B. Argue and reach for my pocket
C. Follow the instruction
D.Act like you are going to hit him/her"

Done.

Way to many people think that their day in court is in a 7-11 parking lot or on the side of the road. Nope. You have to actually get arrested, enter a plea and go to trial to have your day in court.

Bodycam Video Shows Police Shooting Of Unarmed 19-Year-Old In Fresno : The Two-Way : NPR

 

[Caipira]

This issue isn't about just black people, but it's widely believed to be because of the spin that the media always puts on stories like these. In 2015 there were twice as many whites killed by police as blacks. 50 percent white, 26 percent black. Which is still surprising seeing as more crimes are committed by the black population. In the 75 biggest counties in the country, 57% of murders, 45% of assaults and 62% of robberies were done by the black population, and the average percentage of the black population in these counties was approximately 15%. On top of that, a cop is 18.5 times more likely to be killed by a black person than an unarmed black person is to be killed by a cop. Numbers come from: 5 Statistics You Need To Know About Cops Killing Blacks | Daily Wire

So to me, the real problem is the media and politicians, namely Obama who are constructing this narrative that racism is a part of American culture and that it's rampant in police departments across the nation. Sure, there are racists in America. Hell, there are probably racist cops. I concede that there are some people that are killed by cops who shouldn't be, the police aren't perfect by any means. But the claim that police departments systematically target and kill unarmed black guys for walking down the street or wearing a hoodie is ridiculous.

 

[FluffyNinja]

Look, I'm not a big fan of Pol Pot. He went overboard, and in the end, he could have gone about implementing the rule of the people in MUCH better ways. But remember, this was the era of U.S aggression in Vietnam, the My Lai massacre, and the massacre of dissidents by the South Vietnamese government. Pol Pot saw this and, rightfully so, did everything he could think of to avoid Cambodia from suffering the same fate. He had good intentions, but carried out his ideas somewhat poorly.

He "went a little overboard"??? For real?
So I guess you'll say next that Joe Stalin just had a bad day or two?

 

[Fiddytree]

A general observation, but public bureaucracy and civil service reform often relies on both playing nice to the entry-level employee and bureaucrat while simultaneously ramming reform down their throats whether they like it or not. Removing actors from the stage for superficial reasons won't do anything, because it gives them the easy way out. They can do the jobs as they are told to do them, but you have to show them how to do them, monitor them, and increase the pressure to meet compliance standards.

 

[Fiddytree]

So I guess you'll say next that Joe Stalin just had a bad day or two?

I'm sure he did. The war must have been hell on his vodka stash.

 

[Fiddytree]

"Don't be a person of color"

Interesting.

You always wonder when socialists would evolve into looking at a person's skin color instead of being ass deep into the bookbinding of their copy of Das Kapital to explain injustice.

 

[shrubnose]

We need to teach all Black men to stop walking or driving while Black.

:lol:

Or provide all Black men with head to toe body armor.

 

[Renae]

Mandatory body cams on 24/7 while on duty, tamper-proof, and teeth in the regulations that won't allow them to be circumvented.

I'd call that a good start.

Because it's ONLY the police who have a responsibility in a police encounter right?

 

[shrubnose]

Look, I'm not a big fan of Pol Pot. He went overboard, and in the end, he could have gone about implementing the rule of the people in MUCH better ways. But remember, this was the era of U.S aggression in Vietnam, the My Lai massacre, and the massacre of dissidents by the South Vietnamese government. Pol Pot saw this and, rightfully so, did everything he could think of to avoid Cambodia from suffering the same fate.

He had good intentions, but carried out his ideas somewhat poorly.

Somewhat?

I'd say very poorly.

 

[Renae]

"Don't be a person of color"

So person of color means you are:

Incapable of being rational in dealing with an officer of the law
Incapable of controlling your behavior
Not to be held accountable for your actions, including ignoring repeated orders, having a weapon, acting as IF you have a weapon, mouthing off, violently attacking the officer or other behavior that gets you shot.

Wow, you really think poorly of minorities.

 

[shrubnose]

Pol Pot overthrew an absolute monarchy and opposed U.S imperialism. He just went overboard in his campaign against reactionary terrorists.

Hitler, on the other hand, overthrew a democracy and one of his main goals was killing an entire race of people just for the hell of it.

There is no comparison at all.

Hitler killed a lot more people than Pol Pot did but they were both very bad guys.

 

[Tigerace117]

Prove that Mao ordered any such thing! Mao was contending with a large dissident population and ordered reforms that brought China to a modern level.

Maybe if Mao didn't want to deal with a "dissident population" he shouldn't have overthrown the KMT's rule on the mainland.

Every "reform" Mao made came at the cost of thousands upon thousands dead.

 

[Moderate Right]

The poll here allows you to choose more than one answer, since there is no one "right answer." However, most people agree that the level of police brutality in this country, especially towards people of color, in unacceptable, and something needs to be done about it.

I didn't vote because you just assume police are the problem. What can we do as a society that will stop thugs and criminals from being thugs and criminals so that they don't have contact with police at all? Currently we live in a society that allows criminals to be criminals, to disrespect authority, and to resist arrest. As long as this is the case we will continue to have tense situations in police confrontations. Probably the biggest answer is to give these people opportunities from when they are very young so that they don't go down this road in the first place.

 

[RetiredNSmilin]

also...bring back NIGHTSTICKS.

but none of these options address the real issue. The real issue is urban young sociopathic blacks that commit over 70% of all urban crimes.

That is why innocent young black men are being shot so much. It is because cops cannot discern the differences between a young black man driving to work, and an urban sociopathic thug.

The behavior of the urban sociopathic thugs is the issue, and anyone who appears to resemble them in looks, mannerisms, and dress WILL BE A TARGET. Theirs is NOT a lifestyle to emulate, but many do....and get shot for their efforts.


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