What about those who don't believe in God?

[blarg]

You have nailed your colors to the mast:


"Watch Tower Bible and Tract Society publications have made a series of predictions about Christ's Second Coming and the advent of God's Kingdom, each of which has gone unfulfilled. Almost all the predictions for 1878, 1881, 1914, 1918 and 1925 were later reinterpreted as a confirmation of the eschatological framework of the Bible Student movement and Jehovah's Witnesses, with many of the predicted events viewed as having taken place invisibly. Further expectations were held for the arrival of Armageddon in 1975, but resulted in a later apology to members from the society's leadership...."


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Watch_Tower_Society_unfulfilled_predictions


Is there no updated date for the end of the world ?


Are you one of the lucky 144,000 ?

i know its all bull**** but you get that she is cool with living on a reformed earth as opposed to ruling over it in heaven right?

as long as all of us unbelievers are dead of course

 

[Tim the plumber]

An aside regarding the bolded: turbulence has been a huge problem in mathematics. In fact, it's still a huge unsolved problem in physics.

https://royalsocietypublishing.org/doi/full/10.1098/rsta.2010.0332

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turbulence#cite_note-eames-quoting-feynman-4

Yes, er, and? How does that impact the deposition and errosion of a river? Any established river will only be flowing turbulently in a very very small section of its' course. Basically at water falls. It will be erroding there.

 

[Omega Man]

So an Atheist will admit that there is a chance (however small it may be) that they are wrong and God (or a god/gads) does exist.

That would be an Agnostic.


OM

 

[Omega Man]

jesus took his throne in 1914, not 1975...

??


Om

 

[Tim the plumber]

That would be an Agnostic.


OM

No. Atheist does not believe in God/gods/fairies.

Nobody sane claims they know or can prove that God/gods/Santa does not exist.

God botherers want the word to mean that they know but they lie all the time and should be understood as such.

 

[Omega Man]

No. Atheist does not believe in God/gods/fairies.

Nobody sane claims they know or can prove that God/gods/Santa does not exist.

God botherers want the word to mean that they know but they lie all the time and should be understood as such.

That wasn't what I was commenting on; and I agree with your assessment that atheists take the rigid position of claiming God doesn't exist. I however was commenting on what Rich2018 said, that he (as a self-professed "atheist") would be willing to concede he is mistaken. You and he differ.


OM

 

[Daisy]

??


Om

We believe, according to Bible prophecy, Christ's kingly rule/invisible second coming "in the clouds" occurred in 1914...

https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/pc/r1/lp-e/101993327/0/0

 

[Tim the plumber]

That wasn't what I was commenting on; and I agree with your assessment that atheists take the rigid position of claiming God doesn't exist. I however was commenting on what Rich2018 said, that he (as a self-professed "atheist") would be willing to concede he is mistaken. You and he differ.


OM

No we do not differ.

Both of us knows we don't believe in God. We are not at all unsure about that.

Neither of claims to know that God does not exist.

Not complex.

 

[Omega Man]

We believe, according to Bible prophecy, Christ's kingly rule/invisible second coming "in the clouds" occurred in 1914...

https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/pc/r1/lp-e/101993327/0/0

So, in other words, the fact that industrial technology and military technology came to a head during a period when life expectancies of humans was at an all-time high is somehow proof that a passage in the Book of Matthew was fulfilled? Speaking of which, those particular passages were rather specific that this “coming in the clouds” would occur *at some unknown point* before the end of the 1st century CE. The scriptures, in many places, are very specific on that point.


OM

 

[Omega Man]

No we do not differ.

He, unlike you, said he would be willing to concede. That's night and day there.

Not complex.

You're right; but you made it complex by refusing to acknowledge the difference in stated opinion that you both have.


OM

 

[devildavid]

Curious...this question is to the non-believers...what exactly would it take for you to believe there is a God who created all things?

Show up and let everyone see it at the same time and clarify all the different stories made up about it.

 

[Omega Man]

Show up and let everyone see it at the same time and clarify all the different stories made up about it.

What if it is an impersonal non-anthropomorphized entity of some sort? What if it has always communicated with us, but our species just doesn't understand the language?


OM

 

[Angel]

What if it is an impersonal non-anthropomorphized entity of some sort? What if it has always communicated with us, but our species just doesn't understand the language?


OM

I like this. It also accounts for the diversity of organized religions, all imperfect translations of that "language."

 

[devildavid]

What if it is an impersonal non-anthropomorphized entity of some sort? What if it has always communicated with us, but our species just doesn't understand the language?


OM

If it is impersonal it is no different than any natural physical thing and is not a god at all and in fact would not be capable of what we consider communication.

 

[Daisy]

What if it is an impersonal non-anthropomorphized entity of some sort? What if it has always communicated with us, but our species just doesn't understand the language?


OM

Perhaps to you...to true Christians, it's much more personal...

 

[devildavid]

Perhaps to you...to true Christians, it's much more personal...

What's a true christian? Are they anything like a true Scotsman?

 

[Daisy]

What's a true christian? Are they anything like a true Scotsman?

A true Christian adheres to the teachings of Christ and his disciples...disregarding man-made creeds and traditions...

 

[devildavid]

A true Christian adheres to the teachings of Christ and his disciples...disregarding man-made creeds and traditions...

So there are no true christians, because no one can claim to do that 100% of the time. And no one completely disregards man-made creeds and traditions 100% of the time. A true christian is a unicorn.

 

[Daisy]

So there are no true christians, because no one can claim to do that 100% of the time. And no one completely disregards man-made creeds and traditions 100% of the time. A true christian is a unicorn.

Not true...many do...

 

[devildavid]

Not true...many do...

Never happened in history. You have no evidence of one true christian who perfectly follows it 100% of the time.

 

[marke]

When you post drivel here to try to spread your ideas, that is what this whole forum is about, to persuade the world of your ideas, then they will be challenged.

You will not get a free pass.

Those with unprovable theological beliefs in God are constantly being challenged by those with unprovable atheistic doubts about God.

 

[Daisy]

Never happened in history. You have no evidence of one true christian who perfectly follows it 100% of the time.

No one is perfect, that is true but to strive to be footstep followers, everyone can achieve and many do...

 

[devildavid]

No one is perfect, that is true but to strive to be footstep followers, everyone can achieve and many do...

So they are not true Christians. Striving is not enough.

 

[Daisy]

So they are not true Christians. Striving is not enough.

Striving is everything...when you learn a teaching is not Biblical, such as the trinity or hellfire, and you do nothing about changing how you believe and spread that truth, how is that striving? Simple...it is not...

 

[blarg]

What if it is an impersonal non-anthropomorphized entity of some sort? What if it has always communicated with us, but our species just doesn't understand the language?


OM

in that case that would knock out the all knowing all powerful set of gods and you should not listen to what any one has to say about gods then since they are full of ****