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I guess you should get divorced then! :mrgreen:
No, we knew the ramifications before marriage, but some women are just funny when it comes right down to it... :mrgreen:
Well I vote I don't care what they do as long as they stay out of my business, because that is truly how I feel. I don't care if the government recognizes marriage or not, and I don't care who gets married or who decides not to.
Yes, I am against the State bestowing benefits (or penalties) for personal activities in which it has no compelling interest...
How exactly does one go about defining a "compelling government interest"? I tried looking into it myself but there doesn't appear to be any sort of definitive answer to it.
That is an interesting question. Why would the State be involved otherwise?
Well, the state kind of has to be involved. How else will you make sure that someone isn't marrying a minor or something like that? We need to have marriage licenses at least.
Contract law.
Well, the state kind of has to be involved. How else will you make sure that someone isn't marrying a minor or something like that? We need to have marriage licenses at least.
The State already regulates deviant/immoral behavior through common law. Protection of minors would fall under that. You do not need the State sanctioning of marriage to protect children.
How would they even know if people didn't have to have marriage licenses. Who would require proof of age and make sure it's legit?
How do we currently handle pedophiles? Come on...
Oh, if the State were not involved with licensing how consenting adults live and then bestowing benefits, why would anyone care?
We can only handle them when we KNOW about them. That is the problem with what you are proposing.
Chris, we have laws against abusing children. We do not need a State issued license to regulate the behavior of nor bestow benefits to the activities of consenting adults living or sexual arrangements...
Well I disagree. I think marriage licenses are important to make sure people are not marrying children. That is one step for prevention of such things before the act actually occurs.
Is there a portion of consenting ADULTS with which you're in disagreement? There are already regular, societal laws protecting minors from abuse...
The requirement of a marriage license can prevent a person from marrying a minor. What is your issue with that and what is difficult to understand about that?
Can a minor legally provide consent? Is a minor a consenting Adult? The answer to both is NO...
Yes but if there is no requirement for a license then any adult could marry a minor and there is nothing to prevent them from doing that unless someone turns them in.
Are you saying you don't believe that would happen?
Isn't that essentially what a marriage license is? It's just specific to marriage. At least that's what I always thought of a marriage license.
They can't enter into a contract nor can they provide consent, so why would a marriage license be needed?
That is absolutely untrue, or at least in my neck of the woods. A few years back, there was an incident in Rhode Island (a neighboring state to me), where a tribal smoke shop was raided and shut down by the RI State Police Department. They arrested several people, and now the tribe is no longer allowed to sell cigarettes without collecting taxes for the state. I am QUITE sure that if child molestation was occurring, the police would also perform a raid where you live. They do not live by their own laws. They are allowed to prosecute and similar things according to their own tribal customs, but they are NOT allowed to break federal and/or state laws.
Okay. What is the correct terminology for these groups then?
I said "extremist" Mormons. Please stop misrepresenting what I stated.
Never heard of Warren Jeffs, leader of a polygamist Mormon church in Utah? Yes, the Latter Day Saints are a branch of the Mormon religion.
To be honest, I don't really have a good answer. I don't know if there is a valid term that covers individual members of these other groups. But they are not Mormons.
Mormons are members of the church that is formally called “The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints”. The term “Mormon”*does not cover those who are not members of, or otherwise closely associate with this church. To use the term to describe these other groups, many of which are involved in illegal and immoral activities that Mormons oppose, is to imply that Mormons endorse and engage in these activities.
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