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[Lafayette]

From

Explainer: How Western sanctions will target Russia

The United States and its allies are coordinating new sanctions on Russia after Moscow recognised two regions in eastern Ukraine as independent, officials said.

www.reuters.com

 

[phoenix2020]

I see no mention in that article about the effectiveness of sanctions given the Russia-China economic partnership, so I feel the basic premise falls flat when such a large detail is overlooked.

 

[Juin]

From

Explainer: How Western sanctions will target Russia

The United States and its allies are coordinating new sanctions on Russia after Moscow recognised two regions in eastern Ukraine as independent, officials said.

www.reuters.com

That link is asking for a laissez passer! You may have to be called upon for a summary of the author proposes choking the bear.

 

[Lafayette]

AND WHERE DOES CHINA GET ITS OIL FROM?

I see no mention in that article about the effectiveness of sanctions given the Russia-China economic partnership, so I feel the basic premise falls flat when such a large detail is overlooked.

And China reportedly gets its oil from the Middle-east?

See here: Where Does China Get Its Oil?

Excerpt:

Over the past few decades, China has steadily and dramatically increased its oil imports as well as is refining capacity. As a result, China is now the world’s largest importer and second largest refiner of oil, helping reshape global energy markets. This week, we’re looking at how and when China became the world’s top importer of oil, how its suppliers have changed, and which Chinese companies are the most important to the country’s domestic oil industry.

So, I'll bet the agreement was that:
*Russia gets so much of China's oil that is replaced by the extra-oil China will import from the Middle-east.
*Putin knew well that to invade the Ukraine that the pipeline from Russia would stop bringing gas to the EU. So, lesser income from gas exports to Europe would result by invading eastern Ukraine!

China is just "fronting" for the Russians! Clever people these guys ... !

 

[Gateman_Wen]

Time to start targeting the properties of Russian Oligarchs around the world, from bank accounts and businesses to real estate. Seize valuables for restitution, bulldoze property, make this shit hurt.

 

[Lafayette]

Time to start targeting the properties of Russian Oligarchs around the world, from bank accounts and businesses to real estate. Seize valuables for restitution, bulldoze property, make this shit hurt.

Yes, indeed. Putin and his ilk cannot last forever.

What happened was one of the largest financial-crimes in the history of mankind.

I cannot understand why the Russians have tolerated it this long such a monumental ripoff ...

 

[Schrott]

AND WHERE DOES CHINA GET ITS OIL FROM?



And China reportedly gets its oil from the Middle-east?

See here: Where Does China Get Its Oil?

Excerpt:


So, I'll bet the agreement was that:
*Russia gets so much of China's oil that is replaced by the extra-oil China will import from the Middle-east.
*Putin knew well that to invade the Ukraine that the pipeline from Russia would stop bringing gas to the EU. So, lesser income from gas exports to Europe would result by invading eastern Ukraine!

China is just "fronting" for the Russians! Clever people these guys ... !

Which will hurt Russia, even more.
The UK, which is the hub for Russian money laundering has closed all Russian Banks.
Russia will be an outcast in a week or two, fully depending on its ties to China

 

[joluoto]

Which will hurt Russia, even more.
The UK, which is the hub for Russian money laundering has closed all Russian Banks.
Russia will be an outcast in a week or two, fully depending on its ties to China

UK are closing five Russian banks, which are not all Russian banks operating in London. There is a reason BoJo was grilled today in Parliament over his sanctions being a little weak.

 

[noonereal]

Time to start targeting the properties of Russian Oligarchs around the world, from bank accounts and businesses to real estate. Seize valuables for restitution, bulldoze property, make this shit hurt.

A waste of time.

Scary as it is, as history has taught us, one must draw a line in the sand and fight. Not doing so only puts off the fight and concedes all.

My guess, it is not till Poland is lost and he is marching on Germany that free people will be willing to do what should be done now.

 

[Lafayette]

Which will hurt Russia, even more.
The UK, which is the hub for Russian money laundering has closed all Russian Banks.
Russia will be an outcast in a week or two, fully depending on its ties to China

Which is why Putin went to see his "friend" Xi Jinping a few weeks ago.

To kiss his arse and keep the oil flowing ...

 

[joluoto]

Which is why Putin went to see his "friend" Xi Jinping a few weeks ago.

To kiss his arse and keep the oil flowing ...

Which is funny, because China need to import oil too. So Russia need to import oil from China (while being an exporter), and China exports oil despite having to import oil.

 

[Lafayette]

UK are closing five Russian banks, which are not all Russian banks operating in London. There is a reason BoJo was grilled today in Parliament over his sanctions being a little weak.

From here: Ukraine conflict: UK sanctions target Russian banks and oligarchs


Excerpt:

Sanctions announced by the prime minister include:

• All major Russian banks will have their assets frozen and be excluded from the UK financial system. This will stop them from accessing sterling and clearing payments through the UK. This includes a full and immediate freeze of VTB bank
• Legislation will stop major Russian companies and the state from raising finance or borrowing money on UK markets
• Asset freezes will be placed on 100 new individuals or businesses
• Aeroflot will be banned from landing in the UK
• There will be a suspension of dual-use export licences to cover components which can be used for military purposes
• Within days the UK will stop exports of high-tech items and oil refinery equipment
• There will be a limit on deposits Russians can make in UK bank accounts
• Similar financial sanctions will be extended to Belarus for its role in the assault on Ukraine
• The UK will bring forward parts of the Economic Crime Bill before the Easter recess
• Mr Johnson said there was potential to cut Russia out from the Swift international payment system and "nothing is off the table"

Those being targeted by sanctions include five people deemed to be part of Mr Putin's "inner circle", the Foreign Office said in a statement issued after Mr Johnson's announcement.

Ouch .... !

 

[Lafayette]

PUTIN'S DAUGHTER LIKELY PROPERTY SEIZURE

Which is funny, because China need to import oil too. So Russia need to import oil from China (while being an exporter), and China exports oil despite having to import oil.

It is difficult to understand the BigShat that Putin is getting himself into. But, a recent "lesson" of his upbringing and career was on TV here in France where I live.The same likely was posted on US TV. His connivances go back a long, long time - to the end of Russian Communism and the implementation of free-economy in Russia.

But, what people did not see or report is that the ex-Communist Russian government had one helluva-lotta money in numerous banks. And the present group of Putin-"kleptomaniacs" made sure they got their hands on it and shared it amongst themselves. Fortunately a good deal of that money was shipped abroad, and its whereabouts is well known. It has been seized for the most part in both Europe and the US (possibly also Canada).

Putin is sick, sick, sick in the head and has been for a long, long time. Anyway, of one thing I am sure - his daughter bought a property near Bordeaux (at a phenomenal cost) and that property is now likely "restrained from entry" by the French state-police ...

PS: And what is France doing about property seizure of those in power in Russia? See here: Yachts, houses and bank accounts: France draws up list of Russian oligarchs’ property for seizure

 

[Lafayette]

GONZO

I see no mention in that article about the effectiveness of sanctions given the Russia-China economic partnership, so I feel the basic premise falls flat when such a large detail is overlooked.

Economic partnership me-arse. It's the gas Putin needed when he went to kiss Jinping's backside.

Any maneuver against Russia is going to take time and it will not be military in nature. The battle-&-blood is for the countries and them alone. The rush of arms to the Ukraine army however could have an effect upon Russian advances. Time will tell - but the likelihood is that the battle is going to get uglier. The Ukrainians are going to want revenge for the deaths/destruction they incurred.

After this escapade, the rest of the world likely sees the need to get rid of Putin. That is clearly evident. The only problem being that he commands one helluva lotta atomic-bombs!

There is also reason to believe that not all of the present Russian Army likes what he is doing. After all, they are killing people who can speak their language.

Besides if I were anywhere below 30 and as a Russian soldier I'd wonder what-in-hell-am-I-doing-in-the-Ukraine! What did they do to us ... !

PS: One factor is apparently decided. If these plutocrats had any money in the West, they are out-of-it. Gonzo is their moulah. (The smart ones put theirs in China! Right next door!)

 

[joluoto]

What would really be a big nail in Russia's coffin is if the Middle Eastern countries would stop selling oil to them. Then they'd really be in a difficult position.

 

[Lafayette]

What would really be a big nail in Russia's coffin is if the Middle Eastern countries would stop selling oil to them. Then they'd really be in a difficult position.

Russia supplies 40% of Europe's gas.

Kiss goodby to that ... ?!?

 

[Lafayette]

THE SOURCE OF PUTIN'S IMMENSE RICHES

What would really be a big nail in Russia's coffin is if the Middle Eastern countries would stop selling oil to them. Then they'd really be in a difficult position.

That aint gonna happin. The oil-nations in the Middle-east have learned "neutrality" and its value in selling oil. Which is all that those countries have as well as plenty of sand.

As regards oil-sales, they'd sell to the devil if he had the money. And the devil's name nowadays is Putin.

And what about the "Financial containment" that the Allies are trying to impose upon him and his-cronies (that benefited by literally "stealing" the Russian-state's money and serving themselves.

How did Russia recover after it shoved Communism? I found this personal-story from a Russian as interesting: How did Russia recover so quickly after the fall of the Soviet Union

Excerpt:

Economy. There’s an excellent report here about which sectors of economy were developed in Soviet and modern Russia. As you can see, raw material exports have grown substantially, while the industrial production has fallen. Although the GDP per capita may look greater in modern Russia than it was in Soviet Russia, these numbers are misleading as most of this money is concentrated in the hands of the few elites. As David He rightfully points out, these elites emerged during Yeltsin’s term, and I also touch that point in the answer about Mikhail Khodorkosvsky.

The first term of Putin (2000–2004) was very beneficial for economy - the Chechen war was over, economy was growing steadily, and Putin fulfilled his second-term (2004–2008) promise, too - he effectively doubled the GDP and slowed down a lot of degradation in public affairs, including healthcare and education. Then in 2008 the world financial crisis struck Russia just like the rest of the world. This crisis was following a streak of “color revolutions” or unrest in the ex-Soviet Republics - mainly those that hasn’t yet made their commitment to join NATO with Belarus being the only exception. This led to a number of domestic policy changes.

Of course, was he motivated to save the lifestyle of his fellow-Russians or because he was one of the participants made immensely wealthy by pocketing Russian reserve-funds?

It seems the latter. Nobody really knows but estimates on the Internet are around. Here's one:
Is Vladimir Putin Secretly The Richest Person In The World?

 

[joluoto]

Russia supplies 40% of Europe's gas.

Kiss goodby to that ... ?!?

Yes, time to stop the use of natural gas, please.

 

[Lafayette]

Yes, time to stop the use of natural gas, please.

I fear nonetheless that such wont happen.

From here: Energy consumption in households

In the EU in 2019, 39 % of the electricity consumed came from power stations burning fossil fuels and 35 % from renewable energy sources, while 26 % came from nuclear power plants.

It will not be easy diminishing electricity from power-stations burning fossil-fuels. But a country has to start somewhere ...