celticlord
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Standing tall for the unalienable rights of men is not influencing. We need say nothing more than who we are as Americans, what our heritage is as a nation, and what principles we hold dear. Nothing in what need be said favors one side or the other, save that Khamenei's side blanches at the thought of free and unfettered elections.So the President should take political action, not on the best interest of the country but based on the emotions of the American people?
If you are for Obama taking a firmer stance in support of Mousavi are you willing to accept his decision when the repercussions and alienation occur when the protests stop, Ahmadinejad is accepted as the President, and Iran condemns the US for trying to influence their internal politics?
It took him a full week to say what any American President should be eager to say. Perhaps he did not forget it; perhaps someone forgot to load it into his teleprompter. What is certain is that it took him a week too long to say what should be said daily.Sounds like hyperbole to me. What leads you to the conclusion Obama forgot the rights of assembly and free speech? Has Obama condemned these things in someway?
As I have said for many days now, this is not a time to back any one Iranian candidate; this is not a time to say who did and did not win the election. This is and has been for several days a time to say loudly and often that elections matter, that rights matter, that freedoms matter. Dear Leader has said these things but once, and only upon compulsion by events. That is not leadership, and that is not building a bedrock of principle to deal with whatever government prevails in Iran.
I insult the President because his ineffectual presence in the Oval Office insults this country. He is a disgrace, a callow contemptible creature, and I treat him with the contempt that is his just due.Stop right there. If you cannot even bother to refer to the president without resorting to insults, you don't want a discussion. I could care less what you are saying when you can't bother to take the time to be decent. You just want to push your hyper-partisan rhetoric, which is fine, but don't expect any real conversation.
Standing tall for the unalienable rights of men is not influencing. We need say nothing more than who we are as Americans, what our heritage is as a nation, and what principles we hold dear. Nothing in what need be said favors one side or the other, save that Khamenei's side blanches at the thought of free and unfettered elections.
Standing tall for who we are is always in our best interests. It presents a principled face to the world, without being preachy. We need not say that all the world should follow our model, merely that we are witness to the virtues of government of the people, by the people, and for the people.
As for the condemnations....those came anyway. Khamenei will use that club as long as he can to retain power, without regard for truth. As he will say such things regardless of what we do, even if we do nothing at all, why should that stand against our speaking out?
Moderator's Warning: Triad, knock of the personal attacks or there will be further consequences.
If all Dear Leader has in his arsenal of communications is his teleprompter than he is indeed ill-fitted for the Oval Office.What exactly does the President repeating this add to the situation in Iran? How many times should he repeat it? Should there be a press conference once a week solely on the topic of freedom and elections?
The US stance on freedom, democracy, and elections, is clear and I think is a waste of time of Obama to verbally repeat.
I agree with pretty much the rest of your post. We just need to see how far the Iran people are will to take their uprising. They traded in the Shah monarch for a Theocratic monarch. Are they willing to rebel again for a true democracy?
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BBC NEWS | Middle East | West 'seeks Iran disintegration'
Ok Mr. Obama enough with the "non-meddling" BS rhetoric.
The People of the USA stand behind those in opposition to the "Theocratic Dictatorship of Iran." Also the USA needs to put in doubt "the talks" through language..
Ironically he needs to talk like he is to North Korea right now with Iran.
He needs to put aside his self infatuation.
This whole thing is way too big for Obama. This real-life stuff isn't what he bargained for.
This whole thing is way too big for Obama. This real-life stuff isn't what he bargained for.
Stop right there. If you cannot even bother to refer to the president without resorting to insults, you don't want a discussion. I could care less what you are saying when you can't bother to take the time to be decent. You just want to push your hyper-partisan rhetoric, which is fine, but don't expect any real conversation.
Dear Leader has only done exactly what he should if you are arguing he should stand to one side and let the world pass by. Were Dear Leader a good leader he would not be pushed along by these events, but would have from the beginning spoken from a bedrock of American principle.
When it takes a man a full week to remember that rights of assembly and free speech are American rights as well, are American virtues as well, and that the natural affinity of America is towards those who desire free speech and free assembly, that man is not doing what any President of the United States should be doing. That man is not leading.
Utter BS.
They troll I respond I get told to be nice.
WTF are you on?
Redress trolled and so blatantly that they had to act stupid.
Nobody is that Stupid.
I reported the troll posts..now I reported the mods post.
The US stance on freedom, democracy, and elections, is clear and I think is a waste of time of Obama to verbally repeat.
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