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West Mulls Response After Germany Says Nerve Agent Used To Poison Kremlin Critic Navalny

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West Mulls Response After Germany Says Nerve Agent Used To Poison Kremlin Critic Navalny

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9/3/20
Western governments are considering coordinated action against Russia after Germany said gravely ill Kremlin critic Aleksei Navalny was poisoned with a military-grade nerve agent. German Chancellor Angela Merkel said on September 2 that Germany notified its EU and NATO partners about the issue in order to decide on "an appropriate, joint reaction." "It is certain that Aleksei Navalny is the victim of a crime. He was meant to be silenced and I condemn this in the strongest possible terms, on behalf of the German government," Merkel said, calling it "attempted murder by poisoning." Earlier, the German government said special tests conducted at a German military laboratory showed "unequivocal evidence" of the presence of a chemical nerve agent from the Novichok group. The Soviet-style poison is suspected of being used in other attempts to silence outspoken Kremlin opponents. The latest in a long line of attacks on Kremlin critics sent tensions between Moscow and the West soaring, with Russia facing a chorus of condemnation and calls to conduct a transparent investigation. Merkel said there were now "some very serious questions that only Russia can and must answer."

The head of the German parliament's for Foreign Affairs Committee, Norbert Roettgen, called for Europe to take a clear, tough, and unified line on the issue. "Now we have again been brutally confronted with the inhuman reality of [Russian President Vladimir] Putin's regime," he told the ARD public broadcaster late on September 2. Asked whether work on the NordStream 2 project, an underwater Baltic Sea pipeline to bring natural gas from Russia to Germany, Roettgen, a member of Merkel's ruling conservatives, said, "There must be a European response." "We must pursue hard politics, we must respond with the only language Putin understands -- that is gas sales," he said. Last week, Merkel rejected the idea that the Navalny case should be linked to Nord Stream 2, which is opposed by the United States.

If German Chancellor Angela Merkel is serious about holding the Kremlin accountable, then cancel NordStream-2. That would send a clear and unambiguous message to Putin.

Unfortunately, I don't think Ms. Merkel is THAT serious.

Related: How the World Is Reacting to the News That Navalny Was Poisoned With Novichok
 
if Europe really wants to do something, replace natural gas with renewables. That would kick Russia square in the nuts.
 
if Europe really wants to do something, replace natural gas with renewables. That would kick Russia square in the nuts.

That would take some time, though. I'm not sure that announcing that some time in the future, Europe might not buy anymore natural gas from Russia would have much of an impact.
 
if Europe really wants to do something, replace natural gas with renewables. That would kick Russia square in the nuts.

Maybe, but it will really kick in the nuts the least well off in western societies who'll have to pay more for the energy that isn't provided by cheap Russian gas.


Russia can sell its gas elsewhere if Europe wants to increase its fuel poverty.
 
That would take some time, though. I'm not sure that announcing that some time in the future, Europe might not buy anymore natural gas from Russia would have much of an impact.

Let's find out.
 
Maybe, but it will really kick in the nuts the least well off in western societies who'll have to pay more for the energy that isn't provided by cheap Russian gas.


Russia can sell its gas elsewhere if Europe wants to increase its fuel poverty.

Cool. Let them sell it elsewhere, then.
 
Cool. Let them sell it elsewhere, then.

Russian gas/oil can only go where pipelines take it. They have no terminal port facilities for supertankers.
 
Russian gas/oil can only go where pipelines take it. They have no terminal port facilities for supertankers.

Then I guess that would be a TS situation for them.
 
Russian gas/oil can only go where pipelines take it. They have no terminal port facilities for supertankers.

We'll sell more to China and expand our Asian pipeline network.

Meanwhile, Europeans can pay more for American LNG.

Again. Who benefits? Certainly not poor European consumers.
 
We'll sell more to China and expand our Asian pipeline network.

Meanwhile, Europeans can pay more for American LNG.

Again. Who benefits? Certainly not poor European consumers.

There is a global oil glut. No one needs to buy Russian products these days.
 
It doesn't matter.

Yes, you are a Russian. People reading this thread should be aware of that.

You were gone for a while, but as soon as the Kremlin has a major international PR problem (Navalny), shazaam! you're back here pushing the Kremlin narrative.
 
Where is the evidence?

You demand Russia investigates but provide none of the evidence which would be crucial to the investigation. You have already decided the Kremlin is responsible and immediately discount anything which doesn't suit the narrative.This tells the world that you're lying.

It's clearly a fake news story cooked up by western forces determined to force Germany out of NS2 and into buying expensive US LNG.
 
In Venice, the famous American anthropologist David Graber, who was one of the leaders and ideologues of the Occupy Wall Street movement, died.
We demand explanations from the Italian and US authorities and a thorough and open investigation into the poisoning of an opposition politician!!!
 
Bulgarian arms dealer Emelyan Gebrev, who was allegedly poisoned by "novichok" in 2015, has been unable to get samples of his tests from a laboratory in Finland for a year and a half. Most likely, they have already been destroyed.
I'm sorry, but what were Navalny's tests compared to?
 
It's clearly a fake news story cooked up by western forces determined to force Germany out of NS2 and into buying expensive US LNG.

Navalny's illness originated in Russia. Russian doctors hospitalized Navalny. The Kremlin gave permission for Navalny to be airlifted to a Berlin hospital.

Fake news?

Do you realize how stupid that sounds to everyone? Or you just don't care?
 
Navalny's illness originated in Russia. Russian doctors hospitalized Navalny. The Kremlin gave permission for Navalny to be airlifted to a Berlin hospital.

Fake news?

Do you realize how stupid that sounds to everyone? Or you just don't care?



The fake news bit, and I know you are fully aware of this, is the 'Novichuk' story cooked up by NATO.
 
The fake news bit, and I know you are fully aware of this, is the 'Novichuk' story cooked up by NATO.

We'll see when the Germans produce the Novichok evidence.

You seem to forget Berlin wanted NS-2 as badly as Moscow.

The last thing they wanted was such Russian incompetence.
 
Get busy. I've caught up to you already.
 
We'll see when the Germans produce the Novichok evidence.

You seem to forget Berlin wanted NS-2 as badly as Moscow.

The last thing they wanted was such Russian incompetence.



Oh come on RV.


Your guys have been desperate to stop NS2. It's very clear that NATO (your international military wing) have taken over from civilian doctors and are running the show. And when I say 'show' , yes, it's exactly that. One of your most comedic shows too :lol:
 
Your guys have been desperate to stop NS2.

Germany, Finland, Denmark and Sweden have granted all the permits necessary for construction of the planned pipeline within their jurisdictions.

Germany and Denmark are NATO nations. Try again.
 
Germany, Finland, Denmark and Sweden have granted all the permits necessary for construction of the planned pipeline within their jurisdictions.

Germany and Denmark are NATO nations. Try again.


I said 'Your guys' - and you aren't German or Danish.
 
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