We Now Know Trump ‘Committed a Felony’ Fox News' Judge Napolitano

[Mach]

“We’ve learned that federal prosecutors here in New York City, not Bob Mueller and his team in Washington, D.C., career prosecutors here in New York City, have evidence that the president of the United States committed a felony by ordering and paying Michael Cohen to break the law,” the judicial analyst said. “How do we know that? They told that to a federal judge.”


“Under the rules, they can’t tell that to a federal judge unless they actually have that hardcore evidence,” he continued. “Under the rules, they can’t tell that to a federal judge unless they intend to do something with that evidence.”
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“The felony is paying Michael Cohen to commit a felony,” Napolitano concluded. “It’s pretty basic.”

Well. When Fox news lays it out like that. While I suspected that was the case, he seems certain that it's necessarily the case.

SDNY, you go left, House Dems take right, Mueller, you're with us straight down the middle?

So what's their plan, sealed indictment? Try to toll it? Word is even SDNY won't try to indict a sitting president, policy is policy.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/fox-news-judge-napolitano-we-now-know-trump-committed-a-felony

 

[Cardinal]

Well. When Fox news lays it out like that. While I suspected that was the case, he seems certain that it's necessarily the case.

SDNY, you go left, House Dems take right, Mueller, you're with us straight down the middle?

So what's their plan, sealed indictment? Try to toll it? Word is even SDNY won't try to indict a sitting president, policy is policy.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/fox-news-judge-napolitano-we-now-know-trump-committed-a-felony

Tolling it seems the most likely to happen, though technically speaking the DOJ could simply decide to reverse their policy and indict him anyway, though it certainly wouldn't result in Trump's arrest. But if I had to bet a crispy ten dollar bill on the former or the latter then I'm definitely putting it on the former.

 

[ecofarm]

Well. When Fox news lays it out like that. While I suspected that was the case, he seems certain that it's necessarily the case.

SDNY, you go left, House Dems take right, Mueller, you're with us straight down the middle?

So what's their plan, sealed indictment? Try to toll it? Word is even SDNY won't try to indict a sitting president, policy is policy.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/fox-news-judge-napolitano-we-now-know-trump-committed-a-felony

I think you should send the Dems left.

 

[Mach]

Tolling it seems the most likely to happen, though technically speaking the DOJ could simply decide to reverse their policy and indict him anyway, though it certainly wouldn't result in Trump's arrest. But if I had to bet a crispy ten dollar bill on the former or the latter then I'm definitely putting it on the former.

I haven't hard much about tolling, I've been missing news a lot. DOJ I suppose won't be doing that, it would look like they were out to get Trump. Which is true, but not for the reasons right-wingers would cry until the end of time about.

 

[sangha]

I haven't hard much about tolling, I've been missing news a lot. DOJ I suppose won't be doing that, it would look like they were out to get Trump. Which is true, but not for the reasons right-wingers would cry until the end of time about.

AFAIK, tolling is not something prosecutors do. It is the result of circumstance

 

[Mach]

AFAIK, tolling is not something prosecutors do. It is the result of circumstance

..reading. Apparently in a civil case it happens, but since it hasn't been applied to this sort of situation, with criminal charges, it seems like it's up in the air. Seems crazy to assume they can, get to that point, it's challenged, and be told they can't.

 

[sangha]

..reading. Apparently in a civil case it happens, but since it hasn't been applied to this sort of situation, with criminal charges, it seems like it's up in the air. Seems crazy to assume they can, get to that point, it's challenged, and be told they can't.

Tolling applies to criminal cases
https://www.nolo.com/legal-encyclopedia/question-tolling-statute-of-limitations-28325.html

 

[marke]

Well. When Fox news lays it out like that. While I suspected that was the case, he seems certain that it's necessarily the case.

SDNY, you go left, House Dems take right, Mueller, you're with us straight down the middle?

So what's their plan, sealed indictment? Try to toll it? Word is even SDNY won't try to indict a sitting president, policy is policy.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/fox-news-judge-napolitano-we-now-know-trump-committed-a-felony

No, Trump has not been convicted of a felony and if the dirty prosecutors and judges do try and convict him it will be only by an unjust kangaroo court. Trump can spend his own money like he chooses in spite of the vicious claims to the contrary.

 

[SonOfDaedalus]

Well. When Fox news lays it out like that. While I suspected that was the case, he seems certain that it's necessarily the case.

SDNY, you go left, House Dems take right, Mueller, you're with us straight down the middle?

So what's their plan, sealed indictment? Try to toll it? Word is even SDNY won't try to indict a sitting president, policy is policy.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/fox-news-judge-napolitano-we-now-know-trump-committed-a-felony

Wow, I'm surprised to hear this from FOX News.

And it's so simple even Trump cult members can understand.

If A pays B to commit a felony, it's the same as if A committed the felony himself. Our president is a felon.

But personally, I think his business with Russians while promoting Russian interests is far more troubling and a real danger to national security.

 

[SonOfDaedalus]

No, Trump has not been convicted of a felony and if the dirty prosecutors and judges do try and convict him it will be only by an unjust kangaroo court. Trump can spend his own money like he chooses in spite of the vicious claims to the contrary.

Well, that's what he should have done. He should have written the porn stars a check. But that's not what he did. He hired people to do it for him, create fake companies and fake names, etc etc. He had AMI buy a story to keep it quiet.

Do we really want to condone politicians paying people to keep quiet about things that may hurt their chances of being elected? Don't voters have a right to know and vote based on the truth? And aren't you concerned that a politician is then beholden to the people keeping his secrets?

 

[Deuce]

Oh god I hope Trump was watching at the time

 

[Mach]

Wow, I'm surprised to hear this from FOX News.
And it's so simple even Trump cult members can understand.
If A pays B to commit a felony, it's the same as if A committed the felony himself. Our president is a felon.

Yeah, the confidence and simplicity of Napolitano’s remark struck me too.

But personally, I think his business with Russians while promoting Russian interests is far more troubling and a real danger to national security.

I agree, and I certainly hope that ultimately overshadows this in terms of criminal liability for Trump. But as a matter of the rule of law, if he’s guilty of a felony, it’s necessary that justice be served. And if we can’t serve justice, I feel we should be outraged and use it as an opportunity to consider how this might be remedied in the future.

 

[Mach]

No, Trump has not been convicted of a felony and if the dirty prosecutors and judges do try and convict him it will be only by an unjust kangaroo court. Trump can spend his own money like he chooses in spite of the vicious claims to the contrary.

I can’t that seriously.

 

[ElChupacabra]

No, Trump has not been convicted of a felony and if the dirty prosecutors and judges do try and convict him it will be only by an unjust kangaroo court. Trump can spend his own money like he chooses in spite of the vicious claims to the contrary.

Interesting that you're calling prosecutors and judges "dirty" when it was Donald Trump who was committing adultery with porn stars and paying a lawyer to cover it up.

 

[Luckyone]

No, Trump has not been convicted of a felony and if the dirty prosecutors and judges do try and convict him it will be only by an unjust kangaroo court. Trump can spend his own money like he chooses in spite of the vicious claims to the contrary.

I guess facts just don't apply to you, do they?

Let's start with the simple truth that it has been proven without a shadow of a doubt that Trump is a liar and this is not a little white lie but a lie that breaks laws. But you keep on saying that it is a "kangaroo court", meaning that the courts and the prosecutors are not applying the law but simply showing a bias against Trump.

I wonder how you would react if it was you that was harmed and were trying to prove it in a court of law and the court did not apply the law but a bias against you?

Then again, you have certainly been one of the ones saying that Hillary should be in jail and there is a whole lot less proof of her crimes than proof of Trumps crimes.

God save your soul, because is certainly is evident that you need someone to save you from yourself.

 

[RAMOSS]

Interesting that you're calling prosecutors and judges "dirty" when it was Donald Trump who was committing adultery with porn stars and paying a lawyer to cover it up.

IN specifically, directing a lawyer to break campaign finance laws, a felony, to cover it up.

 

[Mach]

I love that the AMI release today backs Cohen’s story, and being explicit about it being to influence the election.
As Lawrence notes today that AMIs future cooperation on this matter is also pledged. Future cooperation? Only people left are Trumps.

 

[Common Sense 1]

Well. When Fox news lays it out like that. While I suspected that was the case, he seems certain that it's necessarily the case.

SDNY, you go left, House Dems take right, Mueller, you're with us straight down the middle?

So what's their plan, sealed indictment? Try to toll it? Word is even SDNY won't try to indict a sitting president, policy is policy.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/fox-news-judge-napolitano-we-now-know-trump-committed-a-felony

Funny..... you mean federal prosecutors have never bent the truth in court? What about all the lies told to the FISA court? And Michael Cohen would say most anything to keep his punk butt out of jail which did not work.
Trump will be president till 2020....

 

[Mach]

Funny..... you mean federal prosecutors have never bent the truth in court? What about all the lies told to the FISA court? And Michael Cohen would say most anything to keep his punk butt out of jail which did not work.
Trump will be president till 2020....

I can smell the desperation.

AMI cooperated too we found out today, they also back Cohens story. Possible more than one person at AMI. And AMI agreed to assist in future matters...what would those be? They have immunity and Cohen is in jail now. Which other party hasn’t faced the music?

 

[Deuce]

Funny..... you mean federal prosecutors have never bent the truth in court? What about all the lies told to the FISA court? And Michael Cohen would say most anything to keep his punk butt out of jail which did not work.
Trump will be president till 2020....

Do you have evidence they have coerced false confession?

 

[JoanDavis]

Well. When Fox news lays it out like that. While I suspected that was the case, he seems certain that it's necessarily the case.

SDNY, you go left, House Dems take right, Mueller, you're with us straight down the middle?

So what's their plan, sealed indictment? Try to toll it? Word is even SDNY won't try to indict a sitting president, policy is policy.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/fox-news-judge-napolitano-we-now-know-trump-committed-a-felony

WOW! When a far right conservative republican Judge like Napolitano says this, I don't know how anyone can still deny trump didn't break the law.

But I am sure the other Faux News trumpsters will still defend and support trump.

And the republican party continues to turn a blind eye to all of this.

What trump and the republicans have done to America will never be forgiven or forgotten.

We liberals might have hated other republican presidents , but at least they acted like presidents, and not like spoilt babies who didn't get their rattle.

 

[OscarLevant]

Well. When Fox news lays it out like that. While I suspected that was the case, he seems certain that it's necessarily the case.

SDNY, you go left, House Dems take right, Mueller, you're with us straight down the middle?

So what's their plan, sealed indictment? Try to toll it? Word is even SDNY won't try to indict a sitting president, policy is policy.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/fox-news-judge-napolitano-we-now-know-trump-committed-a-felony

The clip

 

[Checkerboard Strangler]

Well, that's what he should have done. He should have written the porn stars a check. But that's not what he did. He hired people to do it for him, create fake companies and fake names, etc etc. He had AMI buy a story to keep it quiet.

Do we really want to condone politicians paying people to keep quiet about things that may hurt their chances of being elected? Don't voters have a right to know and vote based on the truth? And aren't you concerned that a politician is then beholden to the people keeping his secrets?

A guy called in to the Dan Abrams Show this morning, arguing that the whole thing really was, in his opinion, a private matter and that Trump wasn't trying to protect his campaign at all, he simple did not want Melania to find out.

I realize that Melania isn't a genius, but exactly how stupid does this guy think she is?
Every woman that has ever been with Trump is keenly aware of his innumerable illicit liasons with cheerleaders, models, celebrities, hookers and porn stars. There is NO WAY ON EARTH that Melania isn't, or wasn't, completely aware of the fact that The Donald was boinking whoever he pleased on the side.

 

[marke]

Well, that's what he should have done. He should have written the porn stars a check. But that's not what he did. He hired people to do it for him, create fake companies and fake names, etc etc. He had AMI buy a story to keep it quiet.

Do we really want to condone politicians paying people to keep quiet about things that may hurt their chances of being elected? Don't voters have a right to know and vote based on the truth? And aren't you concerned that a politician is then beholden to the people keeping his secrets?

The leftist liberals assume a lot of evil about Trump which has not been verified and yet refuse to believe a lot of evil about democrats which has been verified.

Democrats are not about truth and righteousness in judgment and justice but are about promoting the evil democrat party, its evil proponents and ungodly agenda.

 

[marke]

Interesting that you're calling prosecutors and judges "dirty" when it was Donald Trump who was committing adultery with porn stars and paying a lawyer to cover it up.

The FBI framed 4 innocent men for murder with full knowledge of J. Edgar Hoover. Three of the innocent men were sentenced to death and the fourth to life in prison. Mueller helped hide the truth and documents from Congress years later. That made him complicit in the crime. More politicians, lawyers, prosecutors, judges and the like are more guilty of serious criminal offences than most people realize.