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We Need To Speak Honestly About The GOP's Evolution Into A Conspiracy Cult

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One of the challenges in analyzing modern American politics is accurately describing the Republican Party without seeming unserious and hyperbolic. Unfortunately, the modern Republican Party’s abdication of seriousness, good faith and reality-based communications or policy-making has stretched even the most open-minded analyst’s capacity for forced balance. But there comes a tipping point at which it becomes too dangerous to keep up the pretense. Most people left of center would argue (rightly, I believe) that we hit that point long, long ago and the time to re-evaluate journalistic norms and practices should have been decades earlier when the GOP was busy covering up the Iran Contra scandal and promoting the Laffer Curve as serious public policy.

We Need to Speak Honestly About the GOP’s Evolution Into a Conspiracy Cult | Washington Monthly
 

They need to change the name of their Party, problem solved. Leave the Republican Party to actual Conservatives.
 



I think what you're seeing is a huge influx of poor whites into the republican party. Poor whites used to be democrats.

Poor whites are very susceptible to conspiracies because of their lack of education.
 

swing_voter said:
I think what you're seeing is a huge influx of poor whites into the republican party. Poor whites used to be democrats.

Poor whites are very susceptible to conspiracies because of their lack of education.
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You realize yours is a conspiracy theory, swing_voter? I guess the dem party which hates Trump is the king of conspirators against Trump...Russian collusion with the Trump campaign over the 2016 election. The Russian influence of the US election of 2016 is, itself, a conspiracy theory. The phone call with Zelensky. Need I go on? Me thinks the wrong party was correctly labeled the conspiracy party.
 
What we really need is good furniture. This affection for Asian stinkwood crap - lightweight garbage made of afore-mentioned stinkwood, or worse - pressed dog turds and sea weed - must end.
 
Casper said:
They need to change the name of their Party, problem solved. Leave the Republican Party to actual Conservatives.
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You don't seem to understand the purpose of the Republican Party. It is a political instrument for the plutocratic corpotocracy to control the country's political system, using its voters as deluded pawns to take that power, nothing more. Romanticized talk of 'conservative principles' has essentially nothing to do with its purpose, only its con. It's like how they say "the great state of" in front of every state. Empty words.
 

You will get no argument from me on any of that.
 

Multiple multi billion dollar industries in america use the same tools the Russians used to sway voters in 2016.

So either it's techniques known to work or American businesses spend billions of dollars year after year on snake oil.

Which do you think it is? Nonsense? Or something folks go to college to learn how to do?
 
We Need To Speak Honestly About The GOP's Evolution Into A Conspiracy Cult
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we need to vote against every one of them from dog catcher to president, and we need to do it in every election for a generation. the Republican party is no longer redeemable, and it has to be replaced with something sane. that's going to be difficult for them to do, but they can only be forced into figuring that out by loss after loss after loss. whatever replaces the current Republican party also needs to issue a formal apology for the Tweety thing.
 

Democrats claiming Conservatives are a conspiracy cult is laughable. Talk about projection.


All Trump loans are signed by Russian Oligarhs
Kavanaugh is an alcoholic high schools serial rapist
Illegal immigrants are drinking from toilets
Trump is a Russian asset and we have conclusive evidence to prove it
Trump will start a nuclear war with North Korea
Trump will start a war with Iran
We have video of Russian hookers peeing on Trump
We have Trumps tax returns
Trump owes Russia billions of dollars
The Covington Catholic kids are racist
Trump is going to invade Mexico
Trump cut funding to the CDC
The Mueller report will remove Trump
The Emoluments clause will remove Trump
The Ukraine phone call will remove Trump
Trump will be removed for campaign violations
Trump had early access to Wikileaks documents
17 Intelligence agencies confirmed Russia helped Trump
Trump removed the MLK bust from the WH
Trump carelessly overfed fish in a koi pond
Director Anthony Scaramucci had ties to Russia
Trump will get rid of Meals on Wheels
Trump laundered Russian money through real estate deals
The Russians laundered money through the NRA for the Trump campaign
Secretary Steve Mnuchin had foreclosed on a 90-year-old woman for due to a 27-cent payment
Trump removed climate change and LGBT from the White House website
Trump issued a "gag order" on the EPA and other agencies
Trump's voter fraud expert was registered to vote in three states
Melania Trump and son Barron might never move to the White House
Trump renamed black history month
intelligence officials were keeping information from Trump to make sure it wouldn't be compromised
Trump said to inject your lungs with Lysol
 

I find it problematic that I have to help people with correcting errors.

Let's see now... :think:

"One of the challenges in analyzing modern American politics is accurately describing the Democrat Party without seeming unserious and hyperbolic. Unfortunately, the modern Democrat Party’s abdication of seriousness, good faith and reality-based communications or policy-making has stretched even the most open-minded analyst’s capacity for forced balance. But there comes a tipping point at which it becomes too dangerous to keep up the pretense. Most people right (or left) of center would argue (rightly, I believe) that we hit that point long, long ago and the time to re-evaluate journalistic norms and practices should have been decades earlier when the Democrat Party was busy covering up the Fast and Furious scandal and promoting Open Borders as serious public policy."

There, I fixed it for you. You're welcome.

In all seriousness though, such threads and their sources are just commentary and opinion. It isn't honesty, or truth, but rather a political position couched in hasty generalizations.

We are all guilty of this from time to time, but IMO we should at least try to recognize this penchant for hyperbolic partisanship and tone it down. Otherwise we find we are merely preaching to the choir, but not reaching those minds we are actually seeking to convince.
 
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This. Exactly this.
 
most leftist have no clue about the words they use.
the only conspiracy was on the part of the dnc and clinton and obama administrations to try and sink the trump administration.

trump exposed them and all their corruption and leftists on here can't stand it.

this is just par for the course with these clowns.
 

have you noticed that all leftist arguments are nothing more than one logical fallacy after another?

seriously it is all they can do. it is quite sad actually. all they can do is project themselves onto other people.

they have 0 facts or evidence to support their claims just dishonest hackery.
 
The Republican Party began its decent with the political polarization and partisanship of Newt Gingrich.

Suffered mortal wounds with the Tea Party and its abandonment of being the party of 'rule of law' and 'family values'.

The metamorphosis is now permanent with the Party of Trump.

A corporatocracy government that has no qualms about ceding all meaningful power to a Barr-type unitary executive without constraint or oversight.
 
nota bene said:
This. Exactly this.
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you can't educate closed minded people. they don't want to be educated but confirmed in their false belief.

all their claims of open minded and tolerant and inclusiveness is just words they do not understand and have in clue what they mean.

this is easily demonstrated by their constant ramblings after they have been proven wrong.
 

I don't disagree, but the point here (at least for me) is the childish hyperpartisan rhetorical flights of fancy that discourage rational debate.
 

If you want to discuss the Democrat Party and Liberals you know how to start a thread. The topic here is Conservatives and the GOP.
 
Casper said:
If you want to discuss the Democrat Party and Liberals you know how to start a thread. The topic here is Conservatives and the GOP.
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The GOP has no more devolved into a "Cult" than has the Democrat Party, which was the point of my reply. Hence the "correction" of the OP statement.

Oh, forgive me for "disrupting" another echo chamber of hyperbolic "this (insert target here) is Baaad" with a rational and to the point response.

Carry on. :coffeepap:
 
Casper said:
You will get no argument from me on any of that.
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Yup. You just seemed to still have higher expectations, buying into the idea that things like "principle" are relevant to them. That's what they want people to think, buying them undeserved credibility, like a mob family saying they're a 'community and family based social organization'.
 
Captain Adverse said:
The GOP has no more devolved into a "Cult" than has the Democrat Party, which was the point of my reply.
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Fish are no more creatures of the water than mammals. Haven't you ever seen a dog swim?
 

This is one of my biggest problems with the mainstream media -- they have carried water for Trump for far too long.

The media has tried their best to "normalize" Trump and treat him like any other President, especially those dumb asses at CNN. They've also tried to give this dumb **** Trump the benefit of the doubt, no matter what.

The media should have been speaking the truth about Trump during his entire presidency -- that 99% of the garbage that comes out of Trump's mouth is pure idiocy, lies, and unintelligible gibberish. Anytime Trump somehow manages to string two coherent sentences together on a 5th grade level, the mainstream media applauds this ****ing imbecile, for not being a total embarrassment as President for 20 whole seconds.

The media has tried way too hard to be "fair" to Trump, holding this deranged idiot ****tard to a ridiculously low bar.
 

If You Say So...

Will do
 
Don't let reality crash your party. LOL

Tradition continues; Obsessive broadcast coverage of Trump still 93% negative - Washington Times

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I don't think that's what's happening here. The folks in this thread are on to something: "Based on the information I've gotten, the GOP is clearly an evil conspiracy cult."

They're recognizing the absurdity of the messaging they've been receiving; they just can't yet bring themselves to face the real truth: The real culprit is the narratives they've been fed.

This thread is them banging their skulls against the inside of their own media bubble.
 
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