Washington Postal Workers Defy USPS Orders And Reinstall Mail Sorting Machines

[roguenuke]

Bingo, we have a winner, thank you mam.

“ , and connectivity of various pieces of equipment. There are various reasons for why they do things.”

And the “numbers” for that machine is the major reason it might be pulled offline. Sitting unused for months is a major reason.

And Politics ain’t one of those reasons.

USPS ET, I know USPS machines, expert level!

And put back online. You keep talking about only them being taken offline but seem to miss the fact that these were put back online after all were taken offline.

You have no evidence all these sorting machines were taken offline because they hurt sorting numbers.

Here’s why the Postal Service wanted to remove hundreds of mail sorting machines - Anchorage Daily News

They arent being removed to increase sorting time of that type of mail. They are normally removed for cost saving overall, consolidation, and reduction of maintenance costs, making room. You dont know what volume of mail those sites see, or type, unless you work there, in those specific sites.

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[snakestretcher]

i can imagine expecting a flood of incoming work and then management starts removing machines for generic cost cutting reasons. that would be extremely frustrating even if it wasn't because some spray painted person wanted it to happen.

Yes, I heard the fatuous 'cost cutting' excuse. The simple fact is that those machines were installed as a cost cutting measure in the first place, just like every machine which replaces humans and their wages.

 

[poweRob]

Grandpa, tell me again about what it was like in 2004?

You do realize that the USPS still uses all the sorting machines it needs to, right?

More proof you don't know what you're talking about. If that were true then there wouldn't be PO's defying Post Master General orders to reassemble ad use them and there wouldn't be dead chicks and rotting meat and backed up parcels in distribution centers... which remarkably, only started to be a problem when this Post master started ripping apart sorting machines among other delay policies.

They just didn't need the same number they needed 15 years ago?

Like I said, stick to something you do know... because this topic ain't it and inserting republican talking points as your argument will only keep proving it.

 

[Metric Mouse]

More proof you don't know what you're talking about. If that were true then there wouldn't be PO's defying Post Master General orders to reassemble ad use them and there wouldn't be dead chicks and rotting meat and backed up parcels in distribution centers... which remarkably, only started to be a problem when this Post master started ripping apart sorting machines among other delay policies.



Like I said, stick to something you do know... because this topic ain't it and inserting republican talking points as your argument will only keep proving it.

Imagine running chickens through these flat sorters! What a mess that would be!

 

[TU Curmudgeon]

More proof you don't know what you're talking about. If that were true then there wouldn't be PO's defying Post Master General orders to reassemble ad use them and there wouldn't be dead chicks and rotting meat and backed up parcels in distribution centers... which remarkably, only started to be a problem when this Post master started ripping apart sorting machines among other delay policies.



Like I said, stick to something you do know... because this topic ain't it and inserting republican talking points as your argument will only keep proving it.

The USPS has announced that it cannot guarantee delivery of first class mail in less than 20 days.

Canada Post/Postes Canada advertises that it delivers first class mail in under 5 days to all parts of the country.

Of course, Canada is much smaller than the US so that must mean that the USPS is actually doing a better job than Canada Post/Postes Canada (which is only to be expected when you consider that Canada Post/Postes Canada is a state owned monopoly run by a bunch of socialist monarchists).

Right?

 

[TU Curmudgeon]

Imagine running chickens through these flat sorters! What a mess that would be!

There is only one proper way to "deliver chickens"

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[Metric Mouse]

The USPS has announced that it cannot guarantee delivery of first class mail in less than 20 days.

Canada Post/Postes Canada advertises that it delivers first class mail in under 5 days to all parts of the country.

Of course, Canada is much smaller than the US so that must mean that the USPS is actually doing a better job than Canada Post/Postes Canada (which is only to be expected when you consider that Canada Post/Postes Canada is a state owned monopoly run by a bunch of socialist monarchists).

Right?

To be fair, Halifax to Vancouver is only 1/2 the distance of New York to Hawaii, even ignoring that pesky ocean one has to cross, and a letter in Canada costs approximately 43% more to mail than a letter in the United States.

Can help explain some of the difference in postal time guarantees.

 

[Metric Mouse]

There is only one proper way to "deliver chickens"

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If Dejoy dismantles any of these machines, there will be riots.

 

[poweRob]

Imagine running chickens through these flat sorters! What a mess that would be!

Troll more.

 

[TU Curmudgeon]

To be fair, Halifax to Vancouver is only 1/2 the distance of New York to Hawaii, even ignoring that pesky ocean one has to cross, and a letter in Canada costs approximately 43% more to mail than a letter in the United States.

Can help explain some of the difference in postal time guarantees.

The US postal rate is CDN$0.7225 (first class letter mail), the Canadian postal rate is CDN$0.90 (first class letter mail). That's a difference of 24.57% which is NOT (unless you are a graduate of the BS [Statistics] program at The University of Numerology]) "approximately 43%.

The distance from Halifax NS to Victoria BC is 2,780 mi, the distance from New York NY to Honolulu HI is 4,913 mi.. That's a difference of 76.73%.

5 x 1.2457 x 1.7673 = 11.00762805

11.00762805 is 55.04% of 20.

"Can help explain some of the difference in postal time guarantees."? Second and ten.

 

[TU Curmudgeon]

If Dejoy dismantles any of these machines, there will be riots.

And quite rightly so. The machines do NOT belong to the USPS or the US government.

 

[Metric Mouse]

Troll more.

Good luck using a DBCS to get your chickens out faster. You are not quite up to snuff on this topic, as has been pointed out to you by multiple posters.

 

[poweRob]

Good luck using a DBCS to get your chickens out faster. You are not quite up to snuff on this topic, as has been pointed out to you by multiple posters.

The sorters free up the time to do the parcels. But you knew that and would rather troll the topic you don't understand than be honest about anything.

This is really embarrassing for you.

 

[Metric Mouse]

The US postal rate is CDN$0.7225 (first class letter mail), the Canadian postal rate is CDN$0.90 (first class letter mail). That's a difference of 24.57% which is NOT (unless you are a graduate of the BS [Statistics] program at The University of Numerology]) "approximately 43%.

The distance from Halifax NS to Victoria BC is 2,780 mi, the distance from New York NY to Honolulu HI is 4,913 mi.. That's a difference of 76.73%.

5 x 1.2457 x 1.7673 = 11.00762805

11.00762805 is 55.04% of 20.

"Can help explain some of the difference in postal time guarantees."? Second and ten.

I was using the listed postal rate of CDN 1.07, which is apparently the cost of a single first class stamp, which can be purchased for CDN .92 when bought in bulk.

Find out the price of stamps | Personal | Canada Post

Makes it a little harder to compare, but either way, before factoring in the fact that U.s. mail could easily have to cross the ocean, a factor Canadian mail does not have to contend with, we've explained over half the difference in mail times. Pretty good start.

 

[Metric Mouse]

The sorters free up the time to do the parcels. But you knew that and would rather troll the topic you don't understand than be honest about anything.

This is really embarrassing for you.

You have been righted by several posters more knowledgeable than yourself. It's why I have listened to their explanations and now agree with them. Your outdated knowledge, from an aspect of postal delivery and sorting you didn't actually experience, from 2004 or whatever, doesn't explain the current situation. The election will be fine. USPS is up to the task.

 

[TU Curmudgeon]

I was using the listed postal rate of CDN 1.07, which is apparently the cost of a single first class stamp, which can be purchased for CDN .92 when bought in bulk.

Find out the price of stamps | Personal | Canada Post

Makes it a little harder to compare, but either way, before factoring in the fact that U.s. mail could easily have to cross the ocean, a factor Canadian mail does not have to contend with, we've explained over half the difference in mail times. Pretty good start.

OK, I'll go with CDN$0.92 for Canadian and CDN$0.7225 for American. That changes the time equation to

5 x 1.2734 x 1.7673 = 11.2524

which is 56.26% of 20 and the first calculation was a massive 2.22% too low.

"Can help explain some of the difference in postal time guarantees."? Third and ten. (In Canada that means that you have no more tries and it's time to punt. However, you are playing by the much (~33%) easier American rules, so you get another shot at gaining ground without having to surrender possession.)

PS - You don't suppose that the remaining 43.44 of the time difference could be due to something as completely unlikely as "better at their job" do you? Nah, <SARC>[evrewunknoz that Americans are much better at their jobs than anyone else in the world (especially a bunch of loonie socialist monarchists who don't even live in a republic) as is completely demonstrated by the fact that the US rates at 100% /100% / 100% and Canada only rates at 43.676% / 33.194% / 20.269% as shown in this table

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That's a total rating of 300% for the US and a mere 100.139% for Canada, thus proving that the US is doing 2.99583 times better than Canada is doing - right</SARC>[?

 

[poweRob]

You have been righted by several posters more knowledgeable than yourself. It's why I have listened to their explanations and now agree with them. Your outdated knowledge, from an aspect of postal delivery and sorting you didn't actually experience, from 2004 or whatever, doesn't explain the current situation. The election will be fine. USPS is up to the task.

You lie so horribly.

1. No one "corrected" me
2. I never said anytihng about 2004. You fabricated that date, twice now as a lying troll techinique
3. You are too ignorant of the topic to stop embarrassing yourself :lol:

 

[Metric Mouse]

You lie so horribly.

1. No one "corrected" me
2. I never said anytihng about 2004. You fabricated that date, twice now as a lying troll techinique
3. You are too ignorant of the topic to stop embarrassing yourself :lol:

I figured you'd run out of rebuttals and forgo giving evidence of your arguments, but I didn't think it would happen so fast.

The USPS no longer uses or maintains as many mail wagons as they did in 1890. Just as they don't need to keep and maintain as many DBCS machines as they did in 2006. Conservatives railed against both, but the USPS does pretty well.

 

[Metric Mouse]

OK, I'll go with CDN$0.92 for Canadian and CDN$0.7225 for American. That changes the time equation to

5 x 1.2734 x 1.7673 = 11.2524

which is 56.26% of 20 and the first calculation was a massive 2.22% too low.

"Can help explain some of the difference in postal time guarantees."? Third and ten. (In Canada that means that you have no more tries and it's time to punt. However, you are playing by the much (~33%) easier American rules, so you get another shot at gaining ground without having to surrender possession.)

PS - You don't suppose that the remaining 43.44 of the time difference could be due to something as completely unlikely as "better at their job" do you? Nah, <SARC>[evrewunknoz that Americans are much better at their jobs than anyone else in the world (especially a bunch of loonie socialist monarchists who don't even live in a republic) as is completely demonstrated by the fact that the US rates at 100% /100% / 100% and Canada only rates at 43.676% / 33.194% / 20.269% as shown in this table

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That's a total rating of 300% for the US and a mere 100.139% for Canada, thus proving that the US is doing 2.99583 times better than Canada is doing - right</SARC>[?

Yep, halfway there with two easy explanations. Pretty easy. Good times.

 

[TomFitz]

You have been righted by several posters more knowledgeable than yourself. It's why I have listened to their explanations and now agree with them. Your outdated knowledge, from an aspect of postal delivery and sorting you didn't actually experience, from 2004 or whatever, doesn't explain the current situation. The election will be fine. USPS is up to the task.

Not if the Trump Administration can help it. It has done a thorough job of sowing confusion amongst the public. And DeJoy has done almost as thorough a job creating havoc in the Post Office as Paul Bremer did in Iraq.

And afterwards, no one would say who gave those orders either. “What, who me?”. The line every Trump operative has.

 

[Aberro]

The sorters free up the time to do the parcels. But you knew that and would rather troll the topic you don't understand than be honest about anything.

This is really embarrassing for you.

Parcels are done on an APBS, nothing to do with a DBCS, in my location, APBS is in a different building.
APBS operators do not operate DBCS,s here.

You are embarrassing yourself.

APBS = Automated PARCEL and bundle sorter.

(Used to be called a Small Parcel and Bundle Sorter.) rated at under 25 lb packages.

 

[Luce]

And when any votes that pass though those machines are discarded, or in some other way affected because of the use of those machines. They only have themselves to blame for this.

So how would that work?

 

[The AntiDonald]

Unless you can show me how the republicans are actively destroying the country. There's only one that's apparently working to burn most of it down.

Yes, but all the quiet ones are complicit and therefor guilty of the same thing. Republicans on the hill are the only people that can or could have stopped him. They have done nothing. So much for honoring the oath of office they took.

Look at the entire republican convention. It is one continuous criminal act in real time. The Hatch Act is a federal statute. It has been abandoned by the republicans. I sure hope someone is keeping track.

 

[The AntiDonald]

Then wouldn’t be more efficient to keep those mail sorting machines on hand to handle the large amounts of mail-in ballots this year?

Agreed 100%. The PG want's you to believe it's all been in the making for years. Awful interesting that it just started happening when DeJoy took over. Almost exactly to the day.

Leave the FU**ING machines and overtime alone until after the election. I heard Kevin Brady on the news this morning saying that the mail slowdowns are all a lie, a hoax. Except an internal USPS report showed slowdown in service as much as 10% starting just after DeJoy took over.

One last point. Last Friday, DeJoy swore under oath to the senate he had never discussed anything with the Trump campaign. However on Monday, a clever 'democrat' on the house committee got him to admit that he had been speaking to the Trump campaign. Sure sounds to me like he gave false statements at the senate hearing.

 

[TU Curmudgeon]

I figured you'd run out of rebuttals and forgo giving evidence of your arguments, but I didn't think it would happen so fast.

The USPS no longer uses or maintains as many mail wagons as they did in 1890. Just as they don't need to keep and maintain as many DBCS machines as they did in 2006. Conservatives railed against both, but the USPS does pretty well.

Did you know that, prior to the 1960s, there were areas of the United States of America where the USPS delivered mail TWICE per day?