Washington Post: Venezuela should be rich. Instead it’s becoming a failed state.

[LowDown]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2016/05/04/venezuela-is-becoming-a-failed-state/

They have the largest petroleum reserves in the world, but they can't even afford imported paper and ink to print money.

Venezuela, in other words, is well past the point of worrying that its economy might collapse. It already has. That's the only way to describe an economy that the International Monetary Fund thinks is going to shrink 8 percent and have 720 percent inflation this year. And that's not even the worst of it. No, that's the fact that the state itself is near collapse. Venezuela already has the world's second-highest murder rate, and now the Chavista regime seems to be threatening violence of its own if the opposition succeeds in recalling President Nicolás Maduro. It's a grim race between anarchy and civil war.

Apparently, the government can still afford to import bullets.

Years and years ago I told anyone who would listen that this was going to happen in Venezuela. It was crystal clear when one listened to Hugo Chavez's rhetoric.

The Washington Post thinks that the Venezuelan government is on the brink of collapse outright. The sooner the pain of that is over the better.

 

[Carjosse]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2016/05/04/venezuela-is-becoming-a-failed-state/

They have the largest petroleum reserves in the world, but they can't even afford imported paper and ink to print money.



Apparently, the government can still afford to import bullets.

Years and years ago I told anyone who would listen that this was going to happen in Venezuela. It was crystal clear when one listened to Hugo Chavez's rhetoric.

The Washington Post thinks that the Venezuelan government is on the brink of collapse outright. The sooner the pain of that is over the better.

Well apparently they are having a recall election for president so it looks like Maduro will fall and be replaced with Caprilles.

 

[joG]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2016/05/04/venezuela-is-becoming-a-failed-state/

They have the largest petroleum reserves in the world, but they can't even afford imported paper and ink to print money.



Apparently, the government can still afford to import bullets.

Years and years ago I told anyone who would listen that this was going to happen in Venezuela. It was crystal clear when one listened to Hugo Chavez's rhetoric.

The Washington Post thinks that the Venezuelan government is on the brink of collapse outright. The sooner the pain of that is over the better.

Chavez was a warning to people that would vote for socialists like Sanders, which quite a few seem to have missed.

 

[poweRob]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2016/05/04/venezuela-is-becoming-a-failed-state/

They have the largest petroleum reserves in the world, but they can't even afford imported paper and ink to print money.



Apparently, the government can still afford to import bullets.

Years and years ago I told anyone who would listen that this was going to happen in Venezuela. It was crystal clear when one listened to Hugo Chavez's rhetoric.

The Washington Post thinks that the Venezuelan government is on the brink of collapse outright. The sooner the pain of that is over the better.

Corruption at the top. Brazil is starting to feel the same pinch. Heard on the radio the other day 60% of their parliament is under investigation for corruption. Mostly taking kick-backs for contracts.

 

[poweRob]

Chavez was a warning to people that would vote for socialists like Sanders, which quite a few seem to have missed.

Yeah, no. The tie you are trying to make isn't even tenuous. It's flat out non-existent.

 

[Grim17]

Yeah, no. The tie you are trying to make isn't even tenuous. It's flat out non-existent.

The point is, that turning toward socialism will take the country down a road that will ultimately lead to disaster. History has shown this time and time again.

 

[poweRob]

The point is, that turning toward socialism will take the country down a road that will ultimately lead to disaster. History has shown this time and time again.

Nah... the point is hyperbole's are really stupid.

 

[Fenton]

Corruption at the top. Brazil is starting to feel the same pinch. Heard on the radio the other day 60% of their parliament is under investigation for corruption. Mostly taking kick-backs for contracts.

Socialism and corruption go hand and hand.

 

[poweRob]

Socialism and corruption go hand and hand.

cool story bro!

 

[Grim17]

Socialism and corruption go hand and hand.

It goes right back to the lack of understanding of human nature that supporters of socialism suffer from.

 

[poweRob]

It goes right back to the lack of understanding of human nature that supporters of socialism suffer from.

:lol:

Well you support the opposite which means you support hitler.

Like I said, non-thinking hyperbolic idiocy is just plain stupid.

 

[LowDown]

Yeah, no. The tie you are trying to make isn't even tenuous. It's flat out non-existent.

Sanders would run up the federal debt trying to give everyone free stuff from the get go. Same program as Chavez. The only thing we'd be missing is printing all the funny money to remain solvent. Oops, we're already doing that.

If the implacable hostility Bernie has for corporations doesn't result in their nationalization then I don't know why he even bothers to talk about it. And, of course, nationalized corporations will immediately be run into the ground a la Chavez. Same program, same results, Venezuela redux.

 

[Fenton]

cool story bro!

Its the truth. Corruption and Socialism go hand and hand

Waste, mismanagment and Socialism go hand in hand too

 

[shagg]

The point is, that turning toward socialism will take the country down a road that will ultimately lead to disaster. History has shown this time and time again.

The point is, that turning toward a dictatorship will take the country down a road that will ultimately lead to disaster. History has shown this time and time again.

 

[shagg]

Socialism and corruption go hand and hand.

Dictatorships and corruption go hand and hand.

 

[shagg]

It goes right back to the lack of understanding of human nature that supporters of socialism suffer from.

It goes right back to the lack of understanding of human nature that supporters of dictators suffer from.

 

[Carjosse]

The point is, that turning toward a dictatorship will take the country down a road that will ultimately lead to disaster. History has shown this time and time again.

Venezuela is not a dictatorship, it is a perfectly functioning democracy, in fact they are going to have a recall election and the opposition is expected to win especially after their landslide victory in the parliamentary elections.

 

[Fenton]

It goes right back to the lack of understanding of human nature that supporters of dictators suffer from.

Good to know people like Sean Penn and Bernie Sanders supports dictatorships then.

 

[joG]

Yeah, no. The tie you are trying to make isn't even tenuous. It's flat out non-existent.

Which tie?

 

[poweRob]

Yeah, no. The tie you are trying to make isn't even tenuous. It's flat out non-existent.

Sanders would run up the federal debt trying to give everyone free stuff from the get go. Same program as Chavez. The only thing we'd be missing is printing all the funny money to remain solvent. Oops, we're already doing that.

If the implacable hostility Bernie has for corporations doesn't result in their nationalization then I don't know why he even bothers to talk about it. And, of course, nationalized corporations will immediately be run into the ground a la Chavez. Same program, same results, Venezuela redux.

Except all of what you just said is made up bull****. Nice try though.

 

[poweRob]

Its the truth. Corruption and Socialism go hand and hand

Waste, mismanagment and Socialism go hand in hand too

Oh... Well since Fenton says it's true then okay... That changes everything.

 

[LowDown]

Except all of what you just said is made up bull****. Nice try though.

We'll put this mark down as the day you said Sanders wouldn't try to nationalize industry.

You have heard of quantitative easing, right?

The only really useful function a strong government has is to serve as a source of graft and corruption. Socialist leaders all know this, or they sure as Hell appear to know it.

 

[NoLeftNoRight]

:lol:
Well you support the opposite which means you support hitler.


Like I said, non-thinking hyperbolic idiocy is just plain stupid.

Ummm...yeah you were saying ......

 

[poweRob]

We'll put this mark down as the day you said Sanders wouldn't try to nationalize industry.

You have heard of quantitative easing, right?

The only really useful function a strong government has is to serve as a source of graft and corruption. Socialist leaders all know this, or they sure as Hell appear to know it.

"We'll"

You an industry on your own now? Lol

We'll put this tripe of yours down as you wanting America to be weak.

 

[shagg]

Venezuela is not a dictatorship, it is a perfectly functioning democracy, in fact they are going to have a recall election and the opposition is expected to win especially after their landslide victory in the parliamentary elections.

Its a dictatorship under a thin veil of democracy.

Corruption in Venezuela

The government in place following the Bolivarian Revolution has been frequently accused of corruption, abuse of the economy for personal gain, spreading "Bolivarian propaganda", buying the loyalty of the military, officials involved in drug trade, assisting terrorists, intimidation of the media, and human rights abuses of its citizens.[19][20][21][22][23][24][25][26][27][28] According to Foreign Policy, Venezuela's corruption helped Hugo Chávez gain power and worsened under the Bolivarian government.[29] Though the Bolivarian government states that they have implemented strict guidelines and laws to deter corruption, enforcement of such anti-corruption laws had been weak following the centralizing powers in the government, creating less accountability for corruption and making it prevalent throughout Venezuela.[1]

Certainly closer to a dictatorship than a democracy.

Venezuelan Democracy

Chavez was elected president of Venezuela in December 1998 on the strength of three main promises: convening a Constituent Assembly to write a new constitution and improve the state, fighting poverty and social exclusion, and eliminating corruption. Nine years later, it has become evident that the Constituent Assembly primarily was a vehicle to destroy all existing political institutions and replace them with a bureaucracy beholden to his wishes. Poverty and social exclusion remain as prominent as before, while the levels of government corruption are higher than ever.

Chavez managed to appear magnanimous in defeat, but he is not a democrat, and he will keep trying to become president for life in any way he can.

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