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Regicollis;1058691897]Or proving that Obama is as wrong as Bush.
I get it. You think I'm stupid. But please move on and tell me why you think Reagan was a fiscally good president in spite of his borrow and spend policies. Give me all the good arguments why an excellent economic policy should include things as
- Declining real wages
- Tripling of national debt
- Above average unemployment rates
- Below average increases in job creation and productivity
- Tax cuts for the rich paid by the middle class
- Reduction in social programmes
I'm really exited to learn about the benefits of these things.
The prime function of government is to provide the greatest amount of happiness to the greatest amount of people, to uphold peace and security and to provide a decent standard of living for those who cannot do so themselves.
If you want a more balanced budget you could start thinking about the insane military spending.
Thank you for enlightening me on what the intent of a charity is - I really didn't know.
However that knowledge doesn't tell me anything about who the "intended" provider of social services should be. History can not tell us that.
The average intelligence of this thread would definitely be improved if you started to post arguments in favour of your opinions instead of angry rants.
Not sure what's a bigger joke -- the above post, or the poster referring to himself as a moderate.This chart was copied from the Haritage Foundatrion web sight. Hardly a left wing organization, and it shows that all republicans give us debt and grow thew government more than the democrats do. Every republicans gave us debt, every republican gives us bigger government, every republican gives us inflation, deficits and a need for another financial bale out of fat cats by the government. Republicans cause the country it's financial problems. Obama will be a pypical democrat and give us less debt than a republican would.
Not sure what's a bigger joke -- the above post, or the poster referring to himself as a moderate.
the bigger joke was your lame effort to ignore the factual content of his post
Obviously you didn't live and work in the 80/s because you have no clue as to the economy that was actually inherited, try buying a home at 15% interest rates or having double digit inflation?
Declining wages is a lie
Tripling the national debt happened but Reagan and the Congress doubled the debt, as it ws 900 billion and they added 1.7 trillion to it.
High unemployment was caused by the inherited economic problems left by Carter, something you ignore.
Tax cuts for the rich? LOL, anyone that paid taxes got a tax cut, Obviously you didn't read the facts presented. Tax cuts doubled govt. revenue thus weren't paid for by the middle class. That is an idiotic statement.
Your so called facts are distorted and ignores the conditions in this country when Reagan took office. You also ignore that the American people re-elected Reagan with the biggest landslide in U.S. history in 1984 which goes to prove who they held responsible for the economic numbers of 81-82. Stop talking like an idiot.
You have no interest in learning the truth because you are conditioned to ignore the truth.
Never read the Constitution either, I see. It isn't the role of the govt. to provide anything but equal opportunity and protection. History isn't your friend.
The role of the govt. is to PROVIDE FOR THE COMMON DEFENSE. and to PROMOTE, not provide domestic welfare.
The intended provider of social services was the individual, not the Federal Taxpayer and if that individual had problems then the local community would step up including the churches and charities.
Actually the average intelligence of this thread would go up if liberals stopped posting.
You mean the factual ERRORS, half-truths and lies?the bigger joke was your lame effort to ignore the factual content of his post
You mean the factual ERRORS, half-truths and lies?
Yes, I ignored then, and reasonably so.
Regicollis;1058692084]I never claimed that there was not an economic decline. Reagan just used it as an excuse to slash public services.
Told by the evil communists at the Labour Statistics Bureau?
Unemployment was lower during the Carter years.
Next time, couldn't you use a less common fallback strategy than blaming the predecessor?
The rich got most out of the tax cuts. We all know that.
A lot of middle class tax payers ended up paying more taxes because the AMT removed many deductions.
So because Reagan was re-elected his policies were sound? Does that mean that you consider the New Deal to be sound because the American people re-elected FDR three times?
Then it is good that I have you to provide me with the truth fresh out of the best neo-conservative think thanks.
I have actually read a fair deal of constitutions, including the American. But I fail to see what that has to do with anything. We are having a political argument, not a legal one.
Your statements of opinion does not become more convincing because you are using the Caps Lock key
Interesting opinion. But tell my why that is what is "intended". Who intended it? Government should be organised according to the will of the people, not as a museum of legal history. Times change, and so should government.
Why do you participate in a debate forum if debate is not what you want?
Hardly.of course you did, being without the ability to actually refute them
Half-truth, lie.and it shows that all republicans give us debt and grow thew government more than the democrats do.
half-truthEvery republicans gave us debt, every republican gives us bigger government, every republican gives us inflation, deficits...
Lie, half-truthand a need for another financial bale out of fat cats by the government
This is either a lie or factual error rooted in ignorance -either way, it cannot be proven true.Republicans cause the country it's financial problems.
At this point, The Obama has given us more debt that RWR, and debt exceeding exceeded the total deficts under GWB.Obama will be a pypical democrat and give us less debt than a republican would.
Hardly.
Half-truth, lie.
All Dems give is debt.
Every Dem grew government more than his GOP predecessor.
half-truth
Same can be said for every Dem.
Lie, half-truth
Not ever GOP predeisent had a 'bail-out of the a the fat cats'
Dems President have 'bailed out the fat-cats'.
This is either a lie or factual error rooted in ignorance -either way, it cannot be proven true.
At this point, The Obama has given us more debt that RWR, and debt exceeding exceeded the total deficts under GWB.
So, This is either a lie or a factual error rooted in ignorance -either way, it cannot be proven true.
And so, my original response stands.
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As said above, Reagan did what he could with an uncooperative Congress.
Yes, yes I did.guess you showed me
See? What did I just say?ooops, wrong. all you have proven (once again) is your inability to recognize the data from that previously posted chart showing that republican presidents are consistently more likely to spend much more than the government takes in
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