Was America Doomed from the Outset?

[Compatibilist]

No. That's the Right with their church buses.

Actually that's what the left does along with the community organization free transport to polls. If everyone took responsibility to get themselves to voting booth [including friends/family] the repubs would win by a landslide. Put back Clinton era qualifications/restrictions for welfare [that Obama thew out] and Repubs also win. That's how Obama got re-elected... by busing all those dependent on Govt freebies to polls.

 

[calamity]

Actually that's what the left does along with the community organization free transport to polls. If everyone took responsibility to get themselves to voting booth [including friends/family] the repubs would win by a landslide. Put back Clinton era qualifications/restrictions for welfare [that Obama thew out] and Repubs also win. That's how Obama got re-elected... by busing all those dependent on Govt freebies to polls.

Obama didn't "throw out" Clinton era reforms.

That said, Obama’s HHS doesn’t take us all the way back to pre-1996 days. If today’s action stands—surviving legal as well as political challenge—it will allow HHS to let those states that don’t really want to require welfare recipients to work to not require them to work. Before 1996, HHS would be preventing states that did want to require welfare recipients to work from requiring them to work. Still a big difference between then and today. But not as much as between then and yesterday.
Obama weakens welfare reform–again | The Daily Caller

Nuance must be impossible for Righties to grasp. Besides, I thought the Right was all about "State's Rights"?

Sheesh.

 

[Jack Hays]

Obama didn't "throw out" Clinton era reforms.

Nuance must be impossible for Righties to grasp. Besides, I thought the Right was all about "State's Rights"?

Sheesh.

Not everyone who rates BHO a poor POTUS is on the right.

 

[calamity]

Not everyone who rates BHO a poor POTUS is on the right.

He may well be a poor POTUS. I know plenty of OWS types who can't stand the man. But, saying he threw out Clinton era reforms when all he did was kick some choices back to the states is simply false.

 

[polgara]

Not everyone who rates BHO a poor POTUS is on the right.

Yep! My siblings are all Dems, and when they talk, it's always about Clinton, because "we had work then!" They even grudgingly admit that things weren't too bad under Bush2, either! They don't denigate Obama; they just don't bring him up in conversation! Sometimes what is not said is important, too!

Greetings, Jack. :2wave:

 

[Jack Hays]

He may well be a poor POTUS. I know plenty of OWS types who can't stand the man. But, saying he threw out Clinton era reforms when all he did was kick some choices back to the states is simply false.

And my only point is that "states' rights" makes a ludicrous defense of the action.

 

[Jack Hays]

Yep! My siblings are all Dems, and when they talk, it's always about Clinton, because "we had work then!" They even grudgingly admit that things weren't too bad under Bush2, either! They don't denigate Obama; they just don't bring him up in conversation! Sometimes what is not said is important, too!

Greetings, Jack. :2wave:

Greetings, Polgara.:2wave:

Happy Monday.eace

 

[calamity]

And my only point is that "states' rights" makes a ludicrous defense of the action.

It wasn't a defense. It was a remark. Funny how the State's Rights crowd hates state's rights whenever said right given to the states is something with which they disagree.

 

[Jack Hays]

It wasn't a defense. It was a remark. Funny how the State's Rights crowd hates state's rights whenever said right given to the states is something with which they disagree.

I'll have to take your word for it since I'm not part of the "States' Rights crowd."