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"War for oil"

easyt65

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Today the price of oil topped $75 a barrel. I will stop here and pause for the long list of Democrats on this board to admit that everyone who ever claimed the war against Afghanistan , against Iraq, and the war on terror was just a war for oil were dead wrong!
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:roll: Yeah, while I'm waiting for THAT one to happen, don't think for a second I'm holding my breath waiting for the politicians to eliminate the tax on gasoline to help alleviate the problem, either!! :rofl
 
easyt65 said:
Today the price of oil topped $75 a barrel. I will stop here and pause for the long list of Democrats on this board to admit that everyone who ever claimed the war against Afghanistan , against Iraq, and the war on terror was just a war for oil were dead wrong!

Why would we admit that? Checked oil compay profits lately? The occupation has disrupted Iraqi oil flow, causing prices to rise, and Bush's oil cronies are making a mint. Later they'll get fat contracts to rebuild and run Iraq's oil wells, and make another mint. They win both ways.
 
Iriemon said:
Why would we admit that? Checked oil compay profits lately? The occupation has disrupted Iraqi oil flow, causing prices to rise, and Bush's oil cronies are making a mint. Later they'll get fat contracts to rebuild and run Iraq's oil wells, and make another mint. They win both ways.
Don't you mean "the oil cronies of both sides of the aisle"?...
 
How did I know Iriemon would be the 1st to respond?

So far my expectation regarding responses has been met!

Next...........:lol:
 
Iriemon said:
Why would we admit that? Checked oil compay profits lately? The occupation has disrupted Iraqi oil flow, causing prices to rise, and Bush's oil cronies are making a mint. Later they'll get fat contracts to rebuild and run Iraq's oil wells, and make another mint. They win both ways.
Disrupted the 11% of our oil we normally get from that region? :lol: You're funny.
 
KCConservative said:
Disrupted the 11% of our oil we normally get from that region? :lol: You're funny.

I admit that my response was a little tounge in cheek to cheeky thread, but you think the price of oil is based up the % we by from that region? :lol: You're funny.
 
Iriemon said:
I admit that my response was a little tounge in cheek to cheeky thread, but you think the price of oil is based up the % we by from that region? :lol: You're funny.
No, I don;t. And that's why I never said that. Do you think a war would be waged for that 11%? You're funny. :lol:
 
easyt65 said:
Today the price of oil topped $75 a barrel. I will stop here and pause for the long list of Democrats on this board to admit that everyone who ever claimed the war against Afghanistan , against Iraq, and the war on terror was just a war for oil were dead wrong!
:roll: Yeah, while I'm waiting for THAT one to happen, don't think for a second I'm holding my breath waiting for the politicians to eliminate the tax on gasoline to help alleviate the problem, either!! :rofl

The price of oil ain't got anything to do with it...its the possession and supply of the oil which really matters. What are you gonna do when/if it tops $100 or $200, stop using your car and walk everywhere??

We'd much rather pay $100 a barrel ,or even a $1000 a barrel, than go without the stuff. I don't think the price proves anything except US oil companies are getting fat from profits.
 
KCConservative said:
No, I don;t. And that's why I never said that. Do you think a war would be waged for that 11%? You're funny. :lol:

What is the value of 11% of US oil imported in any given year? If I was a big owner of an oil company I might be laughing.
 
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The prices of oil is going too high

they said that oil consumption has increased!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

is the world growing within one year:confused: :confused: :shock:
 
skg said:
The prices of oil is going too high

they said that oil consumption has increased!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

is the world growing within one year:confused: :confused: :shock:


China and India. They have entered the industrial age. China has done so with population numbers that we were no where near when we went through it. There's a lot of factors. It's not as simple as partisan slavery or "war."
 
Originally posted by easyt65
Today the price of oil topped $75 a barrel. I will stop here and pause for the long list of Democrats on this board to admit that everyone who ever claimed the war against Afghanistan , against Iraq, and the war on terror was just a war for oil were dead wrong!
"Dead wrong!" Here's some irrefutable facts for your fanatical right views:
  • Before the US attacked, ten years of sanctions were going to be lifted soon. Allowing Iraq to sell oil on the world market once more.
  • Because of the US involvement in pushing for these sanctions, which had more affect on the average Iraqi citizen than it did on their ruling tyrannical government, the likelyhood of them selling any oil to the United States was slim to none.
  • Since the attack, 100% of Iraqi petrol-chemical industry companies are allowed to be owned by foreign companies.
  • They already do not own any of their banking system. Of which, by the way, is being overseen by Baker-Botts, a Houston based law firm that is presently defending Saudi Arabia against the families of loved ones who died on 9/11.
Anyone care to venture a guess on who the Baker is in Baker-Botts?

In summary, Mr. easy..., I wouldn't be so sure about "dead wrong."
 
easyt65 said:
Today the price of oil topped $75 a barrel. I will stop here and pause for the long list of Democrats on this board to admit that everyone who ever claimed the war against Afghanistan , against Iraq, and the war on terror was just a war for oil were dead wrong!
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:roll: Yeah, while I'm waiting for THAT one to happen, don't think for a second I'm holding my breath waiting for the politicians to eliminate the tax on gasoline to help alleviate the problem, either!! :rofl

The Bush Administration thought the war would go very well, greeted like heros and within months oil would be, unhindered flowing out of the country. It didn't turn out that way.

Are seriously telling me that an Administration of OIL TYCOONS, didn't think to themselves "oooh, I think Iraq has a s**t load of oil." The neo-cons were looking to do something about the "Hussein problem" before 9/11, 9/11 just gave them that chance.

I'm not saying oil was the ONLY reason the US went to war, but it was ONE of the reasons.
 
Billo_Really said:
Because of the US involvement in pushing for these sanctions, which had more affect on the average Iraqi citizen than it did on their ruling tyrannical government, the likelyhood of them selling any oil to the United States was slim to none.



We have no reason to expect that an Iraqi government will sell us oil, especially when we get blamed for the insurgency due to not having enough troops (UN). So I agree, it is War for Oil, or Peace for Greed, as it just depends upon your definition of “peace!“ We also have no reason whatsoever to believe that lower oil prices will result from removing our troops from Saudi Arabia, due to the lack of an external threat.

Having a reason to totally disregard the many resolutions and threats of dire consequences requires a motive, and thank you Billo Really for reminding me of the motive of oil, as we can see the irrefutable facts are that more than Iraq suffers due to oil interests:

“France led opposition to US moves at the UN over Iraq. As was the case in Iraq, France also has significant oil interests in Sudan.”
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/3875277.stm

“Deploring also that the Government of Iraq has failed to comply with its commitments pursuant to resolution 687 (1991) with regard to terrorism, pursuant to resolution 688 (1991) to end repression of its civilian population…” http://archives.cnn.com/2002/US/11/08/resolution.text/

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32. Requires Iraq to inform the Security Council that it will not commit or support any act of international terrorism or allow any organization directed towards commission of such acts to operate within its territory and to condemn unequivocally and renounce all acts, methods and practices of terrorism;
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33. Declares that, upon official notification by Iraq to the Secretary-General and to the Security Council of its acceptance of the provisions above, a formal cease-fire is effective between Iraq and Kuwait and the Member States cooperating with Kuwait in accordance with resolution 678 (1990);” http://www.fas.org/news/un/iraq/sres/sres0687.htm

Let’s go back in time:

“On June 30, 1979, a weary Jimmy Carter was looking forward to a few days' vacation in Hawaii, as Air Force One sped him away from a grueling economic summit in Tokyo. He had earned it. Two weeks earlier, Carter had successfully concluded the SALT II arms control negotiations with Soviet Premier Leonid Brezhnev in Vienna, the latest in a series of foreign policy achievements since the dramatic Camp David summit the previous September.
Aboard the plane, the phone rang. It was Carter's pollster, Patrick Caddell. "I remember getting on the phone and saying, 'You people have got to come home now,'" Caddell recalls. "We were all saying the same thing: 'You have no idea how bad it is here.'"
The Energy Crisis
That week, the energy crisis that Carter had been trying to avoid since taking office had finally erupted. The OPEC oil producers' cartel had recently announced another in a series of oil price increases that sent gasoline prices skyrocketing and led to severe shortages. Long gas-pump lines and short tempers started in California and spread eastward, focusing Americans' outrage over a seemingly endless economic decline.”
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/amex/carter/peopleevents/e_malaise.html

All in the same year while I was in the military: Afghanistan and the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics, Socialist Saddam usurps power (then socializes the oil industry), and formerly accused of being a Communist Jacques Chirac was Mayor of Paris when the Ayatollah Khomeini worked in France to bring about the 444 days of glory in Iran. All the chess pieces in place.

Now let us look to the future:

"I believe the American people deserve a president who just isn't going to have a friendly talk, but who is going to fight to guarantee that we lower prices for Americans," Kerry said.
http://www.usatoday.com/news/politicselections/nation/president/2004-04-22-kerry-saudi_x.htm

"I'm here today to say if there was no deal, if there was no agreement, then stand up today and jawbone OPEC to lower the price," Kerry said. "They could up that production tomorrow. We need to have them answer why they won't do that." http://www.usatoday.com/news/politicselections/nation/president/2004-04-22-kerry-saudi_x.htm

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Air France is so nice.

“Glory be to the Bomb, and to the Holy Fallout. As it was in the beginning, is now, and ever shall be. World without end. Amen.”
 
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