Sherman123
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This is hilarious you bring up Libya. You do realize that BP signed a deal with Libya's leader (not going to butcher his name) for "OIL" right? We didn't need to go to war for "OIL". What a joke.
Also, I like how you just gloss over the fact that Egypt for a time wasn't ruled by an ally of the US. So I assume you admit then that Egypt wasn't carried out by CIA moles?
I admit no such thing. Quoth Hilary, "we came, we saw, he's dead," when asked about Libya. You don't seem to remember the signature flags being waved around before we bombed the crap out of a Nation that was an example for all of Africa. The USA is and was wrong, morally and ethically, to have bombed a Nation that was no threat to us, once again. The reason we bombed them is because Qaddaffi was teaching Africans how to develop their own resources without Western hegemony. BP is a British corporation, don't ya' know?
I'm convinced Dave Fagan has dreams where oil companies in human form beat him to death with sacks full of fiat dollars and then rob him of his gold.
You did say "Western Corporations" in your previous post. Great Britain is part of the west, don't ya know?
And besides, that's not the reason we bombed Libya. Hell, if it were up to the US, we wouldn't of been involved in the first place. But the real reason for us having to do it, was that there was a large influx of refugees coming from your model nation, and the Euros had to do something about it. Of course, the Euros couldn't even handle this situation on their own, thus is why we were dragged in.
I see. We bombed the **** out of them causing thousands and thousands of deaths to help them out, don't ya' know? We, once again, attacked a Nation that was no threat to the USA. There are lots of refugees fleeing Libya now, but not before we screwed up the Nation. Now we have the CIA General Hafter trying to get a leadership position, just like our machinations in Ukraine. We're the bad guys. That's a clue.
But there were a lot of refugees fleeing Lybia! That's what I'm trying to tell you! You do remember that there was already a civil war going on in your "model nation" before we even got involved! Is your hatred of the west made you so blind to facts?
There are lots of refugees fleeing Cleveland to go to Texas, so we better bomb the crap out of Ohio. Get right on that won't ya'?
Well that depends. Is there a dictator butchering protesters in Cleveland and using rape as a form of torture? If that's the case, then I think something should be done.
Ask a silly rhetorical question, and guess what you get back.
In Cleveland the cops shoot 12 year old kids. On the good side, they don't torture them first, they just shoot them. Does that count? It's not rhetorical.
We talking about the kid playing with a toy gun that looks an awful lot like a real one?
We talking about a 12 year old child that looked like a 12 year old child.
Actually no were not. If you recall, when they called it in over the police scanner, they believed he was much older.
So ha! Gotcha there!
The caller said it looked like it could be a kid with a toy gun.
Talk about the police call in. When the officer called in, he described him as a male in his 20's, now clearly wrong mind you, but the point is that to the police, he didn't look like a 12 yo child.
The shooting was at a kid's playground, for krissake. The original caller stated it might be a toy gun. I can't draw you a picture. The officer fired within 2 seconds of getting out of his cruiser.
I know you have a deep seeded hatred for the police, but if you could step back and consider it from his perspective, he sees a gun being brandished about and is in fear for his life. The guy probably has a family man! And you know what, had the parents not been stupid enough to let the kid take off the orange tip, we wouldn't be having this discussion right now.
This OP needs this link. It is the original Bernstein article about the Church Committee Senate Investigation into covert CIA corruption of USA and World media. It has only become worse with bigger CIA budgets and more extensive domestic mission creep. The CIA has huge budgets today for this work and should give an indication of how they control the slant or narrative to control public opinion. I view the USA as having been in a Corporate/Labor War for over a Century and now the Corporate/CIA (CIA chartered to help USA CORPORATIONS overseas) side has won (Citizen United). CIA infilration has become endemic to State Dept., journalists (print, and all electronic), USAID, NED, and all major financial and banking centers to include the FED, Goldman Sachs, JPMorgan Chase and US Treasury, plus the ENERGY sector that overlaps. To me, they are the motivation force behind the NWO or World Corporate Government.
Carl Bernstein
"Among the executives who lent their cooperation to the Agency were Williarn Paley of the Columbia Broadcasting System, Henry Luce of Tirne Inc., Arthur Hays Sulzberger of the New York Times, Barry Bingham Sr. of the LouisviIle Courier‑Journal, and James Copley of the Copley News Service. Other organizations which cooperated with the CIA include the American Broadcasting Company, the National Broadcasting Company, the Associated Press, United Press International, Reuters, Hearst Newspapers, Scripps‑Howard, Newsweek magazine, the Mutual Broadcasting System, the Miami Herald and the old Saturday Evening Post and New York Herald‑Tribune."
I think a good cop is like a good teacher and worth ten, even twenty times what they're paid. On the other hand I only remember 3 truly good teachers in my entire academic life. I'm from a rural area and we have good, not trigger happy police. The Cleveland cop is and was wrong and should be prosecuted.
Yes, because we all know that adults never go to playgrounds.The shooting was at a kid's playground, for krissake. The original caller stated it might be a toy gun. I can't draw you a picture. The officer fired within 2 seconds of getting out of his cruiser.
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