Saboteur said:
Okay easyt65 and Trajan,
What about the violence President Bush incited when he said "Bring it on"?
Please specify/clarify. After they have attacked us, to say we are not backing down and if they want any of 'this' they can bring it, I have no problem with that. It beats rolling over with your belly up like clinton did all those years, just asking for more and more attacks!
Saboteur said:
What about the fact that there was/is torture and the people who commited it were tried and convicted for it?
'All those people'? please specify/clarify? You mean like the Fem Army soldier who commited the acts of humiliation, 'conduct un-becoming? Not torture.
Saboteur said:
What about the fact that we have destroyed the terrorists' ability to reach our soil again? I thought you supported this war.
Do you mean we have grounded all airline traffic, closed all the borders, stopped Iran from developing nukes? How have we destroyed their ability to reach our soil? they have the same avenues they had prior to 9-11, just a little tighter security to have to find a way to by-pass. If all those guys committing suicide bombings etc in Iraq today were not focused on Iraq, they would be hitting Israel more frequently and focussing on hitting here again!
Saboteur said:
What about Saudi Arabia harboring terrorists yet they remain our allie?
Bin Laden and Al Qaeda used to give the royal familya fit about our HQ being there, so they thought if they would appease them by asking us to leave that would stop bin laden's/Al Qaeda's attacks. Once we left. the clue-light came on and the Royal Family saw that what Bin Laden really wants is to over-throw the Royal Family! They want our help, but they sometimes, we believe, ride both side of the fence.
Saboteur said:
What about exposing Valeri Plame?
Let's kill that myth once and for all.
Plame was well known to washington politicians and reporters as working for the CIA. Her husband, according to testimony, introduced her at parties as his CIA wife. She did not ift the 5-year criteria for being a 'COVERT' agent. She is a CIA DESK analyst. Although she was never OUTED as a covert agent, her identity was considered 'classified information'.
Despite liberal claims, Bush did not do it, had no part in it. Libby has been indicted for lying during the investigation (and should be punished). No one else has been indicted or arrested/charged.
if you are so upset about outing of a CIA operative, why aren't you screaming for John Kerry's head - he and several Dem Senators? If you recall, or not, Kerry outed a REAL CIA operative during the Bolton hearings. he and other dem Senators mentioned the opertive's name several times. Kerry mentioned it more than once, and bolton even tried to 'nudge' him on this, calling the operative by his code name in response, but kerry never got it. The CIA was sent scrambling to pull this agent out of his assignment and from the location where he was still under cover!
Kerry was never charged because the law states that one must out an agen intentionally. Plame did not meet the required definition of 'covert' as the agent Kerry outed, but neither one was outed INTENTIONALLY.
Never-the-less, 2 wrongs don't make a right!