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been there, done that...the bill strips them of the right to bargain benefits, it forces the unions to have a 'vote' every year to stay certified, it makes paying dues or joining the union an 'option' ...perhaps YOU SHOULD READ THE BILL.
:lamo:lamo:lamo:lamo oh my god!! this coming from you??:lamoRight but not wages. Why should the unions be given the right to take taxpayer money for benefits? Maybe you should learn the difference between public and private sector unions. Doubt it will make a lot of difference though since you don't live in Wisconsin and don't have to pay for those benefits. Again you speak about something that doesn't concern you and you know so little about.
Right but not wages. Why should the unions be given the right to take taxpayer money for benefits? Maybe you should learn the difference between public and private sector unions. Doubt it will make a lot of difference though since you don't live in Wisconsin and don't have to pay for those benefits. Again you speak about something that doesn't concern you and you know so little about.
Why doesn't the same standards apply to the polices, fire and prison unions??? Could it be possible because they supported Walker?
Why doesn't the same standards apply to the polices, fire and prison unions??? Could it be possible because they supported Walker?
been there, done that...the bill strips them of the right to bargain benefits, it forces the unions to have a 'vote' every year to stay certified, it makes paying dues or joining the union an 'option' ...perhaps YOU SHOULD READ THE BILL.
Here is the official report from the State of Wisconsin Fiscal Bureau. Read it and you can see how the new Governor helped manufacture this so called crisis just to be able to attempt to do what he is now doing.
http://legis.wisconsin.gov/lfb/Misc/2011_01_31Vos&Darling.pdf
2010-11
Revenues
Opening Balance, July 1 $25,718,100
Taxes 12,691,400,000
Departmental Revenues
Tribal Gaming 22,330,300
Other 833,733,300
Total Available $13,573,181,700
Appropriations
Gross Appropriations $14,109,283,800
Compensation Reserves 95,962,700
Biennial Appropriation Adjustment -242,677,200
Sum Sufficient Reestimates -121,637,800
Less Lapses -389,112,600
Net Appropriations $13,451,818,900
Balances
Gross Balance $121,362,800
Less Required Statutory Balance -65,000,000
Net Balance, June 30 $56,362,800
Here is what the people need to know and it is the taxpayers that fund the public unions
THE TRUTH
WISCONSIN TEACHERS (average) THE REST OF US
Average Salary $51,100 $50,400
Benefits $38,400 $10,600
Total $89,500 $61,000
On the job 9 months a year Work year round
Retirement at 50-55 y.o w/ 70% of pay Retire at 65 (maybe) with whatever the stock market leaves you with
Full health benefits for life Good luck
CONTRIBUTION
Pension 0.2% taxpayers pay the rest Good luck and 5-20%
Health 4-6% taxpayers pay the rest Good luck and as much as 50%
LOL, from a minority position? Unions make up 11% of the work force so unless 11% is the majority, you are off base again as usual. take your argument to the taxpayers and see if they buy the collective bargaining agreement for public employees?
The GOP is facing demographics that spell DOOM for a political party of all white people in the next few decades. They must find a strategy that permits them to rule from a minority position in which they disenfranchise those who would vote against them. This is part of it.
Now please go back and compare comparable educational levels and skill levels. Or do you prefer comparing apples to cinder blocks and then complaining that your pie tastes like concrete?
You really need to pay more attention to what you read. Again, just for you because you are special
Now read it a few times just so you get the point.
do you work for this school district? are you a teacher?
It's actually more than that, it's about stripping the Democratic Party of a major support group. This is just the beginning. I don't know if this has been mentioned, but Gov. Walker go major from the Koch Bros. The Republicans are trying to get one party rule..
That is exactly the big issue. Thank you for making it again here. The unions are the only big money supporter of the Democrats. If they can be busted that leaves one party with all the big money donors.
Everyone good with one party running the government?
Keep believing this is the political party of all white people. Good people of all races see what is happening in Wisconsin as an example of the labor movement destroying the economy of the state. Fair minded people aren't in today's Democrat Party and means members of all races.
Nearly all (95%) black voters cast their ballot for Democrat Barack Obama. Among Latino voters, 67% voted for Obama while 31% voted for Republican John McCain. Among Asian voters, 62% supported Obama and 35% voted for McCain. In contrast, white voters supported McCain (55%) over Obama (43%).
If the reaction here on this site is any indication, as long as that single party is a conservative one, lots of people here would be just ducky with it.
Don't let the facts get in your way. From Pew Research on the last presidential election
The modern GOP is a white persons game. And if you have not read the latest demographic projections for the near future, that is a vanishing breed that could be a minority in less than forty years.
If the reaction here on this site is any indication, as long as that single party is a conservative one, lots of people here would be just ducky with it.
Is that right conservatives? Would you be happy with one party rule?
We had a one party rule the past two years and look what it got us, 15 million unemployed, emboldened unions out bashing heads, 3.5 trillion added to the debt. If that is today's Democrat Party, a single party under Conservative control would be a welcome change.
We had a one party rule the past two years and look what it got us
I'm not talking about 2 or 4 years I am talking about from now on. Without the unions, the only big money backer the Democrats have, only Republican candidates will have the money to win elections. So, I repeat my question.
Would a one party rule in this country make you happy?
What about single party rule under an alternative party?
I'm not talking about 2 or 4 years I am talking about from now on. Without the unions, the only big money backer the Democrats have, only Republican candidates will have the money to win elections. So, I repeat my question.
Would a one party rule in this country make you happy?
If the Democrat Party that I belonged to for almost 25 years continues to be hijacked, yep, I would support the one party rule by the Republicans. That obviously is sad but the Democrats today are the party of special interests and not the majority in this country. Their support for wealth redistribution has turned off a lot of people and it has to stop. Either somone takes over the Democrat Party and returns it to its roots or it dies forever in my eyes
Don't let the facts get in your way. From Pew Research on the last presidential election
The modern GOP is a white persons game. And if you have not read the latest demographic projections for the near future, that is a vanishing breed that could be a minority in less than forty years.
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