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yes...let's continue our race to the bottom. when salaries fall for public school teachers, they will fall for private school teachers. then who do you think will be standing in line to teach our children?
That is complete deception on your part. Where is Walker saying to cut salaries?
it's not deception. why would you think he'll stop with cutting benefits? this year, maybe, but what about the future? again, it seems republicans are intent upon destroying our middle class.
They have that is why there are right to work states where you can not be forced to join a union or be forced to pay union dues against your will
What difference does it make? People are standing in line to be teachers. Let the market speak there like it does everywhere else.
There is no direct comparison to the private sector -- OH!!! Unless you want to use private schools.And, historically, those salaries have been lower than those in public schools. So let's use those.
it's not deception. why would you think he'll stop with cutting benefits? this year, maybe, but what about the future? again, it seems republicans are intent upon destroying our middle class.
Why do you care what someone else pays in taxes?
It is a scam that means nothing and shows unions and democrats do not have a leg to stand on.
What did Walker say that he has not said publicly?
Could you support this with some evidence?
Have they really been lower? Do you have some data to back that up?
I'm sorry, but I'm not the type who listens to unsubstantiated opinion. Please provide some sources to your assertions aside from your anecdotal assumptions.
Public vs Private School Teachers: Who Gets More?So what gives when you look at public-school and private-school teachers? The National Center for Education Statistics puts it this way: Using 2007-2008 data (the latest available), the average "total school-year and summer earned income" for public school teachers was $53,230 . The equivalent for private-school teachers was $39,690.
That's a whopping $13,540 differential on salary alone. And in virtually every subset (highest degree earned, years of experience, you name it), the public-school teachers do far better than the private-school ones.
Because of the National debt.
If you include the money the state pays for the pension fund and health insurance the salary would be much higher
Liberals and union try to deceive us on this the truth is they are much better off than than the average person in Wisconsin and get 3 months a year vacation
Why similar educated. Is that who is paying their wages. How about the average for the state they get paid from.
How about just the average wage for people in Wisconsin. Most people do not get free insurance and pension plan
Why similar educated. Is that who is paying their wages. How about the average for the state they get paid from.
Compare it any way you like. Most people in the private sector with 4 to 8 years of college make more. Show me statistics that say otherwise.
Public vs Private School Teachers: Who Gets More?
Anecdotal evidence: two relatives who were forced to take jobs in Chicago Public School District (their very last choice) because neither could find a teaching job in suburban Chicago; another relative trying to find his first teaching job in suburban Chicago who's been trying for two years. A friend who's been substituting for four years while trying to get hired by the school distict.
Still waiting for an answer, Explain how government-paid employees who produce no revenue and are paid solely through tax dollars should be allowed to unionize against taxpayers?
I don't know about the tax cuts. The link didn't address those. But tax cuts have been proven to stimulate business and individual spending. One just can't grab on to tax cuts and say bad-bad-bad. The reality that matters is that Walker didn't take a surplus and turn it into a deficit as has been previously claimed.
They are not unionized against taxpayers. Read a little history about why we have unions for christ's sake, or a least pay attention to the current news. Before unions most cities were run by corporations that simply bought out the governments. Just as is happening in Wisconsin as demonstrated by the Governor's subordination to the Koch Brothers.
This is a fight between wall street and main street.
They are not unionized against taxpayers. Read a little history about why we have unions for christ's sake, or a least pay attention to the current news. Before unions most cities were run by corporations that simply bought out the governments. Just as is happening in Wisconsin as demonstrated by the Governor's subordination to the Koch Brothers.
This is a fight between wall street and main street.
Oh, pulllleeeeze. Only 11.9 % of American workers are in a union. Anyone who thinks they need a union in order to stay in Middle Class America is pathetic.
The $75,000 does include the pension and health insurance. Without that included the average salary is $50,000
I’ll just address the meat of this rambling, almost incoherent post. Taxpayers PAY WAGES of public employees, for services performed. If taxpayers were funding unions,people that had a hard on against unions(such as yourself) would have been lining up for the last hindered years filing court cases against their money funding unions. End of story,have a good day conservative.::2wave:
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