[W:98]A Mississippi Man Lost His Nursing Job After He Wore A Violently Racist Shirt To Vote In

[Kal'Stang]

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The information got back to his employer. They made the determination that their association was not comparable.

I don't understand what you are arguing.

Do you believe that an employer should be able to fire anyone for any reason?

Like I said. This is not a random corporation and there is no indication that random corporations are stepping in on American's right to free speech.

I don't know why you're saying "random corporation". Is this a corporation? Yes or no?

 

[Kal'Stang]

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That gentleman has a right to his opinion, but advertising it on his T-shirt was beyond belief.

He not only lost his job, but he could also have been physically attacked.

Most people keep their mouths shut in public. They express their opinion through their life decisions (e.g., where they decide to live, what school they send their children to, etc.).

In this UNIQUE country, all the various groups are not expected to love one another but they are expected to act civilly toward one another in public.

So "shut up unless what you say is agreeable"? Is that what you're saying?

 

[TheParser]

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So "shut up unless what you say is agreeable"? Is that what you're saying?

I think that most of us in public say only what is "agreeable" because we do not want trouble.

For example, you are a moderator here.

You do not allow certain opinions to be expressed if they violate forum rules. So all of us members have to watch our p's and q's.

 

[Kal'Stang]

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I think that most of us in public say only what is "agreeable" because we do not want trouble.

For example, you are a moderator here.

You do not allow certain opinions to be expressed if they violate forum rules. So all of us members have to watch our p's and q's.

This is also a privately run site. Not in a public venue.

 

[Serenity]

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Absolutely he should be fired from his position. He should not be dealing with patients whose health is already compromised while openly promoting such dehumanising views.

Would you be okay with you or your family seeking treatment from a Dr/Nurse/Paramedic who wanders around in a ISIS propaganda T Shirt promoting it's followers to wage all out war on the West? Jihad Justice :roll:

I certainly wouldn't be.

 

[rocket88]

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Yesteryear, they did vote for Democrats in what was known as the Solid South. Today they vote for Republicans. The catalyst in that switch was LBJ signing the Equal Rights Act, followed by Nixon's Southern Strategy. A few hangers on remained Democrat, but 90 percent of them went Republican. So yes, racists supported Democrats at one time. Today they support Republicans. The GOP today is not the Party of Lincoln, as FOX News would like you to believe.

They did...in the past.

 

[rocket88]

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Another shaving cut from the 1st Amendment block.

Buzz...wrong! He faced no punishment from the government.

But go ahead and keep sticking up for racists. That's what your party does now.

 

[MSgt]

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Yesteryear, they did vote for Democrats in what was known as the Solid South. Today they vote for Republicans. The catalyst in that switch was LBJ signing the Equal Rights Act, followed by Nixon's Southern Strategy. A few hangers on remained Democrat, but 90 percent of them went Republican. So yes, racists supported Democrats at one time. Today they support Republicans. The GOP today is not the Party of Lincoln, as FOX News would like you to believe.

It's not even the Party of Reagan.

 

[apdst]

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Buzz...wrong! He faced no punishment from the government.

But go ahead and keep sticking up for racists. That's what your party does now.

That ain't what you all said about the kneelers.

 

[Buzz62]

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Headline: A Mississippi Man Lost His Nursing Job After He Wore A Violently Racist Shirt To Vote In The Midterms

https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/craigsilverman/mississippi-racist-shirt-vote-viral-photo

I saw this on election day. Some people had identified him as a poll worker, which wasn't true, but it's a helluva shirt to wear out on election day to cast your vote.

If anyone needs to know why the "Confederate" flag carries its bad reputation, look at the picture below. He might as well be wearing a white robe. Good to see his employer didn't put up with it.

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OK well, wearing such a shirt at work would be a "bad" idea.
He got what he paid for.

 

[rocket88]

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I was thinking the same. I get that the shirt is just plain wrong, but unless the guy is at a job related function wearing it (tying him to that employer) what he wears when he is not working shouldn't be the employer's business. And certainly not something to lose your job over.

Yeah...I kind of see the point there. But why would you wear that in a public setting? I can also see the employer's POV that they want nothing to do with it. If he's in a public facing position, they don't want him to be recognized.

 

[rocket88]

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That ain't what you all said about the kneelers.

Right because kneeling to protest racism is equal to wearing a racist shirt.

We get it. You claim to be black but when it counts, you always side with racists.

 

[RabidAlpaca]

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Right because kneeling to protest racism is equal to wearing a racist shirt.

We get it. You claim to be black but when it counts, you always side with racists.

Oh my god... Does adpts pretend to be black? :lamo What a load of bull****.

 

[TrumpTrain]

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.........A Mississippi Man Lost His Nursing Job After He Wore A Violently Racist Shirt To Vote In The Midterms..........

Another example of people WANTING to see racism where there is no racism. Hanging as a method of capitol punishment was accepted in America for a long time. I see the shirt as promoting the death penalty. I see nothing on the shirt that points to any particular race.

This is the racism of the Left, see race everywhere even when it is not there. I remember what they said that calling Obama a socialist was racist. They said that on MSNBC all the time. Now half the Dems call themselves socialists.

This is the racism of the Left, see race everywhere even when it is not there.

 

[calamity]

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That is one stupid Mississippian.

That is one stupid Republican.

 

[TrumpTrain]

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Another example of people WANTING to see racism where there is no racism. Hanging as a method of capitol punishment was accepted in America for a long time. I see the shirt as promoting the death penalty. I see nothing on the shirt that points to any particular race.

This is the racism of the Left, see race everywhere even when it is not there. I remember what they said that calling Obama a socialist was racist. They said that on MSNBC all the time. Now half the Dems call themselves socialists.

This is the racism of the Left, see race everywhere even when it is not there.

Continuing from my last post (quoted): Is this the America you want to live in, where your life is destroyed by saying something or wearing a t-shirt that says something? Doesn't anybody see that THIS is the new fascism, and not the false made up fascism attributed to Trump? You liberals are creating a nightmare nation for your kids and grandkids.

 

[Amelia]

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Continuing from my last post (quoted): Is this the America you want to live in, where your life is destroyed by saying something or wearing a t-shirt that says something? Doesn't anybody see that THIS is the new fascism, and not the false made up fascism attributed to Trump? You liberals are creating a nightmare nation for your kids and grandkids.

You don't think black patients have a right to nursing care from someone who doesn't give them explicit reason to fear that the provider holds ill will toward them?


Agree to disagree.



Freedom of expression doesn't mean freedom from consequences. If your racism is so important to you that you need to advertise it, you're narrowing your career choices. Policing, teaching, patient care, etc. become dicey. Pick a job where your discriminatory beliefs don't clash with your clients' right to goodwill.

 

[beefheart]

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Another example of people WANTING to see racism where there is no racism. Hanging as a method of capitol punishment was accepted in America for a long time. I see the shirt as promoting the death penalty. I see nothing on the shirt that points to any particular race.

This is the racism of the Left, see race everywhere even when it is not there. I remember what they said that calling Obama a socialist was racist. They said that on MSNBC all the time. Now half the Dems call themselves socialists.

This is the racism of the Left, see race everywhere even when it is not there.

What a stupid post.

 

[apdst]

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Right because kneeling to protest racism is equal to wearing a racist shirt.

We get it. You claim to be black but when it counts, you always side with racists.

It's all protected speech. Thank you for proving that you believe that only speech you agree with should be protected.

 

[ElChupacabra]

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It's all protected speech. Thank you for proving that you believe that only speech you agree with should be protected.

The salient point is the 1st amendment refers to the government not establishing laws which abridge free speech; it in now way absolves people from the consequences of that speech. In this case a private corporation felt the opinion expressed publicly by one of their employees conflicted with their own. This falls in the "personal responsibility" category; where an individual has to think carefully about the message they're sending and the potential results.

 

[apdst]

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The salient point is the 1st amendment refers to the government not establishing laws which abridge free speech; it in now way absolves people from the consequences of that speech. In this case a private corporation felt the opinion expressed publicly by one of their employees conflicted with their own. This falls in the "personal responsibility" category; where an individual has to think carefully about the message they're sending and the potential results.

I know what the point is. My point, is that anyone who believes that doesn't believe is freedom and liberty.

Also, as Rocket88 proved, Leftists are extremely hypocritical when it comes to civil rights.

 

[ElChupacabra]

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I know what the point is. My point, is that anyone who believes that doesn't believe is freedom and liberty.

Also, as Rocket88 proved, Leftists are extremely hypocritical when it comes to civil rights.

So you want freedom from consequences?

 

[apdst]

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So you want freedom from consequences?

Yes. Don't you? Should you be punished for anything you say?

Freedom from concequences is exactly what "freedom and liberty" are all about.

 

[ElChupacabra]

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Yes. Don't you? Should you be punished for anything you say?

Freedom from concequences is exactly what "freedom and liberty" are all about.

No, because that's not realistic. There are all sorts of limits to what we can say or do which are either defined legally or through societal norms. So in the case of the OP, do you think the company has no right to pick people who they feel best represent the values of the company? When you choose to publicly display your views, it is your right, but what you seem to be asking for is that others accept it and not react to them. That doesn't sound like freedom at all.

 

[HenryChinaski]

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Yes. Don't you? Should you be punished for anything you say?

Freedom from concequences is exactly what "freedom and liberty" are all about.

If I say or portray certain things on social media or in public while off the clock that are counterintuitive to my employers values, vision and brand they can terminate me. And that is a reasonable position from a business standpoint.