[W:913]Us pro-lifers have got to stop using the religious argument for being against this...

[joko104]

The chart says that Blacks, Hispanics and Other have all experienced between a 40% to 44% reduction in numbers of abortions since 2000. Looks like they are all working harder than Whites who have reduced their numbers of abortions by only 17%.

Actually Biden ordered us (rolls eyes)not to accept any of your facts.

I'm curious, why are you so interested in what Blacks are doing about abortion?

Just a comment of one of the realities of abortion stats. The political consequences on the black population in terms of political power is huge.

 

[Scrabaholic]

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]But I understand that Joe Biden ordered you to never accept facts.

Your claim was that the "abortion industry" has targetted blacks from day one. You have not proven that. It's a lie.

 

[Integrityrespec]

There is no scientific argument against a safe and effective medical treatment.

The argument is based in the sanctity of life, it's a human life or it is not.

 

[joko104]

Your claim was that the "abortion industry" has targetted blacks from day one. You have not proven that. It's a lie.

Whatever. The original argument was to slow the growth of the inferior and mongrel races, most of all black people. This was the era of eugenics and the USA literally had a eugenics president. Now it could just be that abortions thru such original targeting long ago this became more acceptable in the black community - without stigma in the black community - for which then abortion businesses (that's what they are as all medical facilities are) will be located disproportionally more convenient for black women and black communities.

That is a long way to say business is where the customers most are. Proportional to population groups where they are the majority in the community is where abortion businesses will be located. That does not mean any evil motive by anyone involved - and may even have good motives. It was often argued that poor women should have less children for a better quality of life and economic status.

 

[Valery]

And guess what? No such late term abortions of "healthy" fetuses take place...in any states. (Unless possibly the mother's life is i

Why not? It's "just a fetus", right?

What a great downward trend in abortions is displayed! Thanks.

It's true, the number of abortions goes down every year.

The more we continue to improve socio-economic conditions for all Americans, the more that downward trend will continue. Goal=0

 

[screenwriter]

Your claim was that the "abortion industry" has targetted blacks from day one. You have not proven that. It's a lie.

The argument is based in the sanctity of life, it's a human life or it is not.

But then abortions are no long being used "Medically" - abortion is a medical procedure that has been usurped by pop culture for "other than medical" purposes. The percentage of medically necessary abortions is minuscule to the overall number of abortions. Just like "plastic surgery", which was "invented" to rebuild and correct disfigurements and deformities, has been usurped by popular culture to be used for non-medical reasons.

 

[Lursa]

The argument is based in the sanctity of life, it's a human life or it is not.

What if you dont believe in the sanctity of life? "Sanctity" is a religious term. Human, Homo sapiens, is just a biological category of animal life...and science is objective, it applies no value. "Sanctity" is certainly about value, it's subjective.

Rights are a man-made concept and are not based on religion.

What authority that all Americans are obligated to follow says the unborn have a right to life?

 

[Lursa]

Why not? It's "just a fetus", right?

The only value that matters is each individual woman (and hopefully the partner). If that's her attitude, so what?

The fact remains that most women choose to have their babies and the abortion rate goes down every year.

 

[Lursa]

But then abortions are no long being used "Medically" - abortion is a medical procedure that has been usurped by pop culture for "other than medical" purposes. The percentage of medically necessary abortions is minuscule to the overall number of abortions. Just like "plastic surgery", which was "invented" to rebuild and correct disfigurements and deformities, has been usurped by popular culture to be used for non-medical reasons.

What other purpose? The purpose is to end a pregnancy. What's changed? It's still a medical procedure.

Non-medical doesnt mean unnecessary. Who are strangers to decide what a woman needs in the best interests of her life, her health, and her ability to uphold her responsibilities to family, employer, church, community, society, etc?

 

[Valery]

The only value that matters is each individual woman (and hopefully the partner). If that's her attitude, so what?

The fact remains that most women choose to have their babies and the abortion rate goes down every year.

And why do you want abortion rates down if a fetus doesnt have rights and in itself doesn't matter?

 

[vegas giants]

And why do you want abortion rates down if a fetus doesnt have rights and in itself doesn't matter?

Always better to avoid a medical procedure if you can. Duh

 

[Lursa]

And why do you want abortion rates down if a fetus doesnt have rights and in itself doesn't matter?

Waste of women's time and money, risks their health, wastes medical supplies and Dr's time, etc etc etc. Maybe fewer good people will get blown up at clinics?

 

[vegas giants]

The argument is based in the sanctity of life, it's a human life or it is not.

It's a human and a dead one after abortion.


Fine with me

 

[screenwriter]

Always better to avoid a medical procedure if you can. Duh

"Always better to avoid a medical procedure"? Yet every single medical procedure comes with a warning of possible complications. Seems it would be far better to avoid pregnancy in the first place - duh.

 

[vegas giants]

"Always better to avoid a medical procedure"? Yet every single medical procedure comes with a warning of possible complications. Seems it would be far better to avoid pregnancy in the first place - duh.

Yeah. That would make abortion rare. Duh

 

[Scrabaholic]

Whatever. The original argument was to slow the growth of the inferior and mongrel races, most of all black people. This was the era of eugenics and the USA literally had a eugenics president. Now it could just be that abortions thru such original targeting long ago this became more acceptable in the black community - without stigma in the black community - for which then abortion businesses (that's what they are as all medical facilities are) will be located disproportionally more convenient for black women and black communities.

That is a long way to say business is where the customers most are. Proportional to population groups where they are the majority in the community is where abortion businesses will be located. That does not mean any evil motive by anyone involved - and may even have good motives. It was often argued that poor women should have less children for a better quality of life and economic status.

Eugenics is selective breeding to ensure strong characteristics. It has nothing to do with abortion.

There is no "targetting of blacks". Good grief. https://www.guttmacher.org/claim-mo...located-black-or-hispanic-neighborhoods-false

 

[Scrabaholic]

But then abortions are no long being used "Medically" - abortion is a medical procedure that has been usurped by pop culture for "other than medical" purposes. The percentage of medically necessary abortions is minuscule to the overall number of abortions. Just like "plastic surgery", which was "invented" to rebuild and correct disfigurements and deformities, has been usurped by popular culture to be used for non-medical reasons.

Regardless of reason, abortion is a medical procedure. It does not matter what the woman's reason is - either abortion is okay or it isn't.