[W:#9]Congrats Supreme Court Justice Jackson

[ultmd]

I disagree

And, as they say, opinions (or, in this case, a baseless, white-grievance-fueled opinion) are like arse-holes, aren't they?

No one cares about your feelings, man.

We all know that you can't back up your ignorant opinion with any substantive challenge to @ataraxia 's claim (i.e. "She is more qualified and experienced than most SCOTUS picks in the past")....don't we?

Yes, I believe WE (including YOU) really do know that.

and given he said he was limiting his pick to a black female-one has to see his actions as "just trying to fill racial/gender quotas"

Typical shallow, white-grievance argument.

You people LOVE "quotas", as long as they are used to grant opportunities to right-wing conservatives and/or right-wing evangelicals.....and, more recently, Federalist Society members. That ENTIRELY explains the selections of several of the less-than-stellar-resumed GOP members on the USSSC right now, in fact.

Tell us, @TurtleDude , did you harbor similar concerns when Trump declared his intent a female (the "white" part went without saying, of course) prior to his selection of Barrett?

What about when Bush '41 declared his intent to preference to select a black male to replace the late, great Thurgood Marshall on the Court?

What about when Reagan declared is intent to name a female (again, the "white" part was a given) prior to his selection of Sandar Day O'Connor in 1981?

In terms of professional credentials (i.e. academic background, academic achievement, professional experience and reputation, etc.)....Barrett and Thomas are CLEARLY the least qualified members to sit on the Court in the last 40+ years. And it's not even close.

In terms of moral and temperamental fitness for the Court.....Kavanaugh and Thomas are CLEARLY unfit and undeserving of a seat on ANY Federal court, much less a seat on the highest Court in the land

Judge (soon to be Justice) KBJ meets (and exceeds) any/all possible standards. By any measurable standard, she is one of (if not the most) qualified nominee in the last 40+ years.

And there are no reasonable, rational arguments to the contrary.

White-grievance fits of pique do not count.

Sorry.

 

[pocket aces]

explain. Federal court of appeals experience is widely regarded as the most important experience one can have. Being a top supreme court advocate is another as will a top ranked constitutional legal scholar

We all know you hate black people, so you can stop repeating yourself.

 

[Sandy Shanks]

It is, indeed, America's regrettable misfortune that, historically speaking, the worst President this country has ever experienced had the unique opportunity to nominate three Supreme Court justices.

Donald Trump was so bad his own followers avoid him as this thread attests. He was and is so bad his own followers are unable to defend him.

As a consequence of Trump's three conservative appointees, the Supreme Court has lost a tremendous amount of its prestige. It is making law, not overseeing law.

The Atlantic explains, "The conservative Court majority is moving at an accelerating pace to impose that coalition’s preferences on issues such as abortion, voting rights, and affirmative action.

"On all of these fronts, and others, the Republican justices are siding with what America has been—a mostly white, Christian, and heavily rural nation—over the urbanized, racially and religiously diverse country America is becoming."

“It is about almost trying to maintain a 1940s, 1950s view of what the United States is and what its obligations are to its citizens,” Sarah Warbelow, the legal director for the Human Rights Campaign.

Prior to the Trump administration, Presidential appointments to the Supreme Court were a shoe-in once the political give and take was over and the voting took place. Beginning with Trump, the vote became very close and along party lines. Before Trump, the parties talked to one another, and countless bills became law on a bi-partisan basis. Beginning with Trump the parties rarely interacted and bi-partisan legislation has largely become a thing of the past.

Supreme Court justices are appointed for life.

It is unlikely that Republicans will respond to the issues in this post. They avoid talking about what their party is doing. Could be a question of awareness.

 

[ultmd]

do you understand that when a liberal body declares someone well qualified, that doesn't mean they are the best or even in the top ten. Do you think that she is the best available leftwing jurist?

You're deflecting from @ataraxia 's question.

Your claim is that "there are dozens of people more qualified" than KBJ. The question (again from @ataraxia ) was "according to whom?". Why are you afraid to answer his question?

And here's my challenge: Please provide some (or, perhaps even ANY) examples of the "dozens who are more qualified" than KBJ?

If/when you cannot do so, we all can just agree that you didn't know wtf you were talking about when you said that, ok?

 

[TurtleDude]

You're deflecting from @ataraxia 's question.

Your claim is that "there are dozens of people more qualified" than KBJ. The question (again from @ataraxia ) was "according to whom?". Why are you afraid to answer his question?

And here's my challenge: Please provide some (or, perhaps even ANY) examples of the "dozens who are more qualified" than KBJ?

If/when you cannot do so, we all can just agree that you didn't know wtf you were talking about when you said that, ok?

most democrat judges who have been on the court of appeals longer than Jackson are arguably more qualified. So are brilliant leftist legal scholars such as Yale's Amar and Stanford's Karlan.

 

[TurtleDude]

It is, indeed, America's regrettable misfortune that, historically speaking, the worst President this country has ever experienced had the unique opportunity to nominate three Supreme Court justices.

Donald Trump was so bad his own followers avoid him as this thread attests. He was and is so bad his own followers are unable to defend him.

As a consequence of Trump's three conservative appointees, the Supreme Court has lost a tremendous amount of its prestige. It is making law, not overseeing law.

The Atlantic explains, "The conservative Court majority is moving at an accelerating pace to impose that coalition’s preferences on issues such as abortion, voting rights, and affirmative action.

"On all of these fronts, and others, the Republican justices are siding with what America has been—a mostly white, Christian, and heavily rural nation—over the urbanized, racially and religiously diverse country America is becoming."

“It is about almost trying to maintain a 1940s, 1950s view of what the United States is and what its obligations are to its citizens,” Sarah Warbelow, the legal director for the Human Rights Campaign.

Prior to the Trump administration, Presidential appointments to the Supreme Court were a shoe-in once the political give and take was over and the voting took place. Beginning with Trump, the vote became very close and along party lines. Before Trump, the parties talked to one another, and countless bills became law on a bi-partisan basis. Beginning with Trump the parties rarely interacted and bi-partisan legislation has largely become a thing of the past.

Supreme Court justices are appointed for life.

It is unlikely that Republicans will respond to the issues in this post. They avoid talking about what their party is doing. Could be a question of awareness.

wow leftwing opinions don't like conservative justices. Before Trump=remind me about say Bork? you seem ignorant of reality.

 

[TurtleDude]

We all know you hate black people, so you can stop repeating yourself.

we know you constantly lie about other posters because you are unable to make rational arguments

 

[Chase Morgan]

Good to have KBJ on the court

But won't be satisfied till we get some serious PAYBACK for that rotten old republican BASTARD mcconnell shovin' the handmaid down our throats DAYS before the big election.

Still hopin' that ole clarence (or even that clown alito) meets his alleged maker soon...

 

[TurtleDude]

Good to have KBJ on the court

But won't be satisfied till we get some serious PAYBACK for that rotten old republican BASTARD mcconnell shovin' the handmaid down our throats DAYS before the big election.

Still hopin' that ole clarence (or even that clown alito) meets his alleged maker soon...

this is the sort of hateful bullshit that we see from the radical left constantly.

 

[ultmd]

Reagan or the GOP? what issues was Reagan lefty on while in Office?

Seriously?

This a serious question? Or, are you too young to know anything but the tales and fables about Reagan that we see in the modern fakenews/rightwing media?

• Reagan passed THREE tax hikes in 8 years, including one that repealed much of his first (disastrous) massive tax cut.
• Reagan EXPANDED the size of the federal government MORE than any of his POTUS predecessors in the entire history of the country.
• Reagan EXPANDED (twice) the Earned Income Tax Credit, with the help of Democrats, against GOP opposition in Congress
• Reagan passed immigration reform that included the dreaded word "Amnesty"....against the opposition of most Gopers and conservatives in Congress.
• Reagan opposed the idea of a border wall and favored granting legal status for Mexican/latino immigrants who come to the southern border seeking work. Quote: "Rather than....talking about putting up a fence. Why don’t we work out some recognition of our mutual problems, make it possible for them to come here legally with a work permit, and then while they’re working and earning here, they pay taxes here? And when they want to go back, they can go back and they can cross. And open the border both ways by understanding their problems. This is the only safety valve they have with that unemployment that probably keeps the lid from blowing off down there. And I think we could have a fine relationship and it would solve the problem you mentioned also."[April 23, 1980; Houston, Texas]

What made Reagan a hero to people like you was his tried-and-true, long-standing opposition to social/racial equality (i.e. Civil Rights, Voting Rights, Fair Housing laws, Desegregation, Women's Rights, Abortion Rights, Church-State separation, etc.). He represented the white-grievance movement of the post-Civil Rights era that fantasized/romanticized about the "good old days" of pre-Civil Rights America, when black and brown people were LEGALLY second-classed citizens and all but invisible....and when women were relegated to being house-wives (and mistresses). That's why he borrowed/adopted "Make America Great Again" from his political hero (Barry Goldwater), as his campaign slogan in 1980.

It's that last part (i.e. the paragraph above).....i.e. the white-grievance and regressive social ideology..... that people like you LOVED about Ronald Reagan.

 

[Logician Man]

this is the sort of hateful bullshit that we see from the radical left constantly.

Good point about posting "hateful bullshit." Can you even begin to imagine someone from the radical right stooping so low as to refer to our Vice President as "Kamalaho" or "Kamalato" or how she "sucked Willie Browns dick to advance her political career!!?? Thank gawd no 'rightie' has posted any misogynistic "hateful bullshit" like that. Amirite, @TurtleDude ?

 

[itstony]

Good point about posting "hateful bullshit." Can you even begin to imagine someone from the radical right stooping so low as to refer to our Vice President as "Kamalaho" or "Kamalato" or how she "sucked Willie Browns dick to advance her political career!!?? Thank gawd no 'rightie' has posted any misogynistic "hateful bullshit" like that. Amirite, @TurtleDude ?

Their hypocrisy is mind blowing. All the personal attacks on the President and Vice President with vile comments. Hard to believe anyone on the right has the nerve to speak out like that.

 

[Deuce]

Their hypocrisy is mind blowing. All the personal attacks on the President and Vice President with vile comments. Hard to believe anyone on the right has the nerve to speak out like that.

Or Joe Biden insults one Fox News Nepotism Hire and suddenly they're up in arms over "unpresidential" behavior.

 

[ultmd]

most democrat judges who have been on the court of appeals longer than Jackson are arguably more qualified.

..."Arguably", huh?

Don't start waffling on me, now. Your argument that "there are DOZENS of more qualified" choices than KBJ. So....post some examples of the dozens of liberal federal judges who are (in your mind) "more qualified. My argument is that Judge KBJ is already the most qualified (academically, professionally, temperamentally, etc) nominee in recent history, and that you'll find it extremely difficult to find anyone who is more qualified than Judge KBJ.

And, MORE IMPORTANTLY.....when did length of service on the federal bench (much less academic pedigree, moral character, etc.) become important to you (and people like you)?

Amy Coney Barrett had ONLY 2 YEARS of experience as a judge.... and Clarence Thomas had LESS THAN 2 YEARS on the court....prior to being nominated for a seat on the USSC. The ONLY reason Thomas was nominated was because he was a black conservative who would replace the late, great Thurgood Marshall. And the ONLY reason Barrett was nominated was because she was a white, female conservative radical to replace the late Ruth Bader Ginsburg.

Did you express concerns about Barrett's lack of experience as a judge? Did you express concerns about the FACT that she was/is the LEAST qualified (by ALL objective measures) person to sit on the Court in the last 50 years? Of course not. Because "best qualified" is only a "concern" for people like you when the candidate is black/brown/liberal.

Everyone understands your TRUE "concerns" about KBJ. She black, she's female and she's liberal.

So are brilliant leftist legal scholars such as Yale's Amar and Stanford's Karlan.

They are more qualified, huh? Based upon......what, exactly?

Be specific, if you can.

Every single aspect of Judge KBJ's resume' argues that she is as brilliant as they come.

• -B.A. Harvard undergrad (magna cum laude)
• -J.D. Harvard Law (cum laude)
• -Harvard Law Review (Supervising Editor), chosen by faculty vote of blind submissions of legal scholarship.
• -clerked for 3 judges, at EVERY level of the state and federal judiciary, including the SCOTUS (Justice Breyer)
• -private practice 3 years
• -selected as Special Counsel to the US Sentencing Commission- 2 years
• -federal public defender for the US Court of Appeals-3 years
• -Vice Chair of the US Sentencing Commission- 5 years
• -U.S. Federal District Court Judge-8 years
• -U.S. Federal Appellate Court Judge (D.C Circuit, just below the Supreme Court in importance)-1 year
• -Supreme Court nominee, 2022

Now, your challenge is to find some of the "dozens" of examples of MORE QUALIFIED candidates than the above.

I'm still waiting.

The FACT is that the above resume' puts to shame the resumes' of almost every other CURRENT member of the Supreme Court. And it makes Thomas and Barrett look like what they are (the LEAST qualified members, by far). But again, we've seen this movie too many times to NOT recognize that......"qualifications" only matter to people like you when the candidate is black/brown.

Akhil Amar and Pamela Karlan are well-know legal scholars, but there is nothing about either of them that is "more qualified" than KBJ to sit on the USSC. Not one thing.

Truthfully, they are "more qualified" to white-grievance types like you only because they are NOT black. Isn't that right?

 

[trouble13]

NAMBLA is very pleased with this appointment. Finally they will have an advocate on the highest bench.

 

[US&THEM]

Reagan would be run out of the current GOP.

Seriously?

This a serious question? Or, are you too young to know anything but the tales and fables about Reagan that we see in the modern fakenews/rightwing media?

• Reagan passed THREE tax hikes in 8 years, including one that repealed much of his first (disastrous) massive tax cut.
• Reagan EXPANDED the size of the federal government MORE than any of his POTUS predecessors in the entire history of the country.
• Reagan EXPANDED (twice) the Earned Income Tax Credit, with the help of Democrats, against GOP opposition in Congress
• Reagan passed immigration reform that included the dreaded word "Amnesty"....against the opposition of most Gopers and conservatives in Congress.
• Reagan opposed the idea of a border wall and favored granting legal status for Mexican/latino immigrants who come to the southern border seeking work. Quote: "Rather than....talking about putting up a fence. Why don’t we work out some recognition of our mutual problems, make it possible for them to come here legally with a work permit, and then while they’re working and earning here, they pay taxes here? And when they want to go back, they can go back and they can cross. And open the border both ways by understanding their problems. This is the only safety valve they have with that unemployment that probably keeps the lid from blowing off down there. And I think we could have a fine relationship and it would solve the problem you mentioned also."[April 23, 1980; Houston, Texas]

What made Reagan a hero to people like you was his tried-and-true, long-standing opposition to social/racial equality (i.e. Civil Rights, Voting Rights, Fair Housing laws, Desegregation, Women's Rights, Abortion Rights, Church-State separation, etc.). He represented the white-grievance movement of the post-Civil Rights era that fantasized/romanticized about the "good old days" of pre-Civil Rights America, when black and brown people were LEGALLY second-classed citizens and all but invisible....and when women were relegated to being house-wives (and mistresses). That's why he borrowed/adopted "Make America Great Again" from his political hero (Barry Goldwater), as his campaign slogan in 1980.

It's that last part (i.e. the paragraph above).....i.e. the white-grievance and regressive social ideology..... that people like you LOVED about Ronald Reagan.

 

[ultmd]

we know you constantly lie about other posters because you are unable to make rational arguments

Actually, @pocket aces didn't lie....and you know it.

White-grievance is your whole, entire schtick. It's (literally) all you do. And when asked/challenged to back up your ignorant, white-grievance screeds.....it is YOU who consistently proves to be utterly incapable of making fact-based, substantive or "rational arguments".

I don't believe for a minute that even YOU are confused as to how/why people around here think you "hate black people".

Imo, the pathetic part is that while people like you spew ignorant and bigoted white-grievance rhetoric daily on this board, you all (almost to the man/woman) lack the "stones" to just own it.

 

[ultmd]

NAMBLA is very pleased with this appointment. Finally they will have an advocate on the highest bench.

Dumb comment.

QAnon inspired dumb comment.

Funny thing is....we all know that pedos, pervs and closeted gay types are overwhelmingly from your ideological wing of the spectrum.

It's (almost literally) a bug (if not a feature) of the rightwing/social conservative/family values/pseudo-Christian mentality.

 

[trouble13]

Dumb comment.

QAnon inspired dumb comment.

Funny thing is....we all know that pedos, pervs and closeted gay types are overwhelmingly from your ideological wing of the spectrum.

It's (almost literally) a bug (if not a feature) of the rightwing/social conservative/family values/pseudo-Christian mentality.

Wait till you see the ads they are gonna run during the midterms

Just mark this up as another unforced error by Biden the gaffe machine, both figuratively and literally.

 

[US&THEM]

NAMBLA is very pleased with this appointment. Finally they will have an advocate on the highest bench.

Such a disingenuous statement, Hawley is a moron, just like Cotton, it is embarrassing to watch grown men make outright bs statements simply because Joe nominated her. She is qualified and was endorsed by several law enforcement groups.

 

[Outlook]

Congrats Supreme Court Justice Jackson, well earned. You handled this process with complete dignity and grace which is more than we can say for the distractors that questioned your integrity. You'll do a great job.

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Congrats on being black and congrats on being a women even though you don't know what a women is.

 

[US&THEM]

Congrats on being black and congrats on being a women even though you don't know what a women is.

And another one.

 

[TurtleDude]

..."Arguably", huh?

Don't start waffling on me, now. Your argument that "there are DOZENS of more qualified" choices than KBJ. So....post some examples of the dozens of liberal federal judges who are (in your mind) "more qualified. My argument is that Judge KBJ is already the most qualified (academically, professionally, temperamentally, etc) nominee in recent history, and that you'll find it extremely difficult to find anyone who is more qualified than Judge KBJ.

And, MORE IMPORTANTLY.....when did length of service on the federal bench (much less academic pedigree, moral character, etc.) become important to you (and people like you)?

Amy Coney Barrett had ONLY 2 YEARS of experience as a judge.... and Clarence Thomas had LESS THAN 2 YEARS on the court....prior to being nominated for a seat on the USSC. The ONLY reason Thomas was nominated was because he was a black conservative who would replace the late, great Thurgood Marshall. And the ONLY reason Barrett was nominated was because she was a white, female conservative radical to replace the late Ruth Bader Ginsburg.

Did you express concerns about Barrett's lack of experience as a judge? Did you express concerns about the FACT that she was/is the LEAST qualified (by ALL objective measures) person to sit on the Court in the last 50 years? Of course not. Because "best qualified" is only a "concern" for people like you when the candidate is black/brown/liberal.

Everyone understands your TRUE "concerns" about KBJ. She black, she's female and she's liberal.



They are more qualified, huh? Based upon......what, exactly?

Be specific, if you can.

Every single aspect of Judge KBJ's resume' argues that she is as brilliant as they come.

• -B.A. Harvard undergrad (magna cum laude)
• -J.D. Harvard Law (cum laude)
• -Harvard Law Review (Supervising Editor), chosen by faculty vote of blind submissions of legal scholarship.
• -clerked for 3 judges, at EVERY level of the state and federal judiciary, including the SCOTUS (Justice Breyer)
• -private practice 3 years
• -selected as Special Counsel to the US Sentencing Commission- 2 years
• -federal public defender for the US Court of Appeals-3 years
• -Vice Chair of the US Sentencing Commission- 5 years
• -U.S. Federal District Court Judge-8 years
• -U.S. Federal Appellate Court Judge (D.C Circuit, just below the Supreme Court in importance)-1 year
• -Supreme Court nominee, 2022

Now, your challenge is to find some of the "dozens" of examples of MORE QUALIFIED candidates than the above.

I'm still waiting.

The FACT is that the above resume' puts to shame the resumes' of almost every other CURRENT member of the Supreme Court. And it makes Thomas and Barrett look like what they are (the LEAST qualified members, by far). But again, we've seen this movie too many times to NOT recognize that......"qualifications" only matter to people like you when the candidate is black/brown.

Akhil Amar and Pamela Karlan are well-know legal scholars, but there is nothing about either of them that is "more qualified" than KBJ to sit on the USSC. Not one thing.

Truthfully, they are "more qualified" to white-grievance types like you only because they are NOT black. Isn't that right?

how many Harvard law students graduate "cum laude" each year.

her resume is not nearly as good as most of those on the USSC. Thomas is an aberration because the dems demanded Bush I pick a black.

Kalan and Amar are once in a generation brilliant legal minds. your gushing about her resume shows you really don't understand this topic very well? How can you possibly say Barrett is the "least qualified" to sit on the court in 50 years when she was rated the best student to graduate ND in three decades? what judicial experience did Kagan have?

 

[TurtleDude]

Such a disingenuous statement, Hawley is a moron, just like Cotton, it is embarrassing to watch grown men make outright bs statements simply because Joe nominated her. She is qualified and was endorsed by several law enforcement groups.

you sort of lose any credibility your posts perhaps had by calling "Hawley a moron"

 

[vegas giants]

Congrats on being black and congrats on being a women even though you don't know what a women is.

And a scotus judge now