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[W:875] Trump administration 'looking at' suspending habeas corpus, Stephen Miller says

I initially failed to appreciate the idea that the videos are misleading because of who is hosting them
No it's because Elon musks gesture wasn't a Nazi salute. That guy was concocted by the mainstream media because they started to lose.
the absurdity provides a nice complement and contrast to the ad hom

that's a nice one
So you can't show how it's a Nazi salute.
 
No. You deport them their country figures it out. They're not citizens they're not entitled to defense attorneys provided to them by the citizens.
The constitution says they are.
No we just deport them. Making sure they go to their home country is the end of our responsibility. If you don't want to be devoted this way don't join MS 13 don't overstay your Visa and don't come here illegally problem solved. If you're in this cohort you haven't been caught in judicated maybe it's time to go back home.
 
you support trump ignoring a valid court order from scotus. that's pretty compelling.
Invalid court order.
scotus ruled 9 to 0, that even includes ultra conservatives. when everyone agrees trump violated the constitution, and trump ignores the ruling, that's truly pathetic and antiamerican.
and you support it.
There are no ultra conservatives on the supreme Court.

The supreme Court has no jurisdiction in EL Salvador.
 
No it's because Elon musks gesture wasn't a Nazi salute. That guy was concocted by the mainstream media because they started to lose.

So you can't show how it's a Nazi salute.
Hard to make that case when he's on record as a Holocaust denying fascist asshole.
 
Invalid court order.

There are no ultra conservatives on the supreme Court.

The supreme Court has no jurisdiction in EL Salvador.

invalid court order according to you? lol.
yes there are. lol. thomas and alito.

no one said scotus has jurisdiction in el salvador. why do you keep making stupid posts?

trump is refusing to obey the court order. he's a pathetic anti american, and you support him.
 
SCOTUS would issue a strong opinion, sure, but who is going to make Stephen Miller comply? He does not consider himself beholden to SCOTUS, and he holds all the cards.
Indeed, SCOTUS and the POPE have exactly the same number of divisions = None.

The comfort is that Trump has no divisions either given the armed forces hate his guts.
 
invalid court order according to you? lol.
And the Constitution as the US doesn't have jurisdiction in El Salvador.
yes there are. lol. thomas and alito.
They are very basic conservative. Like a George Bush conservative.
no one said scotus has jurisdiction in el salvador. why do you keep making stupid anti-american posts?
If they have no jurisdiction email Salvador then they can't order Donald Trump abduct one of their citizens and bring them here to be tried for God knows what
trump is refusing to obey the court order. he's a pathetic anti american, and you support him.
He has no legal ability to obey the court order.
 
Well determined to be gang members.

He doesn't. You take account of their affiliations and tattoos. It's not rocket science.
Ummm…do you understand that simply being in a gang isn’t illegal in this country? Now if you commit a crime whether in a gang or not -that’s illegal. Also not illegal: getting a tattoo of your choice and befriending whoever you choose.
 
Indeed, SCOTUS and the POPE have exactly the same number of divisions = None.

The comfort is that Trump has no divisions either given the armed forces hate his guts.
I don't think it matters, the armed forces, the FBI, CBI, the US Marshalls shall all do what Stephen Miller orders. If anyone refuses orders, he will order Donald to have them removed, then put in their place someone loyal who doesn't ask questions.
 
And the Constitution as the US doesn't have jurisdiction in El Salvador.

They are very basic conservative. Like a George Bush conservative.

If they have no jurisdiction email Salvador then they can't order Donald Trump abduct one of their citizens and bring them here to be tried for God knows what

He has no legal ability to obey the court order.

trump said he could get him back. he's refusing a court order.

Trump said last week that he “could” have Garcia returned to the United States with a phone call

trump is refusing to obey scotus. he's pathetic and anti american, and you support him
 
trump said he could get him back. he's refusing a court order.
Well no doubt Trump could ask the El Salvadorian government they would comply happily but that sends the wrong message. It would mean that 2 l of our country are an unelected appointed panel of nine and the president is just a figurehead.

You need to understand separation of powers. When it comes to international dealings the executive outranks the court
Trump said last week that he “could” have Garcia returned to the United States with a phone call
He's refusing to emphasize that the executive holds this power not the supreme Court. The supreme Court constitutional charge was never to be the supreme dictator of the country.
trump is refusing to obey scotus. he's pathetic and anti american, and you support him
No the supreme Court thinking they need to override the president in his duties is there a timer in people's who support that are as well.
 
Well no doubt Trump could ask the El Salvadorian government they would comply happily but that sends the wrong message. It would mean that 2 l of our country are an unelected appointed panel of nine and the president is just a figurehead.

You need to understand separation of powers. When it comes to international dealings the executive outranks the court

He's refusing to emphasize that the executive holds this power not the supreme Court. The supreme Court constitutional charge was never to be the supreme dictator of the country.

No the supreme Court thinking they need to override the president in his duties is there a timer in people's who support that are as well.
he said he could obey the order, but he's refusing to.
its that simple.
trump is anti-american and you support him. pathetic.
 
I don't think it matters, the armed forces, the FBI, CBI, the US Marshalls shall all do what Stephen Miller orders. If anyone refuses orders, he will order Donald to have them removed, then put in their place someone loyal who doesn't ask questions.
You've missed everything about the armed forces vs Trump and vice versa. You are wrong about the armed forces where Trump has found out he hasn't any "yes" loyalists. Not only that, you've really missed the whole thing about the armed forces vs Trump that I've been posting for years.

My summary statement is that 98.6% of Americans have no clue of their armed forces. I just filed your post in with that bunch.
 
The body of evidence requiring deportation is that you're not here legally. The absence of your legal status is all the habeas corpus necessary.

While I am always inclined to doubt Trump and his advisor's good faith, it is possible that what they are looking at is more nuanced that a blanket suspension. Migrants can have one of several status's and there may be some that are exempt and others the administration believes should not be exempt.

For example, a migrant may or may not have entered illegally. And they, even if illegal, may or may not have subsequently been given permission to temporarily stay (eg Biden's parole). In addition, many may have gotten temporary permission to stay but dodged their hearings (500,000 in last year). And illegal migrants caught within 100 miles of the border are subject to deportation immediately, but not those who escape deeper into the US.

It would be logical (but not necessarily lawful) to deny habeas status to those who entered illegally, worked illegally, and were caught. But it's not so much to those who are long time permanent residents with a clean record who have broken no law. Any removal of habeas in the latter category would surely fail in court.

Still the courts have found that, depending on circumstances, deportation is not a criminal punishment but an administrative process and solely within the purview of Congress and the President. Hence, there is room to argue that habeas may not apply as broadly as assumed.

However, as usual with Trump and his people, they love to rush in, operate outside the law, in highly irregular ways sure to create a judicial confrontation. In other words, as is typical of Trump, he'd rather pick a fight over a micro percent of the migrant population, one he is destined to lose, while ignoring what is actually needed. In short the removal of Kilmar Abrego Garcia to El Salvador was illegal, as was his use of the Alien Enemy Act was illegal. He accomplished nothing.

If you want to address how we got up to 20 million unlawful migrants in the US it is due to the failure of courts to enforce the laws we have, and a failure to demand from Congress the money necessary to enforce those laws AS written. Yes, some laws need streamlining or clarification as well, but none of this is possible when the administration wastes everyone's time making martyrs instead of proposing reform. Address those migrants who are totally illegal, address those who have committed felonies, address those that fail to appear at hearings. Identify potentially winnable court cases that might significantly change case law and improve a Presidents option.

But calling the judges communists and threatening Constitutional crisis is a losing proposition.
 
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If they were determined to be illegal aliens they have no case.
The constitution requires they they receive a hearing, and are given legal counsel
How do you advocate for someone being legally here when it's already proven they weren't
 
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