[W:875] Trump administration 'looking at' suspending habeas corpus, Stephen Miller says

[anatta]

Please stop trying to prove you cannot read.

I did not state they were not El Salvadorian. I stated they were El Salvadorians incorrectly labeled gang members and therefore imprisoned as per Trump's agreement with the El Salvadorian president.

Please open a dictionary....an illegal immigrant or undocumented immigrant is an immigrant that entered the country illegally, or
remains in the country against immigration laws. There is no necessity to call them aliens, unless you like to prove your MAGA credentials. It might be you that doesn't know the right words. You're trying to win a point by throwing a load of BS, which unfortunately is fairly typical of your postings.

I use the word "migrant" just to not inflame the issue , but federal immigration law does call them "illegal aliens"
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Sorry, but the Accurate Legal Term is 'Illegal Alien'

The College Fix is reporting that the politically correct Rutgers University student newspaper, the Daily Targum, has fired columnist Aviv Khavich for trying to use the term “illegal alien” in a column about illegal immigration. After he complained to his editor that she had changed illegal...

www.heritage.org

 

[CaughtInThe]

They really are nazi ****s!

 

[Simon W. Moon]

It's you pretty deliberate thing so there shouldn't be any interpretation necessary unless you're just lying.

You're interpreting the gesture.

How is it different for you interpret it?

I think not actually doing a Nazi salute holding your hand up while being in a disagreement with you is not enough.

Have you suddenly lost your interest in the minutia of a "proper" Nazis salute?

Show me me the Nazi salute and I'll compare it with the films of actual Nazis.

Again, I already provided a link.

You didn't you provided a link to a video that that's honest people who really really hate Elon Musk and wish to attack his character have lied about a gesture that they have misinterpreted to be a Nazi salute.

:roflmao:
You're coming at me with these lame ass excuses when
YOU DID NOT EVEN CHECK THE LINK!

It's a link to a Google search.​

:roflmao:


I am unable to help it if the entire rest of the Google-able world "really really hate Elon Musk and wish to attack his character have lied about a gesture that they have misinterpreted to be a Nazi salute."

You first.

I still have already posted the link
I will still have already posted the link in the future too.

 

[CLAX1911]

You're interpreting the gesture.

No I haven't said definitively it means something that was you.

How is it different for you interpret it?

I didn't interpret it to mean he's some sort of Nazi to the point where he'll do a Nazi salute on a public stage for everyone to see and somehow try and be secret about it that stupid and makes no sense.

 

[CLAX1911]

which court? start with the rulings about trump's deportations, the 9 0 and 7 2 rulings. its all public information.

The US Supreme Court has ruled unanimously that the Trump administration must try to release a Maryland man who was mistakenly deported to a mega-jail in El Salvador.

Supreme Court rules Trump officials must 'facilitate' release of man deported to El Salvador

The government has said Kilmar Abrego Garcia was deported in error, but has resisted returning him to the US.

www.bbc.com

In an apparent 7-2 decision, the Supreme Court ordered the administration to pause any plans to deport a group of Venezuelan men in north Texas, following a mad dash by the ACLU to prevent what it was calling a violation of due process

https://www.politico.com/news/2025/04/19/supreme-court-trump-immigration-ruling-00299717

read the rulings if you want to learn about the constitution and why trump didn't follow it, its in the rulings. so you dont look like such an anti-american here

this isn't rocket science.

The supreme Court has no jurisdiction and El Salvador. The president has no jurisdiction and In El Salvador.

Any ruling that the supreme Court gives Donald Trump about having jurisdiction in El Salvador is null and void because it's beyond their constitutional scope.


The supreme Court isn't the supreme ruler of the entire planet.

 

[phoenix2020]

I highly doubt SCOTUS will agree with him.

But

Who knows.

This is MAGA ‘Merica.

And Trump isn’t sure if his job is to uphold the Constitution - his lawyers are looking into that or some shit.

I'm not sure it matters whether or not SCOTUS agrees with him.

If Donald wants to arrest a US citizen and deny them the right to courts and due process, what's SCOTUS going to do to stop him? Issue some strong words on a piece of paper? Express deep concern, Susan Collins-style?

 

[ncguy]

The supreme Court has no jurisdiction and El Salvador. The president has no jurisdiction and In El Salvador.

Any ruling that the supreme Court gives Donald Trump about having jurisdiction in El Salvador is null and void because it's beyond their constitutional scope.


The supreme Court isn't the supreme ruler of the entire planet.

no one is saying scotus rules the planet. duh.

but scotus did rule that trump violated the constitution, and any patriot would want trump to follow the constitution.
the more you post the more anti-american you look.

 

[CLAX1911]

no one is saying scotus rules the planet. duh.

So the ruling on Donald Trump invading El Salvador to abduct one of their citizens is null and void.

but scotus did rule that trump violated the constitution, and any patriot would want trump to follow the constitution.
the more you post the more anti-american you look.

The supreme Court also ruled that a woman's right to choose isn't constitutionally protected was it right in that division too? How about when they ruled that hobby lobby didn't have to provide insurance coverage for women seeking abortions?

Are people who criticize the court for those things suddenly not really Patriots because they disagree with the Court's ruling about the Constitution?

 

[bomberfox]

which court? start with the rulings about trump's deportations, the 9 0 and 7 2 rulings. its all public information.

The US Supreme Court has ruled unanimously that the Trump administration must try to release a Maryland man who was mistakenly deported to a mega-jail in El Salvador.

Supreme Court rules Trump officials must 'facilitate' release of man deported to El Salvador

The government has said Kilmar Abrego Garcia was deported in error, but has resisted returning him to the US.

www.bbc.com

In an apparent 7-2 decision, the Supreme Court ordered the administration to pause any plans to deport a group of Venezuelan men in north Texas, following a mad dash by the ACLU to prevent what it was calling a violation of due process

https://www.politico.com/news/2025/04/19/supreme-court-trump-immigration-ruling-00299717

read the rulings if you want to learn about the constitution and why trump didn't follow it, its in the rulings. so you dont look like such an anti-american here

this isn't rocket science.

Trying to convince them of anything is pointless. They are going for a post-truth society.

 

[Tangmo]

https://www.cnbc.com/amp/2025/05/09/trump-deportation-habeas-corpus-miller.html

Fascists are gonna fascist.
This man is as physically grotesque as his Nazi adjacent ideology is.

Miller and the whole gang of MagaMerican incompetents in their Armband MagaMerica have no limits or bounds to their purposes and goals that began with immigrants in 2015.

They want to get everybody, not only undocumented immigrants.

All who dissent or simply disagree and criticize are their target. And as we are witnessing, Miller and his gang are in a hurry about it. It's the sooner the better for 'em before opponents can do much of anything to stop or reduce it.

Suspending habeas corpus means neutering the judiciary to extend it to everyone, not only undocumented aliens. By the end of this year the 2026 election will be suspended too.

 

[Roadvirus]

https://www.cnbc.com/amp/2025/05/09/trump-deportation-habeas-corpus-miller.html

Fascists are gonna fascist.
This man is as physically grotesque as his Nazi adjacent ideology is.

SCOTUS would slap this down before the ink on the paper was dry.

 

[ncguy]

So the ruling on Donald Trump invading El Salvador to abduct one of their citizens is null and void.

The supreme Court also ruled that a woman's right to choose isn't constitutionally protected was it right in that division too? How about when they ruled that hobby lobby didn't have to provide insurance coverage for women seeking abortions?

Are people who criticize the court for those things suddenly not really Patriots because they disagree with the Court's ruling about the Constitution?

no, the ruling is not null and void. what a stupid claim. lol

when a conservative scotus rules against a republican administration by a big margin, you know trump screwed up big time.
due process is a fundamental right clearly enshrined in the constitution. well, clear to patriots anyway
trump is refusing to obey a valid court order. that's pathetically anti=american
but you keep on defending trump violating the constitution, since apparently you want to keep looking anti-american.

 

[Josie]

SCOTUS would slap this down before the ink on the paper was dry.

As they should.

 

[phoenix2020]

Trying to convince them of anything is pointless. They are going for a post-truth society.

Yeah, I'm not sure why anybody bothers. @CLAX1911 already knows the score: he knows that will happen to him should he ever publicly cross Donald. He'll remain loyal and if Donald tells him that one plus one now equals three, he'll happily accept it with a smile. There is nothing that Donald can do to CLAX or anybody he cares about that would give him even the slightest cause to be disloyal, and nothing will ever change that.

The best we can do is figure out how we can take advantage of the sheer gullibility for our own benefit.

 

[bomberfox]

Yeah, I'm not sure why anybody bothers. @CLAX1911 already knows the score: he knows that will happen to him should he ever publicly cross Donald. He'll remain loyal and if Donald tells him that one plus one now equals three, he'll happily accept it with a smile. There is nothing that Donald can do to CLAX or anybody he cares about that would give him even the slightest cause to be disloyal, and nothing will ever change that.

The best we can do is figure out how we can take advantage of the sheer gullibility for our own benefit.

Apparently he knows what other members of this forum thinks.

 

[JMR]

I use the word "migrant" just to not inflame the issue , but federal immigration law does call them "illegal aliens"
details

Sorry, but the Accurate Legal Term is 'Illegal Alien'

The College Fix is reporting that the politically correct Rutgers University student newspaper, the Daily Targum, has fired columnist Aviv Khavich for trying to use the term “illegal alien” in a column about illegal immigration. After he complained to his editor that she had changed illegal...

www.heritage.org

Please forgive me for not agreeing with the Heritage Foundations' use of language. Illegal immigrants are immigrants who entered illegally, or remain in defiance of immigration law. You can refer to them as aliens all you'd like....that does not make the term illegal immigrant incorrect.

 

[phoenix2020]

SCOTUS would slap this down before the ink on the paper was dry.

SCOTUS would issue a strong opinion, sure, but who is going to make Stephen Miller comply? He does not consider himself beholden to SCOTUS, and he holds all the cards.

 

[Simon W. Moon]

No I haven't said definitively it means something that was you.

LOL

You seemed quite definitive that it was NOT a Nazi salute a moment ago.​

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Do you now think it COULD be a NAZI salute?​

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Or are you still adamant in your "non-interpretation" that it cannot be a Nazi salute?​

 

[Lycanthrope]

SCOTUS would slap this down before the ink on the paper was dry.

Would they? I'm hardly certain. And even if they did Dear Leader has already shown a willingness to ignore SCOTUS rulings he doesn't like.

Did Donald Trump defy a Supreme Court order to return Kilmar Abrego Garcia?

The Supreme Court ruled that the Trump administration must “facilitate” the return of Kilmar Abrego Garcia, who it says was wrongly deported.

news.northeastern.edu

 

[Simon W. Moon]

Trying to convince them of anything is pointless. They are going for a post-truth society.

yeah

you have to be here for the love of the game
'cause playing's all you get most times

 

[ScrambledEggs]

The body of evidence requiring deportation is that you're not here legally. The absence of your legal status is all the habeas corpus necessary.

Prove it

 

[Tangmo]

SCOTUS would slap this down before the ink on the paper was dry.

This would have to be before Trump took all the courts ink and paper away.

And turned out the lights.

Locked the place up. Until further MAGA notice.

 

[Simon W. Moon]

You didn't you provided a link to a video that that's honest people who really really hate Elon Musk and wish to attack his character have lied about a gesture that they have misinterpreted to be a Nazi salute.

I initially failed to appreciate the idea that the videos are misleading because of who is hosting them

the absurdity provides a nice complement and contrast to the ad hom

that's a nice one

 

[CLAX1911]

no, the ruling is not null and void. what a stupid claim. lol

The ruling seems to be about what happens in El Salvador.

when a conservative scotus rules against a republican administration by a big margin, you know trump screwed up big time.

So the court is infallible so then when they overturned Roe v Wade that was the correct thing to do.

due process is a fundamental right clearly enshrined in the constitution.

All the process that was due was done. I have never argued that there should be no due process.

So you are arguing against a straw man in your own mind.

well, clear to patriots anyway

When you say you can only be a patriot if someone agrees with you you are making an appeal to purity.

No true Scotsman put sugar in their porridge

but you keep on defending trump violating the constitution,

What violation of the Constitution you keep acting like that happened.

since apparently you want to keep looking anti-american.

an agree with your uniformed opinion or I am anti American? That's not really compelling.

 

[ncguy]

The ruling seems to be about what happens in El Salvador.

So the court is infallible so then when they overturned Roe v Wade that was the correct thing to do.

All the process that was due was done. I have never argued that there should be no due process.

So you are arguing against a straw man in your own mind.

When you say you can only be a patriot if someone agrees with you you are making an appeal to purity.

No true Scotsman put sugar in their porridge

What violation of the Constitution you keep acting like that happened.

an agree with your uniformed opinion or I am anti American? That's not really compelling.

you support trump ignoring a valid court order from scotus. that's pretty compelling.
scotus ruled 9 to 0, that even includes ultra conservatives, that he did't get the correct due process. your opinion that he got due process is worthless. lol

when everyone agrees trump violated the constitution, and trump ignores the ruling, that's truly pathetic and antiamerican.
and you support it.