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[W: #839] Bad news: possible 10 foot sea rise within a decade

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Chris Hayes had a segment - don't have a link - with a reporter about cracks being found in part of the arctic indicating that a section of ice looks like it will crack into the ocean within 5 years; it is holding back a glacier the size of Florida which will then have nothing keeping it from going into the sea, which would raise sea levels 10 feet. Minor sea water temperature increases from climate change of 1-2 degrees are expected to cause that to happen.

Is our culture and are our politics that broken - ours and other countries' - that we can't take the right actions? Never in the history of the world has a society knowingly done this to the planet.
 
I'm no expert (of course), but I can't think of anything that can be done is just five years to stop that from happening.

If we can determine exactly what parts of our shoreline will be underwater, then maybe we can take steps to move everything away from those areas.

Short of that, I don't know what can be done.
 
Chris Hayes had a segment - don't have a link - with a reporter about cracks being found in part of the arctic indicating that a section of ice looks like it will crack into the ocean within 5 years; it is holding back a glacier the size of Florida which will then have nothing keeping it from going into the sea, which would raise sea levels 10 feet. Minor sea water temperature increases from climate change of 1-2 degrees are expected to cause that to happen.

Is our culture and are our politics that broken - ours and other countries' - that we can't take the right actions? Never in the history of the world has a society knowingly done this to the planet.
It's too bad you don't have a link. Sometimes people reporting on something they heard or saw on their TV isn't exactly what was said or shown on the program. It would be nice to know exactly what weasel words Hayes was spouting off with.
 
LOL and here's Al Gore telling everyone that the exact same thing was gonna happen back in 2009. It seems the eco grifters say the exact same things every few years and the braindead people panic over their lies.

 
I'm no expert (of course), but I can't think of anything that can be done is just five years to stop that from happening.
You're likely right. It may very well be that there's nothing can be done to prevent this particular section from separation.
If we can determine exactly what parts of our shoreline will be underwater, then maybe we can take steps to move everything away from those areas.
Like New York City, and Florida.
 
It's too bad you don't have a link. Sometimes people reporting on something they heard or saw on their TV isn't exactly what was said or shown on the program. It would be nice to know exactly what weasel words Hayes was spouting off with.


Here you go…

The massive Thwaites glacier in West Antarctica contains enough ice to raise global sea levels by 65cm if it were to completely collapse. And, worryingly, recent research suggests that its long-term stability is doubtful as the glacier hemorrhages more and more ice.

Adding 65cm to global sea levels would be coastline-changing amounts. For context, there’s been around 20cm of sea-level rise since 1900, an amount that is already forcing coastal communities out of their homes and exacerbating environmental problems such as flooding, saltwater contamination and habitat loss.




 
Chris Hayes had a segment - don't have a link - with a reporter about cracks being found in part of the arctic indicating that a section of ice looks like it will crack into the ocean within 5 years; it is holding back a glacier the size of Florida which will then have nothing keeping it from going into the sea, which would raise sea levels 10 feet. Minor sea water temperature increases from climate change of 1-2 degrees are expected to cause that to happen.

Is our culture and are our politics that broken - ours and other countries' - that we can't take the right actions? Never in the history of the world has a society knowingly done this to the planet.
Here is the show segment you saw.
 
It's too bad you don't have a link. Sometimes people reporting on something they heard or saw on their TV isn't exactly what was said or shown on the program. It would be nice to know exactly what weasel words Hayes was spouting off with.
Weasel words, again with that? Is it becoming your pet phrase? Do you normally have fires like the one you just did in december? Tornados in december?
 
Is our culture and are our politics that broken - ours and other countries' - that we can't take the right actions? Never in the history of the world has a society knowingly done this to the planet.
No... it's just that the rest of the world just doesn't care about the decadence of the USA and Europe and the world refuses to play your "green" games... unfortunately, the West refuses to understand.
You cannot understand that the time of your dictatorship is in the past and that your "agenda" is not global.

The weather on the planet has always changed... I will tell you a secret that is hidden from you - once Antarctica was without ice at all. And in most countries of the world today they understand.

After the US lost the war to Afghanistan... in general, everyone has become indifferent to you. You can tear your hair, it doesn't bother anyone. You are already the past.
 
The weather on the planet has always changed... I will tell you a secret that is hidden from you - once Antarctica was without ice at all.
Yes and once the entire planet was covered in water. Let's not pine for the olden days when the planet was uninhabitable as a yardstick for what is acceptable in the future.
 
Understand again... you are no longer a global leader. The world, which is many times larger than Europe and the USA, does not care about you and your experiences at all.
You don't understand this world and this planet. You do not understand what the total majority of people on this planet live by and you have neither the moral right nor, most importantly, the right of FORCE to demand from someone... you've lost. The world will sort itself out without you... sit with your transgender people.
 
65 centimeters equals a bit over 2 ft. For 10 ft it would take a domino effect of the glacier pulling in surrounding glacier. It is all posited as an "if" with no suggested time frame but the following comment in the second article linked in post #7:

“So it’s critical to get a clearer picture of how the glacier will behave over the next 100 years.”

It's important to put matters so critical for our survival and quality of life into context. At the same time, doing so does not negate the fact of how serious the impact of melting glacier mass is on human habitat due to AGW. It's a fact. It's not going away. It's getting worse. We will be having to move population to get away from consequences of the impact.
 
Yes and once the entire planet was covered in water. Let's not pine for the olden days when the planet was uninhabitable as a yardstick for what is acceptable in the future.
Yes... and your opinion of the losers to the Taliban is not taken into account.
 
... the fact of how serious the impact of melting glacier mass is on human habitat due to AGW. It's a fact. It's not going away. It's getting worse...
This is how the rhetoric goes, along w/ total a void of hard numbers.

There are no records of the actual yearly average amount of liquid water on the planet, along w/ the absolute elevation (distance to the earth's center) of the average ocean's surface. We can even make it simpler by researching the entire AGW premise itself and ask what the temp of the globe is today v. what it was over the past few hundred thousand years.

The numbers aren't there and the scientific analysis is still in progress.
 
You are nothing more than a bunch of old men who are spluttering about days gone by. Moreover, the West today looks like a decrepit old man who is only ridicule.
You can drive all NATO aircraft carriers into the Black and China Seas so that their bots rub against the piers of the Russian and Chinese coasts... nobody cares about it.
The West has become a nation of divided people whose leaders are fools and a laughing stock. No one is afraid of you or respects you at all. Open a foreign press. Russian, Chinese, Indian, Brazilian, South Africa, and this is 2/3 of the world, your idealogy is made a mockery, you are losers and you cannot understand it by cooking in your own propaganda like the Soviet Union. You no longer lead this world and every day, you become outcasts on this planet that you cannot understand. You are ready to sacrifice millions and billions of lives for the sake of degrees on the planet... only you have imperceptibly approached the fact that people are ready to sacrifice you. You, the West, the new Reich, which, for the sake of degrees Celsius, began the worldwide destruction of the population... and the world will give you the answer.
 
Why is it "bad" news?

A planet without human beings would be, IMHO. a better place.
 
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This has nothing to do with Russia.
Not only to Russia, to the World.
You, fat and self-satisfied Westerners, in your arrogance and created quasi-world, do not see beyond your own nose.
Riding your Tesla, you don't care that hundreds of African children died in cobalt mines to create this car. You don't need a planet, a green lawn in the backyard.
One thing you missed, your lies are no longer valid. The world gets educated by itself... and the people of the world see how the West has robbed them. How your democracy has long been synonymous with grabbing and oligarchy. We, the people of the third World do not believe you and the majority of us, yes, we are poor, but there are more of us than you and we will destroy your Reich with degrees Celsius, because we want to live, regardless of your opinion.
You, the last generation of lies... The West will fall as a citadel of fascism and hatred for us, for the poor and ordinary people.
Live in your fat Canada and pray to your Christian god that the world you robbed will not come for you personally... for this day may come.
 
Not only to Russia, to the World.
You, fat and self-satisfied Westerners, in your arrogance and created quasi-world, do not see beyond your own nose.
Riding your Tesla, you don't care that hundreds of African children died in cobalt mines to create this car. You don't need a planet, a green lawn in the backyard.
One thing you missed, your lies are no longer valid. The world gets educated by itself... and the people of the world see how the West has robbed them. How your democracy has long been synonymous with grabbing and oligarchy. We, the people of the third World do not believe you and the majority of us, yes, we are poor, but there are more of us than you and we will destroy your Reich with degrees Celsius, because we want to live, regardless of your opinion.
You, the last generation of lies... The West will fall as a citadel of fascism and hatred for us, for the poor and ordinary people.
And a very happy new year to you as well!
 
And a very happy new year to you as well!
I think the same sarcastic thought of the white residents of South Africa somewhere in the 60s... with irony and sarcasm, congratulating the poor blacks on the new year...
our time will come. Yes, we are poor and you do not consider us to be people, we are untermensch for you, windmills and degrees Celsius are more important for you... but we will rise up.
And we on the ruins will congratulate you not on the new year, but on a new era.
 
Chris Hayes had a segment - don't have a link - with a reporter about cracks being found in part of the arctic indicating that a section of ice looks like it will crack into the ocean within 5 years; it is holding back a glacier the size of Florida which will then have nothing keeping it from going into the sea, which would raise sea levels 10 feet. Minor sea water temperature increases from climate change of 1-2 degrees are expected to cause that to happen.

Is our culture and are our politics that broken - ours and other countries' - that we can't take the right actions? Never in the history of the world has a society knowingly done this to the planet.
So pleased you’re not an alarmist.
 
Explain to me, don't you Westerners see how your world is robbing third world countries?
South and Central America, the whole of Africa, Russia and Central Asia, are occupied and occupied by Western companies. In many countries, people survive beyond reason... BECAUSE OF YOUR CAPITALIST COMPANIES.

And are you worried about degrees Celsius?

And then, when this world of slaves rises, will you wait for mercy?

You are not bothered by the tears of children dying in the mines of the Congo, but why should the impoverished world be bothered by the tears of fat supporters of the "green" world?

Think about what is more important... it will be too late very soon. For the world has already turned away from the West.
 
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