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[W:67]Lincoln-Kennedy links are proof of God

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It is easier to prove the existence of God if you think of Him less as a Creator and more as a Criminal. Circumstantial evidence puts God at the scenes of our most infamous crimes.

The synchronicity linking the assassinations of Abraham Lincoln and John F. Kennedy is circumstantial evidence of a God who arranges murders. Only God could program or “script” history so all these connections fall into place. Many of the links are well-known:

Both Lincoln and Kennedy were shot in the head from behind while sitting next to their wives. Lincoln was shot in Ford's Theater. Kennedy was shot in a Lincoln Continental made by Ford. Both presidents were accompanied by another couple and the male companion of the other couple was wounded by the assassin.

The atheist: Just a coincidence, just a coincidence, just a coincidence.

John Wilkes Booth has 15 letters. Lee Harvey Oswald has 15 letters. Booth fled from a theater to a storage facility, a tobacco barn. Oswald fled from a storage facility, a school book depository, to a theater. Both assassins were killed before they could be put on trial.

The atheist: Just a coincidence, just a coincidence, just a coincidence.

Lincoln was elected to the presidency in 1860, Kennedy in 1960. Lincoln was elected to the House of Representatives in 1846, Kennedy in 1946. Lincoln was runner-up for his party’s nomination of vice president in 1856, Kennedy in 1956.

The atheist: Just a coincidence, just a coincidence, just a coincidence.

Both presidents had vice presidents named Johnson. Andrew Johnson's name has 13 letters. Lyndon Johnson's name has 13 letters. Andrew Johnson was born in 1808. Lyndon Johnson was born in 1908.

The atheist: Just a coincidence, just a coincidence, just a coincidence.

How do we stop the atheist from sounding like a broken record (assuming you are old enough to remember what a “broken record” is)? Let’s give it one more shot.

In the 1951 movie The Tall Target, inspired by real events, Dick Powell plays a New York police detective, Sgt. John Kennedy, who boards a train to thwart a plot to kill Abraham Lincoln as he makes a pre-inaugural speech in Baltimore in February 1861. Conspirators on the train know of Kennedy's mission and plan to get him out of the way. One character tells Kennedy, "I don't know anything about a plot against Lincoln's life, but there certainly seems to be one against you."

A young man on the train, who has military training, plans to shoot Lincoln through the window of an upper floor of a building as the president-to-be gives a speech from the back of a train car. The assassin will use a rifle with "a new-fangled telescope sight." The John Kennedy in this 1951 film is discovering how the other John Kennedy will be assassinated in 1963.

The diehard atheist at this point closes his eyes, puts his hands over his ears and shouts: JUST A COINCIDENCE! JUST A COINCIDENCE! JUST A COINCIDENCE!

There’s no pleasing some people.

Albert Einstein said, “Coincidence is God's way of remaining anonymous.” The jig is up. God cannot hide anymore.
 

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It is easier to prove the existence of God if you think of Him less as a Creator and more as a Criminal. Circumstantial evidence puts God at the scenes of our most infamous crimes.

The synchronicity linking the assassinations of Abraham Lincoln and John F. Kennedy is circumstantial evidence of a God who arranges murders. Only God could program or “script” history so all these connections fall into place. Many of the links are well-known:

Both Lincoln and Kennedy were shot in the head from behind while sitting next to their wives. Lincoln was shot in Ford's Theater. Kennedy was shot in a Lincoln Continental made by Ford. Both presidents were accompanied by another couple and the male companion of the other couple was wounded by the assassin.

The atheist: Just a coincidence, just a coincidence, just a coincidence.

John Wilkes Booth has 15 letters. Lee Harvey Oswald has 15 letters. Booth fled from a theater to a storage facility, a tobacco barn. Oswald fled from a storage facility, a school book depository, to a theater. Both assassins were killed before they could be put on trial.

The atheist: Just a coincidence, just a coincidence, just a coincidence.

Lincoln was elected to the presidency in 1860, Kennedy in 1960. Lincoln was elected to the House of Representatives in 1846, Kennedy in 1946. Lincoln was runner-up for his party’s nomination of vice president in 1856, Kennedy in 1956.

The atheist: Just a coincidence, just a coincidence, just a coincidence.

Both presidents had vice presidents named Johnson. Andrew Johnson's name has 13 letters. Lyndon Johnson's name has 13 letters. Andrew Johnson was born in 1808. Lyndon Johnson was born in 1908.

The atheist: Just a coincidence, just a coincidence, just a coincidence.

How do we stop the atheist from sounding like a broken record (assuming you are old enough to remember what a “broken record” is)? Let’s give it one more shot.

In the 1951 movie The Tall Target, inspired by real events, Dick Powell plays a New York police detective, Sgt. John Kennedy, who boards a train to thwart a plot to kill Abraham Lincoln as he makes a pre-inaugural speech in Baltimore in February 1861. Conspirators on the train know of Kennedy's mission and plan to get him out of the way. One character tells Kennedy, "I don't know anything about a plot against Lincoln's life, but there certainly seems to be one against you."

A young man on the train, who has military training, plans to shoot Lincoln through the window of an upper floor of a building as the president-to-be gives a speech from the back of a train car. The assassin will use a rifle with "a new-fangled telescope sight." The John Kennedy in this 1951 film is discovering how the other John Kennedy will be assassinated in 1963.

The diehard atheist at this point closes his eyes, puts his hands over his ears and shouts: JUST A COINCIDENCE! JUST A COINCIDENCE! JUST A COINCIDENCE!

There’s no pleasing some people.

Albert Einstein said, “Coincidence is God's way of remaining anonymous.” The jig is up. God cannot hide anymore.

In no way does that prove the existence of a god. I cannot believe that you are being serious.
 

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More coincidences of life to consider...

Astrophysicist George Greenstein, in his book The Symbiotic Universe, set out “to detail what can only seem to be an astonishing sequence of stupendous and unlikely accidents that paved the way for life’s emergence. There is a list of coincidences, all of them essential to our existence.” Greenstein said the list got longer, the coincidences could not be by chance, and the thought grew that some supernatural agency was at work. “Is it possible,” he thought, “that suddenly, without intending to, we have stumbled upon scientific proof of the existence of a Supreme Being? Was it God who stepped in and so providentially crafted the cosmos for our benefit?” He felt “an intense revulsion” at such a thought and arbitrarily said: “God is not an explanation.” Yet the growing list of “coincidences” had forced the questions from him.

Another astrophysicist, Nobel prize winner Fred Hoyle, in his book The Intelligent Universe, discussed those same mysterious coincidences that troubled Greenstein: “Such properties seem to run through the fabric of the natural world like a thread of happy accidents. But there are so many of these odd coincidences essential to life that some explanation seems required to account for them.” Hoyle also agrees with Greenstein that they could not have happened by chance. Consequently, Hoyle says, ‘the origin of the universe requires an intelligence,’ ‘an intelligence on a higher plane,’ ‘an intelligence that preceded us and that was led to a deliberate act of creation of structures suitable for life.’

Einstein spoke of God but not in the sense of orthodox religion. His concept of God related to “the infinitely superior spirit” he saw revealed in nature. Timothy Ferris, in his article “The Other Einstein,” quoted Einstein as follows: “What I see in nature is a magnificent structure that we can comprehend only very imperfectly, and that must fill a thinking person with a feeling of ‘humility.’ This is a genuinely religious feeling that has nothing to do with mysticism. . . . My religiosity consists in a humble admiration of the infinitely superior spirit that reveals itself in the little that we, with our weak and transitory understanding, can comprehend of reality. . . . I want to know how God created this world. I want to know his thoughts, the rest are details.”

Guy Murchie, after discussing some of the incomprehensible mysteries of the universe, comments in his book The Seven Mysteries of Life: “It is easy to see why modern physicists, who have been pushing the frontier of knowledge into the unknown probably more profoundly than any other scientists in recent centuries, are ahead of most of their fellows in accepting that all-​encompassing mystery of the universe commonly referred to as God.”

https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/101992042?q=coincidences&p=sen
 

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It is easier to prove the existence of God if you think of Him less as a Creator and more as a Criminal. Circumstantial evidence puts God at the scenes of our most infamous crimes.
The list of differences between these two figures would stretch for miles. And yet, you ignore them all.

You're stringing together a tiny handful of random trivialities, and imbuing their pointless similarities with meaning.

If anything, the impulse to resort to such delusional thinking shows the weakness of your case. Better luck next time.
 

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Atheists aren’t the only ones who think those are coincidences.
 

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In July 2015 I borrowed from my local library a DVD titled Visions of Ireland. The 2007 program, created for public television, offers a 75-minute aerial tour of Ireland. In one scene, as the camera pans the Kennedy Arboretum in County Wexford, the narrator notes that the facility was selected to honor “our American cousin” John Fitzgerald Kennedy, whose ancestors hailed from County Wexford.

A similar reference is found in an irishamerica.com webpage titled “The American Cousin: Memories of JFK’s Trip to Ireland.”

“Our American Cousin,” of course, was the name of the play being performed at Ford’s Theater when Abraham Lincoln was assassinated. While the title refers to a boorish relative visiting an English family, the comedic play, in retrospect, seems to predict the rise of the American president who would be referred to as “our American cousin” by the Irish.
 

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It is easier to prove the existence of God if you think of Him less as a Creator and more as a Criminal. Circumstantial evidence puts God at the scenes of our most infamous crimes.

The synchronicity linking the assassinations of Abraham Lincoln and John F. Kennedy is circumstantial evidence of a God who arranges murders. Only God could program or “script” history so all these connections fall into place. Many of the links are well-known:

Both Lincoln and Kennedy were shot in the head from behind while sitting next to their wives. Lincoln was shot in Ford's Theater. Kennedy was shot in a Lincoln Continental made by Ford. Both presidents were accompanied by another couple and the male companion of the other couple was wounded by the assassin.

The atheist: Just a coincidence, just a coincidence, just a coincidence.

John Wilkes Booth has 15 letters. Lee Harvey Oswald has 15 letters. Booth fled from a theater to a storage facility, a tobacco barn. Oswald fled from a storage facility, a school book depository, to a theater. Both assassins were killed before they could be put on trial.

The atheist: Just a coincidence, just a coincidence, just a coincidence.

Lincoln was elected to the presidency in 1860, Kennedy in 1960. Lincoln was elected to the House of Representatives in 1846, Kennedy in 1946. Lincoln was runner-up for his party’s nomination of vice president in 1856, Kennedy in 1956.

The atheist: Just a coincidence, just a coincidence, just a coincidence.

Both presidents had vice presidents named Johnson. Andrew Johnson's name has 13 letters. Lyndon Johnson's name has 13 letters. Andrew Johnson was born in 1808. Lyndon Johnson was born in 1908.

The atheist: Just a coincidence, just a coincidence, just a coincidence.

How do we stop the atheist from sounding like a broken record (assuming you are old enough to remember what a “broken record” is)? Let’s give it one more shot.

In the 1951 movie The Tall Target, inspired by real events, Dick Powell plays a New York police detective, Sgt. John Kennedy, who boards a train to thwart a plot to kill Abraham Lincoln as he makes a pre-inaugural speech in Baltimore in February 1861. Conspirators on the train know of Kennedy's mission and plan to get him out of the way. One character tells Kennedy, "I don't know anything about a plot against Lincoln's life, but there certainly seems to be one against you."

A young man on the train, who has military training, plans to shoot Lincoln through the window of an upper floor of a building as the president-to-be gives a speech from the back of a train car. The assassin will use a rifle with "a new-fangled telescope sight." The John Kennedy in this 1951 film is discovering how the other John Kennedy will be assassinated in 1963.

The diehard atheist at this point closes his eyes, puts his hands over his ears and shouts: JUST A COINCIDENCE! JUST A COINCIDENCE! JUST A COINCIDENCE!

There’s no pleasing some people.

Albert Einstein said, “Coincidence is God's way of remaining anonymous.” The jig is up. God cannot hide anymore.

there not even technically coincidence their kind of unimpressive similarities
 

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In July 2015 I borrowed from my local library a DVD titled Visions of Ireland. The 2007 program, created for public television, offers a 75-minute aerial tour of Ireland. In one scene, as the camera pans the Kennedy Arboretum in County Wexford, the narrator notes that the facility was selected to honor “our American cousin” John Fitzgerald Kennedy, whose ancestors hailed from County Wexford.

A similar reference is found in an irishamerica.com webpage titled “The American Cousin: Memories of JFK’s Trip to Ireland.”

“Our American Cousin,” of course, was the name of the play being performed at Ford’s Theater when Abraham Lincoln was assassinated. While the title refers to a boorish relative visiting an English family, the comedic play, in retrospect, seems to predict the rise of the American president who would be referred to as “our American cousin” by the Irish.

You may profit from doing this on line test thingy;

https://www.psycom.net/schizophrenia-test

It is good to know your self.
 

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Ideally, one should be able to plug all the Lincoln and Kennedy variables into some probability formula and compute the odds of all these coincidences being the result of random chance, but the subjective nature of history does not make this possible.

But do we really need a calculator or an equation? When the first “21” card counter and his financial backer went to Reno, they were thrown out of every casino. The managers who expelled them didn’t know what was going on but they knew from experience and their own “gut feeling” that the blackjack winning streaks could not be explained by random chance.

We may not fully understand what is going on but we should know from experience and our own “gut feelings” that the Lincoln-Kennedy connections are a “winning streak” that cannot be attributed to random chance.
 

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My wife and I have the same initials and our mothers have the same first name.

Is this like powerball? Do I win some small god-ness for those small non-coincidences?
 

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It is easier to prove the existence of God if you think of Him less as a Creator and more as a Criminal. Circumstantial evidence puts God at the scenes of our most infamous crimes.

The synchronicity linking the assassinations of Abraham Lincoln and John F. Kennedy is circumstantial evidence of a God who arranges murders. Only God could program or “script” history so all these connections fall into place. Many of the links are well-known:

Both Lincoln and Kennedy were shot in the head from behind while sitting next to their wives. Lincoln was shot in Ford's Theater. Kennedy was shot in a Lincoln Continental made by Ford. Both presidents were accompanied by another couple and the male companion of the other couple was wounded by the assassin.

The atheist: Just a coincidence, just a coincidence, just a coincidence.

John Wilkes Booth has 15 letters. Lee Harvey Oswald has 15 letters. Booth fled from a theater to a storage facility, a tobacco barn. Oswald fled from a storage facility, a school book depository, to a theater. Both assassins were killed before they could be put on trial.

The atheist: Just a coincidence, just a coincidence, just a coincidence.

Lincoln was elected to the presidency in 1860, Kennedy in 1960. Lincoln was elected to the House of Representatives in 1846, Kennedy in 1946. Lincoln was runner-up for his party’s nomination of vice president in 1856, Kennedy in 1956.

The atheist: Just a coincidence, just a coincidence, just a coincidence.

Both presidents had vice presidents named Johnson. Andrew Johnson's name has 13 letters. Lyndon Johnson's name has 13 letters. Andrew Johnson was born in 1808. Lyndon Johnson was born in 1908.

The atheist: Just a coincidence, just a coincidence, just a coincidence.

How do we stop the atheist from sounding like a broken record (assuming you are old enough to remember what a “broken record” is)? Let’s give it one more shot.

In the 1951 movie The Tall Target, inspired by real events, Dick Powell plays a New York police detective, Sgt. John Kennedy, who boards a train to thwart a plot to kill Abraham Lincoln as he makes a pre-inaugural speech in Baltimore in February 1861. Conspirators on the train know of Kennedy's mission and plan to get him out of the way. One character tells Kennedy, "I don't know anything about a plot against Lincoln's life, but there certainly seems to be one against you."

A young man on the train, who has military training, plans to shoot Lincoln through the window of an upper floor of a building as the president-to-be gives a speech from the back of a train car. The assassin will use a rifle with "a new-fangled telescope sight." The John Kennedy in this 1951 film is discovering how the other John Kennedy will be assassinated in 1963.

The diehard atheist at this point closes his eyes, puts his hands over his ears and shouts: JUST A COINCIDENCE! JUST A COINCIDENCE! JUST A COINCIDENCE!

There’s no pleasing some people.

Albert Einstein said, “Coincidence is God's way of remaining anonymous.” The jig is up. God cannot hide anymore.

Those might be coincidences, those might be more than coincidences. We simply don't know.

There is no way to prove or disprove God. Religion is an open functional system; it does not have the power of proof.

What you have provided is supporting evidence. Other people may look at that same evidence and come to a different conclusion.

Evidence doesn't prove anything.

Attempting to prove or disprove God is committing the Circular Argument Fallacy (otherwise known as fundamentalism).
 

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It is easier to prove the existence of God…
This isn’t proof of God, it’s proof of the inter-dimensional space pixies manipulating our lives with their psychic energy waves. :cool:
 

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Does anyone have proof of the existence of a god?
 

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Ideally, one should be able to plug all the Lincoln and Kennedy variables into some probability formula and compute the odds of all these coincidences being the result of random chance, but the subjective nature of history does not make this possible.

But do we really need a calculator or an equation? When the first “21” card counter and his financial backer went to Reno, they were thrown out of every casino. The managers who expelled them didn’t know what was going on but they knew from experience and their own “gut feeling” that the blackjack winning streaks could not be explained by random chance.

We may not fully understand what is going on but we should know from experience and our own “gut feelings” that the Lincoln-Kennedy connections are a “winning streak” that cannot be attributed to random chance.
It can.
 

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It is easier to prove the existence of God if you think of Him less as a Creator and more as a Criminal. Circumstantial evidence puts God at the scenes of our most infamous crimes.

The synchronicity linking the assassinations of Abraham Lincoln and John F. Kennedy is circumstantial evidence of a God who arranges murders. Only God could program or “script” history so all these connections fall into place. Many of the links are well-known:

Both Lincoln and Kennedy were shot in the head from behind while sitting next to their wives. Lincoln was shot in Ford's Theater. Kennedy was shot in a Lincoln Continental made by Ford. Both presidents were accompanied by another couple and the male companion of the other couple was wounded by the assassin.

The atheist: Just a coincidence, just a coincidence, just a coincidence.

John Wilkes Booth has 15 letters. Lee Harvey Oswald has 15 letters. Booth fled from a theater to a storage facility, a tobacco barn. Oswald fled from a storage facility, a school book depository, to a theater. Both assassins were killed before they could be put on trial.

The atheist: Just a coincidence, just a coincidence, just a coincidence.

Lincoln was elected to the presidency in 1860, Kennedy in 1960. Lincoln was elected to the House of Representatives in 1846, Kennedy in 1946. Lincoln was runner-up for his party’s nomination of vice president in 1856, Kennedy in 1956.

The atheist: Just a coincidence, just a coincidence, just a coincidence.

Both presidents had vice presidents named Johnson. Andrew Johnson's name has 13 letters. Lyndon Johnson's name has 13 letters. Andrew Johnson was born in 1808. Lyndon Johnson was born in 1908.

The atheist: Just a coincidence, just a coincidence, just a coincidence.

How do we stop the atheist from sounding like a broken record (assuming you are old enough to remember what a “broken record” is)? Let’s give it one more shot.

In the 1951 movie The Tall Target, inspired by real events, Dick Powell plays a New York police detective, Sgt. John Kennedy, who boards a train to thwart a plot to kill Abraham Lincoln as he makes a pre-inaugural speech in Baltimore in February 1861. Conspirators on the train know of Kennedy's mission and plan to get him out of the way. One character tells Kennedy, "I don't know anything about a plot against Lincoln's life, but there certainly seems to be one against you."

A young man on the train, who has military training, plans to shoot Lincoln through the window of an upper floor of a building as the president-to-be gives a speech from the back of a train car. The assassin will use a rifle with "a new-fangled telescope sight." The John Kennedy in this 1951 film is discovering how the other John Kennedy will be assassinated in 1963.

The diehard atheist at this point closes his eyes, puts his hands over his ears and shouts: JUST A COINCIDENCE! JUST A COINCIDENCE! JUST A COINCIDENCE!

There’s no pleasing some people.

Albert Einstein said, “Coincidence is God's way of remaining anonymous.” The jig is up. God cannot hide anymore.


Lincoln was killed by a hand gun, Kennedy by a rifle.

The theist says "Oh that one doesn't count"


Lincoln was stationary in a theater, Kennedy was moving in a car
Lincoln was born in 1809, Kennedy in 1917
Lincoln's was was called Mary and they had 4 children, Kennedy's wife was called Jackie and they had 3 children
Lincoln served in the militia, Kennedy in the navy

Am I missing the point ?
 

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You may profit from doing this on line test thingy;

https://www.psycom.net/schizophrenia-test

It is good to know your self.

Despite your patronizing reference to mental illness, the pursuit of “meaningful coincidences” has a credible background, as noted in this book blurb:

Carl Jung coined the term "synchronicity" to describe meaningful coincidences that conventional notions of time and causality cannot explain. Working with the great quantum physicist Wolfgang Pauli, Jung sought to reveal these coincidences as phenomena that involve mind and matter, science and spirit, thus providing rational explanations for parapsychological events like telepathy, precognition, and intuition.

Amazon lists more than 1,000 books with references to synchronicity.

If synchronicity points to patterns and design, then it is only a small step to suggest that a Designer creates patterns evident in synchronicity.
 

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Lincoln was killed by a hand gun, Kennedy by a rifle.

The theist says "Oh that one doesn't count"


Lincoln was stationary in a theater, Kennedy was moving in a car
Lincoln was born in 1809, Kennedy in 1917
Lincoln's was was called Mary and they had 4 children, Kennedy's wife was called Jackie and they had 3 children
Lincoln served in the militia, Kennedy in the navy

Am I missing the point ?

A card counter doesn't have to win every time, only enough times to prove that blackjack is not truly a random game of chance.
 

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Despite your patronizing reference to mental illness, the pursuit of “meaningful coincidences” has a credible background, as noted in this book blurb:

Carl Jung coined the term "synchronicity" to describe meaningful coincidences that conventional notions of time and causality cannot explain. Working with the great quantum physicist Wolfgang Pauli, Jung sought to reveal these coincidences as phenomena that involve mind and matter, science and spirit, thus providing rational explanations for parapsychological events like telepathy, precognition, and intuition.

Amazon lists more than 1,000 books with references to synchronicity.

If synchronicity points to patterns and design, then it is only a small step to suggest that a Designer creates patterns evident in synchronicity.
lol

Jung was... an eccentric, to put it mildly, and his ideas haven't held up to scientific scrutiny. His work has some value, but you cannot simply say "synchronicity!" and, on that basis, declare that a connection actually exists.

Examples of "synchronicity" are more appropriately labeled as examples of apophenia, which is when you mistakenly draw connections between events or processes that are unrelated and/or random. In other words, it's a false insight based on an erroneous detection of a pattern that doesn't actually exist. What you're doing in this very post is a perfect example of apophenia.

Seriously, dude, nothing you're posting here is even remotely rational.
 

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...

If synchronicity points to patterns and design, then it is only a small step to suggest that a Designer creates patterns evident in synchronicity.
Don't mind the cranky skepticism, Robert. You and Jung are on to something in synchronicity. As Shakespeare's Hamlet puts it: "There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, than are dreamt of in your philosophy." This is true. Skeptical materialists have given up on understanding the universe with their materialist assumption.
 

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A card counter doesn't have to win every time, only enough times to prove that blackjack is not truly a random game of chance.

So it really is all a matter of chance ?


Then where is the divine intervention ?
 

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So it really is all a matter of chance ?


Then where is the divine intervention ?

I think Rob asserted quite literally the opposite...
 

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So it really is all a matter of chance ?


Then where is the divine intervention ?
I think Rob asserted quite literally the opposite...
Yes, Robert used card counting as an analogy for hidden action behind the scenes that we do not understand but get a "gut feeling" about. Rich misread the analogy.
 

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Re: Lincoln-Kennedy links are proof of God

Lincoln was killed by a hand gun, Kennedy by a rifle.

The theist says "Oh that one doesn't count"

Lincoln was stationary in a theater, Kennedy was moving in a car
Lincoln was born in 1809, Kennedy in 1917
Lincoln's was was called Mary and they had 4 children, Kennedy's wife was called Jackie and they had 3 children
Lincoln served in the militia, Kennedy in the navy

Am I missing the point ?

What is your point? That God is responsible for coincidences, or that he's responsible for those occurrences that aren't similar?
 

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Re: Lincoln-Kennedy links are proof of God

Despite your patronizing reference to mental illness, the pursuit of “meaningful coincidences” has a credible background, as noted in this book blurb:

Carl Jung coined the term "synchronicity" to describe meaningful coincidences that conventional notions of time and causality cannot explain. Working with the great quantum physicist Wolfgang Pauli, Jung sought to reveal these coincidences as phenomena that involve mind and matter, science and spirit, thus providing rational explanations for parapsychological events like telepathy, precognition, and intuition.

Amazon lists more than 1,000 books with references to synchronicity.

If synchronicity points to patterns and design, then it is only a small step to suggest that a Designer creates patterns evident in synchronicity.

Try taking the test.

Are you somebody who understands stuff the rest of us don't?

If so do you have any sort of reason to think that this is reasonable for you to be in that position? I speak from such a position, I am working on my invention of a new wind turbine design so that may put me in the position of being guilty of it. But then again the turbine works. I have put my idea to the test of nature.

What test have you subjected your idea to?
 
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