[W;622]Please... Be honest. Do you really think a second impeachment is good for the country?

[cabse5]

Why did they attack the capitol?

I can guess they thought the election was stolen. I can also guess that these general lockdowns and mask wearings, for example, cost them their personal livelihoods. I can also guess they had frustration for the fascist Pelosi who was bent on not doing the people's business but, rather, punishing Trump for speaking out against socialism.

 

[Aunt Antifa]

I can guess they thought the election was stolen. I can also guess that these general lockdowns and mask wearings, for example, cost them their personal livelihoods. I can also guess they had frustration for the fascist Pelosi who was bent on not doing the people's business but, rather, punishing Trump for speaking out against socialism.

Why would they think the election was stolen? Who gave them that idea?

 

[cabse5]

No it doesnt. So no evidence. Thanks

Blame your teacher for not being able to think abstractly. Teachers don't teach students to think for themselves. Rather, teachers teach students to be sponges of their propaganda.

 

[cabse5]

Why would they think the election was stolen? Who gave them that idea?

All the irregularities in this election also gave them an idea this election was stolen.

 

[vegas giants]

Blame your teacher for not being able to think abstractly. Teachers don't teach students to think for themselves. Rather, teachers teach students to be sponges of their propaganda.

It's not about me. So no evidence. Thanks

 

[cabse5]

It's not about me. So no evidence. Thanks

There's no evidence for you, for one, 'cause you can't think abstractly. Like I said, blame your teacher for not teaching you how to think abstractly.

 

[vegas giants]

There's no evidence for you, for one, 'cause you can't think abstractly. Like I said, blame your teacher for not teaching you how to think abstractly.

It's not about me. When your argument fails you.make it personal.

So no evidence. Thanks

 

[roughdraft274]

Keeping him protected does absolutely nothing to keep that knowledge protected though. He would sell it to the top bidder in a heartbeat once he realizes the damage it may do and the money he could make.

I don't think you're wrong.

 

[Sand Castle]

Stand back and stand bye. You'll see plenty of evidence at the Senate hearing.

And that is the Lefts real motivation.

Expose trump the fraud without him and his psychophants obstructing justice.

With actual witnesses and real testimony, a good chance some still in doubt, will see evidence that trump is indeed a corrupt fraud.

 

[bullseyelqcs]

Well then you could say Kamala incited the left to kill two dozen people in 2020s nightly leftwing riots when she said “the protests will continue. They should continue”

Do you even understand the words you just typed? The word protest vs the word riot is something you should research.

Im not mad at the vast majority of the people who were there on the 6th. Most of them were indeed just protesting and making some noise. If one breached the gates and entered the Capitol, they lose that standing with me. Even if you went out of morbid curiousity to see if anyone would actually go as far as some had claimed they would, you would still be liable to me, as your very presence made it more difficult for the officers to separate the wheat from the chaff. I read somewhere that the guess is only around 1000 people actually entered the Capitol. Ill concede that probably only 100 of them actually went in there with seditious intent....but that means that the other 900 at a minimum made it easier for those 100 to blend in longer, and at worst it could be claimed that without the assistance of the other 900, the 100 actual offenders wouldnt have had the numbers to breach the gates in the first place.

 

[eohrnberger]

Indeed, as the Trump successes keep rolling in, I'm literally tired of winning. THESE are the good old days. The country is perfect. The only thing that could make things even better would be a stolen election and a "president for life." Oh well. Something to strive for.

Meh. There are quite a number of things Trump accomplished. Just never heard about them in because of the constant stream of attacks.

 

[nota bene]

Seriously? The guy is in charge of our nuclear weapons, our military forces, and he has pardon powers. I think the first two are going to be kept in check by his staff and the military brass, respectively. But the last one can do damage if he wanted. But impeaching him helps to at least potentially limit that.

You do realize his power doesn't lie in twitter, being the President, right?

You do realize, don't you, that there is no need for patronizing snark, right?

But so we're clear, you think that there is a chance Trump will press the nuclear button? Really?

 

[Cope]

No. But then again, Trump and his more rabid supporters going unpunished, is worse.

I think this is the mindset of hypocrisy.

Here is why:

Today it's their ox being gored and we want PUNISHMENT
Tomorrow , it's our ox being gored and we want a second chance.

This country is divided; you can stand up, be the adult in the room and be gracious, or you can throw the tantrum that is very public at this point and demand punishment (which you are very likely not getting) and use up political capitol doing so.

Honestly this has been the way of the Democrats for a long long time and is (in my mind) a primary reason why they don't win more elections. Not that the Republicans are any better, but they are certainly better at hiding it.

 

[Cope]

Trump absolutely tried to kill Pence. He riled the crowd and set them on their way to hang the guy.

Bridge too far, and the primary reason that punishment won't come.

I know its tough for those who dearly want punishment, but punishment requires proof, lots of it.

What we currently have is a subjective reading of some posts ...

 

[roguenuke]

You do realize, don't you, that there is no need for patronizing snark, right?

But so we're clear, you think that there is a chance Trump will press the nuclear button? Really?

I think there is a chance that he will wrongly, although still within his powers to do so, pardon some of his family members and/or administration and other allies. That is what worries me. But I do believe Trump is absolutely capable of a particular mindset that does not like to lose to the point where anything is possible.

And the patronizing snark was due to the attempt to try to trivialize the powers of the President to twitter access having any actual impact on them.

 

[Mongidig]

The fascist says, 'Let me repress 'the bad guys' and everything will be fine.'

It's amazing how many people are supporting the bad guy's.

 

[trixare4kids]

Why did they attack the capitol?

You'll have to ask them.

 

[Aunt Antifa]

You'll have to ask them.

So you’ll defend their actions but at a loss for words as to why. Gotcha.

 

[Linuxcooldude]

No, I'm talking about a Seditious conspiracy...

If two or more persons in any State or Territory, or in any place subject to the jurisdiction of the United States, conspire to overthrow, put down, or to destroy by force the Government of the United States, or to levy war against them, or to oppose by force the authority thereof, or by force to prevent, hinder, or delay the execution of any law of the United States, or by force to seize, take, or possess any property of the United States contrary to the authority thereof, they shall each be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than twenty years, or both.

Well, that pretty much puts all those BLM rioters who attacked those federal buildings in jail too.

 

[Linuxcooldude]

View attachment 67313408

Hillary Clinton’s concession speech full transcript: 2016 presidential election

"We have still not shattered that highest and hardest glass ceiling."

www.vox.com

And all this time we thought Trump was handling his election loss *differently* than previous failed candidates. What wuz we thinkin!

Apparently you never read her book..." Why I lost".

 

[Aunt Antifa]

Apparently you never read her book..." Why I lost".

So her concession is right there in the title of the book?

Trump still hasn’t conceded.

 

[OlNate]

That's not what I implied. . I said Trumpism isn't going away and happened to mention why, invoking what Nikki Haley warned the GOP of today. His base is still with the idea of Trumpism even if he's not the guy. News flash: Every party wants to win, and keep winning. There's no secret there.
IMO, Haley is true contender for 2024 because she actually understands his base isn't going away.

But, Trix, I used your logic - I even used your words.

I feel like you might be getting trapped up in your own rhetoric a little.

Ah well...complicated times, I guess. In the meantime, I'll hope that the four year time out gives American conservatives the opportunity to cool down and reflect on the shit show they enabled, in an effort to decide if they want a rerun. In the end, since critical thinking is a thing of the past, it'll no doubt come down to which party's propaganda machine is most effective in convincing the American people of what they want, so I suppose it's anyone's guess.

 

[ultmd]

Authoritarian??? In what way? I am going to guess you dont know because you are just aping what you heard on tv.

....attempted intellectual disrespect....from a Trumpster. Bless your heart. Why do you people still do this?

Trumpism is, literally by definition, both Authoritarian and Fascist, as a matter of fact.

Do you even understand those terms, my under-educated friend? It's a waste of time discussion issues when only one sides understands them.

I'll help you out. Consider this my little primer, just for you. But I suggest you educate yourself further before responding.

In general, an authoritarian:

• -demonstrates a weak, or indifferent allegiance to democratic institutions and basic democratic norms (i.e. ignoring Congressional subpoenas, giving national security clearance to family and friends who FAILED clearance checks, ignoring the Emoluments clause, ignoring federal court rulings that conflict with his policy agenda, separating babies from immigrant parents, babies in cages, etc. etc. etc.)
• -denies the legitimacy of his political opponents (i.e. Birtherism, "Lock her up!", "I won this election in a landslide!", etc., etc.)
• -promotes violence against his political opponents (i.e. last week's COUP attempt at the Capital.....every MAGA rally of 2016, etc.)

In general, fascist regimes exhibit traits such as:

• -extreme, false patriotism, typically promoted by mottos (MAGA) and false flags ("Don't Tread on Me", Confederate flag, etc)
• -total disregard for human rights (i.e. Trump border policy, etc.)
• -Demonization of racial/religious minorities
• -Identification of the political opposition as "the enemy"
• -blending/combining political ideology with religion
• -economic policy dictated by corporate interests (i.e. Corporatism), combined with anti-labor policies
• -a general disdain for higher education, the arts, professional/intellectual expertise, etc.

I could go on, but why? The examples would be, quite literally, too numerous to list in a single post.

Trump and the Trump regime, by my standard (and by those of any other educated person), meets any functional definition of BOTH Fascism and Authoritarianism. That is simply not arguable, even by a delusional Trump acolyte.

 

[Rosie1]

I'm not crazy about impeaching Trump again. I'd rather concentrate on getting everyone vaccinated before anything else. But, I think Trump has proven to us that he is dangerous. The process is necessary to mandate that he never runs for public office again.

 

[Cope]

I'm not crazy about impeaching Trump again. I'd rather concentrate on getting everyone vaccinated before anything else. But, I think Trump has proven to us that he is dangerous. The process is necessary to mandate that he never runs for public office again.

There are better things to do, but I could go either way IF there was a real reason to do so. Currently what we have are SUBJECTIVE readings of some twitter feed ... That ain't gonna cut it to get a conviction so IMO, it's a waste of time.

There is no real reason to impeach Trump since he is out on his ass in a few days. It's impotent rage at this point and wasted political capital, not to mention time. Him running for office again ever is a pipe dream.