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[W:5949][W:1030]***Official January 6 Public Hearings Thread***

Republican didn't "refuse" anything. Nancy Pelosi appointed them.


"The panel comprises seven Democrats and two Republicans all appointed by House Speaker Nancy Pelosi. She previously rejected several GOP members originally selected for the panel by House Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy — Rep. Jim Banks of Indiana and Rep. Jim Jordan of Ohio — citing "statements and actions" made by the pair that she felt would "impact the integrity of the committee." Both Banks and Jordan had publicly expressed concerns over the panel itself."
The members of the current committee are irrelevant, because that all came after what I was talking about.

On 5/14/21 they reached a bipartisan deal:

On 5/28/21 Republicans ran the other direction like cowards:

It was only after that that the Dems had to do their own committee, which is what you're talking about now with Nancy's appointments.
 
Trump raging (largely to himself) on his Truth Social. Still stroking the Big Lie:


“The so-called ‘Rush on the Capitol’ was not caused by me, it was caused by a Rigged and Stolen Election!” he fumed.

No one does TDS like Trump himself.
 
Republicans voted against having an independent investigation. You've fallen for their trap. They wanted you to have exactly this reaction. Congrats.
Translation: Your third failed attempt at trying to implicate Trump is blowing up in your face again, and you're grasping at everything in desperation.

You've lost. Again.
 
Come on, man! House Republicans had their chance to be part of this and refused. House Democrats gave them EVERYTHING they wanted and Minority Leader McCarthy balked.

Now, lets’ be honest.

Pelosi wasn’t going to seat the bomb throwers and cranks that McCarthy lined up.

Gym Jordan wasn‘t named.

But he can answer a subpoena!
 
Well, I'm used to watching non-political trials where each side makes their own argument. This is like the Johnny Depp/Amber Heard case but with only the Johnny Depp side speaking. I guess that's how the political process goes, though.
you republicans had your chance to be part of this committee. In fact, you had some there in the committee.
 
Translation: Your third failed attempt at trying to implicate Trump is blowing up in your face again, and you're grasping at everything in desperation.

You've lost. Again.
No, that was a legitimate response to the idiotic claim that this whole commission is a partisan witch hunt. A favorite talking point that the spineless party-over-country Republicans ensured their low-info voters would have.
 
Fact - the 2020 election was fiction perpetrated by Democrats.

Fact - Pelosi and Schumer both rejected Trumps approval of National Guard troops.

Fact - Schumer rejected them again on Jan4.

Fact - the capitol police are controlled by Pelosi.

Fact - it took minutes for the Democrats to invoke slavery

Fact - the political prisoners are being held in solitary confinement for 18 months without charges or discovery.


Actually, the only “FACT” in your list that’s true is that the Capitol police report to the Speaker.

Trump never offered National Guard troops, and refused to do so once his riot started. In fact, he never did.

I have no idea which trashy blog or Guy on the Internet, you got the solitary confinement nonsense from. Not that it matters. The Committee hasn’t arrested anyone, which makes your point false.

Capitalizing Fact does not a fact make.
 
Fact - the 2020 election was fiction perpetrated by Democrats.

Fact - Pelosi and Schumer both rejected Trumps approval of National Guard troops.

Fact - Schumer rejected them again on Jan4.

Fact - the capitol police are controlled by Pelosi.

Fact - it took minutes for the Democrats to invoke slavery

Fact - the political prisoners are being held in solitary confinement for 18 months without charges or discovery.


Fact - Trump lost. Get over it. Run someone better next time.
 
Again, small minds aren’t capable of understanding the scope and scale involved in such a coup. The Proud Boys and Oath Keepers barely scratch the surface. This conspiracy involved elements of the DOJ, Capitol Police, Secret Service, and United States Military. A subject that is off limits to this committee.
What do the Proud Boys, Oath Keepers, and the other organizations you list with no evidence have in common? What is their shared goal in the Jan 6 insurrection?
Why would corruption in the DOJ, SS, Capitol Police or military (of which you provide no evidence) be off limits to the committee?
 
Again, small minds aren’t capable of understanding the scope and scale involved in such a coup. The Proud Boys and Oath Keepers barely scratch the surface. This conspiracy involved elements of the DOJ, Capitol Police, Secret Service, and United States Military. A subject that is off limits to this committee.

Sounds terrible. Can we see the proof of all of this?
 
They? The witch hunters? Those who will not introduce Nancy Pelosi's correspondence refusing the National Guard?
Pelosi and Mitch McConnell had joint responsibility--to some extent--for security in the capitol. Why all the focus on Pelosi and none on McConnell? (We already know, don't we).
 
"Have they set a date yet for prime time hearings on the riots that left 19 dead,2,000 officers injured,97 police cars burned,over 600 acts of arson,2300 acts of looting & over $2 billion in property damage?"



LOL … the trump thugs/terrorists literally tried to DESTROY our democracy on the hallowed grounds of an iconic democratic institution.

And the violent/criminal right-wing dopes were energized by LIES and baseless conspiracy theories about a stolen election from some filthy, corrupt con man and his pathetic sycophants in DC and right-wing media.

little marco is trying to compare a game at the local little league to Game 7 of the World Series.

And FAILING miserably...
 
LOL … the trump thugs/terrorists literally tried to DESTROY our democracy on the hallowed grounds of an iconic democratic institution.

And the violent/criminal right-wing dopes were energized by LIES and baseless conspiracy theories about a stolen election from some filthy, corrupt con man and his pathetic sycophants in DC and right-wing media.

little marco is trying to compare a game at the local little league to Game 7 of the World Series.

And FAILING miserably...

I am hugely disappointed in Senator Rubio. I was a HUGE Rubio girl in 2016. Worked on his campaign, met him a few times, etc.

He's turned out to be a spineless idiotic simpering Trump Panty Sniffer.
 
Again, small minds aren’t capable of understanding the scope and scale involved in such a coup. The Proud Boys and Oath Keepers barely scratch the surface. This conspiracy involved elements of the DOJ, Capitol Police, Secret Service, and United States Military. A subject that is off limits to this committee.

You believe in faerie tales.
 
QFT......

No one is is paying attention to this manufactured drivel.

However, they are paying attention to the highest inflation rate in 40 years.

Minorities are flocking to the GOP in droves. Hispanics especially, and Democrats are in full panic.

These silly diversionary tactics don't work when real-life Democrat policies are destroying American lives daily in their pocketbooks.

Democrats got their revolution. It's just backwards from what they intended.

......this is the type of stuff trump republicans would be screeching about on prime time TV during the hearings, if they had "their way".
 
Capitol police needs to review its use of force policies. Attempted breach of the US capitol needs to be met with machine guns, not batons.

Twenty four cannons positioned around the exterior wouldn't be a bad idea either.

Yeah I know, some will upset at the thought of large armaments around the Capitol but those are the same people who whined about the security fence being put up after the insurrection.
I think that security fence should be permanent, too.

Make every person, including lawmakers, run the gauntlet every day as a reminder.
You can even put memorial plaques along the route so every twenty feet or so people will get a presentation of the events of J6 as they happened.

Capitol Barbed Wire Fence 2270.jpg
 
Do you want to shoot into a crowd of angry rednecks?

Not with one or two police pistols, no.
If these groups are so convinced that the Capitol is a soft easy target, time to harden the target.
Start with cannons and work from there.
 
Translation: Your third failed attempt at trying to implicate Trump is blowing up in your face again, and you're grasping at everything in desperation.

President Trump's seven-part plan to overturn the 2020 election and prevent the transition of presidential power.
  1. President Trump engaged in a massive effort to spread false and fraudulent information to the American public claiming the 2020 election was stolen from him.
  2. President Trump corruptly planned to replace the Acting Attorney General, so that the Department of Justice would support his fake election claims.
  3. President Trump corruptly pressured Vice President Pence to refuse to count certified electoral votes in violation of the US Constitution and the law.
  4. President Trump corruptly pressured state election officials, and state legislators, to change election results.
  5. President Trump's legal team and other Trump associates instructed Republicans in multiple states to create false electoral slates and transmit those slates to Congress and the National Archives.
  6. President Trump summoned and assembled a violent mob in Washington and directed them to march on the US Capitol.
  7. As the violence was underway, President Trump ignored multiple pleas for assistance and failed to take immediate action to stop the violence and instruct his supporters to leave the Capitol.
 
While Jan 6 - and many other abuses - SHOULD bar Trump from being able to run again, I do not think this hearing will do anything to impact it's likelihood. :-/
I expect not

Its important the facts are laid out in a clinical manner. History will be very unkind to Trump, and his enablers.
 
It does look like a "dog and pony show". How can anyone expect a fair representation of the facts when every single member of the committee has a shared hatred of Trump?

"Let's refuse to participate and then blame it on being partisan."

Its kind of obvious. However, all the people who we heard testimony from last night worked for Trump. They don't hate him.
 
President Trump's seven-part plan to overturn the 2020 election and prevent the transition of presidential power.
  1. President Trump engaged in a massive effort to spread false and fraudulent information to the American public claiming the 2020 election was stolen from him.
  2. President Trump corruptly planned to replace the Acting Attorney General, so that the Department of Justice would support his fake election claims.
  3. President Trump corruptly pressured Vice President Pence to refuse to count certified electoral votes in violation of the US Constitution and the law.
  4. President Trump corruptly pressured state election officials, and state legislators, to change election results.
  5. President Trump's legal team and other Trump associates instructed Republicans in multiple states to create false electoral slates and transmit those slates to Congress and the National Archives.
  6. President Trump summoned and assembled a violent mob in Washington and directed them to march on the US Capitol.
  7. As the violence was underway, President Trump ignored multiple pleas for assistance and failed to take immediate action to stop the violence and instruct his supporters to leave the Capitol.

But you hate Trump, so how can any of this be true?
 
trump didn't ask Pelosi for the National Guard.

The committee proved last night that trump never asked her to call the National Guard.

They presented proof of it.

Yet the trump people present no proof trump asked Pelosi for the National Guard.

On top of that, trump doesn't need to ask her to do that. trump is authorized to do it. Why didn't he?

Why was it pence who made the calls and not trump?

trump never, not once asked anyone, much less Pelosi, for the National Guard.
What was Trump doing on Jan 6 for those 3 hours and some minutes? We need to see phone logs, visitor logs, staff depositions, and telephone transcripts.

All laid out, let the people decide.

Trump fought one hell of a legel fight to keep records from the committee, that alone is not the way we do things. Demand transparency, don't let the truth be buried in the false narrative.
 
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