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[W:592] How is being kind and inclusive a bad thing? Aren't those things objectively good?

Is it fundamental good to be open-minded, inclusive, and kind to others?

  • No, we should only be good to people who think and act like me.

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Let me provide some examples from our MAGA friends in the media:

Yesterday, the latest version of Superman came out. Audiences and critics are absolutely loving the film. James Gunn, the writer and director of the movie, said that Superman is an immigrant and his film is about being nice to each other. This theme doesn't sit well with Fox News and the right-wing media. As you can see in the link (watch it for the full context), the right-wing views this as "being woke" and promoting "illegal immigration". Note: Gunn never said anything about illegal immigration, just that the story of America is an immigrant one. The "illegal" part was made up.

There's a youtube channel called Jubilee, where they ask mostly young Americans about their views on a host of topics. If one of their videos, they asked people to blindly determine whether somebody is a Republican or Democrat. Amala, their right-wing representative, kept on asking people if they are "open-minded". If they said yes, then she immediately viewed them as a Democrat.

Recently on Capital Hill, Congresswoman Sara Jacobs told Pete Hegseth about three courageous women serving in our armed services. She points to their high remarks from commanding officers and how they have gone to beyond expectation and served with dignity. Hegseth then praised these three women for their services and dedication to America. Jacobs then told Hegseth these three women, who he highly praised, are transgender and you want to kick them out. Hegseth looked shocked and then commented on how "these are men pretending to be women".

So my question for the group is, how can being kind, open-minded, and inclusive be considered "bad"? Aren't these objectively good? Don't we want to be accepting and value about diverse culture? Or this there a real virtue for being closed-opened and being mean to each other?
 
Conservatives have figured out that people who feel disconnected from society get a sense of empowerment when they can direct their frustration towards the "others".
And they've set up their messaging to be addictive which is why there are a lot of people on here who keep posting the same garbage links and tropes over and over even after they've been proven to be incorrect.
And that all leads to votes and power for conservatives.
 
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Agreed. I don't understand why people would oppose discrimination and racism once they've been rebranded as kindness and inclusion. It's like they don't understand the transformative magic of euphemisms.
I don't understand why conservatives feel attacked at the idea of inclusion and kindness.
 
Wow the level of non-thinking in that post might have reached an all time high!

Are you calling this "SQUIRREL" reasoning? The level of distraction is like a distracted dog.

Superman came out....
I watched a YouTube video...
Also a Congressional Rep said something.....

Thus.....conclusion?!?!?!

That's next level bad thinking.

So my question for the group is, how can being kind, open-minded, and inclusive be considered "bad"?

Yes they can be considered bad.



So does the political left give a fair and impartial hearing to the intellectual opposition? No they don't. They like the label of openminded bu they don't practice that.

However the reason most people are less open is because with wisdom often comes skepticism. Sure you'd love to be open minded and just believe your co-worker is especially clumsy when it comes to stairs and daily activities but you'd prefer to be less open minded and consider the fact her spouse just might be abusing her instead.

Inclusiveness as a value obviously has limits. Some inclusion is good, like women being allowed into sports. Other inclusion is bad like penises in a women's locker room.
 
I don't understand why conservatives feel attacked at the idea of inclusion and kindness.

This is but the tip of the iceberg on things you don't understand.
 

"A wise man changes his mind, a fool never will."
 
Agreed. I don't understand why people would oppose discrimination and racism once they've been rebranded as kindness and inclusion. It's like they don't understand the transformative magic of euphemisms.



When You’re Accustomed to Privilege, Equality Feels Like Oppression
source unknown.

 
Ok, let's deal with this head on:

I have long stated that Righties are the most insecure whiners on the planet. Black mermaid, Hispanic Snow White, Woke Superman. Seriously?

What is it with this lot? Are they THIS insecure they can't enjoy a movie for just the movie? Ok, the director said something about this being an immigrant story. THAT is enough to set off Righties? Seriously?


Just a small sampling of the kind of responses some posted to show quite clearly how childish certain people can be in response to that thread:

Not a good idea to piss off 70 million people when you are trying to sell them a movie.

Then why did the writer, director, producer, actors, have to WOKE it up?

Actually, I think TDS libruls like you are just melting down over the lack of conservative meltdowns The only real meltdowns that have occurred are TDS inflicted libruls melting down after the 2016 and the 2024 elections.

I mean an attack over TDS libruls has WHAT to do with the movie?

Each day we get entertained by the most immature attacks imaginable. Want to talk politics, sure. Want to discuss policies, go for it. Want to defend the actions of this person or that, fine. But BLEATING over a movie because Fox told you it was "woke" is just lame.

I hear they are thinking of casting the next James Bond as a woman. Can we anticipate the horror that will be expressed if that happens?
 
Don't be coy.
What's your point?
The point is obvious, but I'll spell it out for you. No one is against kindness or inclusion. They're against DEI because of DEI's odious enforcement of identity politics (a form of racism) and its advocacy for state-enforced racial preference policies (i.e., racial discrimination).

The OP's message is as dumb as asking how anyone would could be against a legislative bill that is "big and beautiful?"
 
Thank you for the evidence that supports post #2.
 
Oh brother! Another one upset about the wokeness of a Superman movie. Is this for real? I mean the Superman movie is about a white dude, so WHERE is the DEI in that movie? JAYSUS!
I bet you my bottom dollar you will now do what you always do, keep the argument going for pages and pages just because you can't let something go. Go for it.

 
"A wise man changes his mind, a fool never will."
But they do change their minds all the time. They were against war before they were for it with Iran, in just one example.
 
But they do change their minds all the time. They were against war before they were for it with Iran, in just one example.
They are against war when Obama or Biden was for it, but are for it when Bush or Trump were for it.
 

I'm not going to divert this thread but if you want to start a thread about DEI - DEIA I'll gladly participate.

You do not understand DEI. You are arguing against false assumptions.
 
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I'm not going to divert this thread but it you want to start a thread about DEI - DEIA I'll gladly participate.

You do not understand DEI. You are arguing against false assumptions.
An attempt at deflection.
 
Agreed. I don't understand why people would oppose discrimination and racism once they've been rebranded as kindness and inclusion. It's like they don't understand the transformative magic of euphemisms.

It's probably because they studied grammar and also realized those are not opposites.
 
I'm not going to divert this thread but it you want to start a thread about DEI - DEIA I'll gladly participate.

You do not understand DEI. You are arguing against false assumptions.
Any non white in any position of authority is seen as an assault on white people by conservatives. Always has been, just changes its name every decade.
 
Leftists talk about being open-mined while dogmatically repeating their stereotypical views like a chant.
 
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