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[W:57]Newly minted Democratic socialist congresswoman Alexandra Ocasio-Cortez says New Yorkers

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Boy the usual suspects on the right must be scared ****less of this woman.. they do realize that she can't even run for President for another 5 to 6 years?

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Yes, this is a completely sane path of logic. I am sure people are just terrified of her obviously superior intellect.
 
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Why does billionaire Jeff Bezos get tax breaks that I wouldn't get if I started a company to compete with him? How do you call this a free market?

Sent from my HTC phone. Instaurare omnia in Christo.

Another great questions. Can I ask in true retrospect are the 1% really getting away with paying less taxes?

The Business is a Business is a Business right? So First and For most we dropped the tax bracket for business from 37% to 21% Oddly that is STILL WAY HIGHER, than the normal EVERYDAY tax bracket no?


What I mean is 24% and below is the actual Tax Bracket that all pay for incomes less than $250,000 Which most Americans actually fall under

So FOR YEARS Corporations where paying roughly 13% MORE per BRACKET than the normal run of the mill people. remember this only happened this year. US has had one of the HIGHEST Business taxes imposed world wide.

So NOW what does that 14% drop Do for business? does that mean 14% of money went straight to Bezos pocket, How about Koch brothers, Apple? Or Microsoft. It went straight to their pockets?

Likely it went either into reinvestment's or as TRUMP hoped income injected back into OUR economy, through expanded business, Bonuses and increase wages.


Secondly. SPECIFIC to individuals income. Remember business is a business.. now... Jeff Bezos got a 2% rate reduction, BUT he still pays 37% in taxes. Compared to again the 24% most Americans pay. he pays 11% MORE in taxes than MOST Americans do. WRITE off do NOT defeat actual cost.

here is a really simple example.

W2 worker Grosses $100,000 a year X 24% ($24,000 in taxes) Net take home is $76,000

1099 worker Grosses $100,000 less deductions- $80,0000 now they only pay 22% ($17,600) , Net take home $62,400

I know that this is a very simple example.... and its a little more complicated.


But if you can start to see the holes that I am trying to make that a person like yourself in comparison to a Jeff Bezos is NOT a fair assessment to income vs taxes.


NOW For the HELL of it.....

Lets say Bezos Has to Draw a Million dollar salary.

W2 - $1million, his Tax is 37% ($370,000 in taxes) Net $630,000 Take home , His taxes alone makes up for 15.5 People earning 100,000 a year.

WHY should he have to pay 13% more than any one else? Why CANT he keep his money he made? He does and draws the same from sales?


NOW here is the NEXT questions...What do these guys do with their money? HIDE it? What do you think he does with $630,000 a year or $52,500 a month income? Likely buy cars, Houses, Splurged at dinners where does that money go? To other businesses that pay employees and STATE Taxes.

Just because they keep more in their pocket does not mean they are hording it.


The funny part is with the Deductions for business it Entices us to SPEND more money to build up more writeoffs, when we spend locally it infuses/inject funds into the local economy....

37% to the Federal government.


But buy a $200,000 car at 7% sales tax thats $14,000 in sales tax alone...... So is it really unfair or are we just looking at people that got rich as unfair rather then what they are actually doing for our economy.

Totally my opinion and a lot of blanketing terms... but again trying to make it debatable.
 
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Totally Gotcha..... Here is the really stupid but honest response? All BIG business was small one time..... Problem is the allure and the special interest from OTHERS that create the Greed from the top down.


I assume there are still SOME good big business and corporations that are still around..... Just bad people that are implanted among it that bring a bad name....

Big businesses can be run well, but in my experience they all support open borders, free trade, and other policies that undercut American labor so that they can maximize profit. That may be great for their shareholders, but I would rather defend working Americans than wealthy financial interests.
 
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Big businesses can be run well, but in my experience they all support open borders, free trade, and other policies that undercut American labor so that they can maximize profit. That may be great for their shareholders, but I would rather defend working Americans than wealthy financial interests.

DANG...... In odd circumstance.... DAMN! I agree LOL!


Now I dont think "ALL" Business actually support what you stated. BUT I do agree that MANY have been forced into taking advantage of it. NOW I hate to say a political bias is a reason for some of this... as this goes back to our original points of discussion. Capitalism.....

Lets face it that many highly regulated positions and jobs... have its own corruption through productivity and abuse of benefits.... So its a double edge sword. BUUUUTTT You are correct the ABUSE is rampant for large business that out source or use cheap labor or cut corners.

The only part that I have major contention? Will Americans "Step up to do" said jobs...... our society has changed a ALOT and they seem to see things "Beneath them" ??
 
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I really can't understand the love that individual Republicans have for corporations.

Corporations line their pockets. What's not to understand?
 
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Moderator's Warning:
Stop the personal attacks and stick to the topic.
 
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She doesn't start getting paid until January.
Someone would rent to her on credit until then?

This should be one a few intelligence tests for people going to Congress. If you cannot figure it out you lose your seat.

1. She is employed by the most stable employer in the world. She has the full faith and credit behind her pay check... the United States Government. At some point, $348,000 is going to be deposited into her bank account over the next 24-months.

2. She is a public figure who, should she skip out of her rental, the property owner has quite the story; a political career damaging type.

3. With points 1 and 2, she has the ability to negotiate rental agreements with a massively long line of property owners who would, if they’re not as dumb as DIMWIT-CORTEZ, jump at the chance to have her as a renter for 2-years... even if the payments started pouring into her account in August next year.

She exhibited how much of a DIMWIT she is. If she couldn’t figure that simple transaction out, she has no business being in Congress.

First get some life experience... then when you lose your training wheels... and can figure out the simplest of transactions... honey... then perhaps you have the gravitas to negotiate deals on behalf of your constituents and nation.

PS. The way she could cut a deal for rent until her money arrives are multiple. But, her failing to see even one possibility, and her whining about it publicly, reinforced the fact she’s as dumb as a rock.

A) For not seeing the massive leverage she has.

B) For coming out publicly, showing how thick she is.

That is a very simple problem to solve... not complicated in the least, but to her... it obviously was very complex... as she could not see even one solution to the problem!!! (Facepalm)!!!
 
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This should be one a few intelligence tests for people going to Congress. If you cannot figure it out you lose your seat.

1. She is employed by the most stable employer in the world. She has the full faith and credit behind her pay check... the United States Government. At some point, $348,000 is going to be deposited into her bank account over the next 24-months. If it started in June next year... doesn’t matter... she... had she half a brain, could find a whole host of renters willing to cut a deal.

2. She is a public figure who, should she skip out of her rental, the property owner has quite the story; a political career damaging type.

3. With points 1 and 2, she has the ability to negotiate rental agreements with a massively long line of property owners who would, if they’re not as dumb as DIMWIT-CORTEZ, jump at the chance to have her as a renter for 2-years.

She exhibited how much of a DIMWIT she is. If she couldn’t figure that simple transaction out, she has no business being in Congress.

First get some life experience... then when you lose your training wheels... and can figure out the simplest of transactions... honey... then perhaps you have the gravitas to negotiate deals on behalf of your constituents and nation.

PS. The way she could cut a deal for rent until her money arrives are multiple. But, her failing to see even one possibility, and her whining about it publicly, reinforced the fact she’s as dumb as a rock.

That is a very simple problem to solve... not complicated in the least, but to her... it obviously was very complex... as she could not see even one solution to the problem!!! (Facepalm)!!!
Or perhaps she's used to having to pay as she goes, and this scenario you find so obvious...wasn't.

Or it isn't as easy as you say.
 
OCASIO-CORTEZ DIMWIT ALERT !!!!!!

ROTFLOL... This is too funny.

If they could, Amazon should pull out, and say... OK... we don’t want to offend you... we’re moving the operation to another state. Thanks. Bye!

That would be a lesson in economics... something... ROTFLOL... she ... ROTFLMFAO... majored in... ROTFLOL!!!

As for unions and who they hire and from where... not her business. If she wanted to run a business, she should have opened one.

Perhaps a bunch of illegals should be hired instead of her constituents in Westechester... errr the Bronx.

Added to her whining about not being able to settle in DC... because she didn’t have a clue how to leverage her position and salary (facepalm)... that’s 2 FULL DIMWIT AWARDS in a handful of days.

Then she joined protesters in Pelosi’s office... That’s 3 DIMWIT AWARDS.

She’s a world-class dimwit, and man will her future idiocies be fun to watch... LOL... she’s like a loop of a high-speed car crash.
At least she isnt a hypocrite. How many democrats that complain about tax cuts to the rich are supporting this tax break.

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Just more Corporate Capitalism.

That's what it looks to be at this point. I still think she's pretty anti-Semitic as well, despite how much someone wants to try and scrub their social media history. It also doesn't help that she is a mine for some of the dumbest quotes that I've ever seen from a democratic official and is including some of the worst anti-gun rhetoric that I can dig up.

I'm just waiting for her to start doing speeches for Goldman Sachs. Then maybe the democrats can stop pretending about her.
 
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The only part that I have major contention? Will Americans "Step up to do" said jobs...... our society has changed a ALOT and they seem to see things "Beneath them" ??

I think that they would once companies are forced to pay decent wages for the jobs that they currently pay peanuts for. Remember that real median wages have fallen since the 1970s, while the real cost of living has risen. We've been going through an economic decline for decades now; most have just been too distracted with cheap toys to notice.
 
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Corporations line their pockets. What's not to understand?

I used to defend corporations vigorously. I never received a check.
 
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I think that they would once companies are forced to pay decent wages for the jobs that they currently pay peanuts for. Remember that real median wages have fallen since the 1970s, while the real cost of living has risen. We've been going through an economic decline for decades now; most have just been too distracted with cheap toys to notice.

MAN I really love this discussion! You are hitting really good debatable points and being SUPPER respectful about it without attacking me! Thank you so much!


1) Decent wages..... I have concerns. $15 an hour is NOT decent wages in my opinion
2) $2 an hour is BS and the fact that they are abusing those willing to work for that is "WRONG"
3) Median wages have fallen, but likely due to the COST of living increase. (I want to discuss this, CAVEAT)

OK OK ....

Cost of living has sky rocketed. and I feel its Societies FAULT. Wants and needs have DRASTICALLY changed.... Luxury/Convenience is what drives up the cost of living rather than Sustainability.

I typed it out I think i this thread but real quick.... I live in one of the highest cost of living states. as a single individual, to SURVIVE it was $8.66 per hour that was the LEGIT wage I needed to survive. NOT $15. If I worked hard I could get a raise, or had the energy to work 2 jobs.. thats a bonus

THIS is a single guy.....Not clubing, driving fancy cars.... latest and greatest Iphone, maxed out data plan. NO major entertainment expenditures just Sustainability. Roof over my head, Food in the fridge a place to drink and go potty (LOL)


BUT the Current Generation WILL NOT and CANNOT live on sustainability. THEY MUST have the latest and greatest. TAKE Your bills and look.... SO MUCH luxury/convenience in cost in our lives. Cell phone bill,, Xbox Gold membership, Amazon Prime, Netflix/Hulu, Highspeed internet. Now add in a 2015+ Car.....if thats a LUXURY car or an ever day run of the mill. WE do Self-inflicted damage to our self's when it comes to money.

NOW you brough up a really funny point, I am 100% guilt of cheap toys.... THIS CRAP ADDS UP LIKE CARAZYYYYYYYY.. But I dont notice it .......

$1, here, $5 here $20 there on ebay, On Amazon.. on Alibaba...... Smally little itty bitty purchase, Till I look at my CC and realize HOLY CRAP, i just spent $600 last month on little knicknacks....FFS thats half the Mortgage?........

Self Responsibility, Accountability and REALITY is what society needs... NOT the Kardashian fallacy
 
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MAN I really love this discussion! You are hitting really good debatable points and being SUPPER respectful about it without attacking me! Thank you so much!


1) Decent wages..... I have concerns. $15 an hour is NOT decent wages in my opinion

I agree. It's not enough, but even that is an improvement for many people.

2) $2 an hour is BS and the fact that they are abusing those willing to work for that is "WRONG"

100% agreed. This needs to end.

3) Median wages have fallen, but likely due to the COST of living increase. (I want to discuss this, CAVEAT)

...

BUT the Current Generation WILL NOT and CANNOT live on sustainability. THEY MUST have the latest and greatest. TAKE Your bills and look.... SO MUCH luxury/convenience in cost in our lives. Cell phone bill,, Xbox Gold membership, Amazon Prime, Netflix/Hulu, Highspeed internet. Now add in a 2015+ Car.....if thats a LUXURY car or an ever day run of the mill. WE do Self-inflicted damage to our self's when it comes to money.

NOW you brough up a really funny point, I am 100% guilt of cheap toys.... THIS CRAP ADDS UP LIKE CARAZYYYYYYYY.. But I dont notice it .......

$1, here, $5 here $20 there on ebay, On Amazon.. on Alibaba...... Smally little itty bitty purchase, Till I look at my CC and realize HOLY CRAP, i just spent $600 last month on little knicknacks....FFS thats half the Mortgage?........

Self Responsibility, Accountability and REALITY is what society needs... NOT the Kardashian fallacy

I'm less sympathetic to this argument because it completely neglects how much the cost of living eats into paychecks. Have you seen this graph before?

income-rent-chart.jpg


I love posting this because it shows how our economy has completely failed. When people are regularly spending 30-50%+ of their income just to put a roof over their heads, then it's not a problem of personal responsibility, it's a failing economy.
 
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I agree. It's not enough, but even that is an improvement for many people.



100% agreed. This needs to end.



I'm less sympathetic to this argument because it completely neglects how much the cost of living eats into paychecks. Have you seen this graph before?

income-rent-chart.jpg


I love posting this because it shows how our economy has completely failed. When people are regularly spending 30-50%+ of their income just to put a roof over their heads, then it's not a problem of personal responsibility, it's a failing economy.

I Get it, so I am using my experience.

I live in a state where likely 60% of my income was the Roof.... BUT I also go SUPER crafty how the remainder 40% was spent. This is also why I MAY be bias.......so bear with me,

A while back had that crazy coupon show, where those people went gang busters on coupons and had wagons full of crap for like $.11 cents?

I learned to "Cook" that was budget one. And when I cooked I cooked what was on sale ONLY. So week 1 Hamburger was on sale... like ready to expire... made hamburgers, meatloaf, tacos etc.

Week 2 pork was on sale, Shake and Bake, grilled porkchops, Swimming pork chops

MY food BILL WAS SOOOO low. becuase of it.


Again budgetting..... I had newer (not brand new) $35,000 BMW at that time. when I lost my "Job" and went 1099, I traded it off... a friend had an old busted highlander, Free and clear and he gave it to me and assumed my loan for the remainder of the BMW. I was debt free from the car and it was old. legal insurance at that was it. for transportation.


AGAIN, we blame 1 facet of Roof. and its Substantial, BUT its NOT impossible with a little bit of ingenuity. THAT seems to lack in our current generation. TOTALLY my opinion of course.
 
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I agree. It's not enough, but even that is an improvement for many people.



100% agreed. This needs to end.



I'm less sympathetic to this argument because it completely neglects how much the cost of living eats into paychecks. Have you seen this graph before?

income-rent-chart.jpg


I love posting this because it shows how our economy has completely failed. When people are regularly spending 30-50%+ of their income just to put a roof over their heads, then it's not a problem of personal responsibility, it's a failing economy.

No. People are living in the wrong place.
 
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I Get it, so I am using my experience.

I live in a state where likely 60% of my income was the Roof.... BUT I also go SUPER crafty how the remainder 40% was spent. This is also why I MAY be bias.......so bear with me,

A while back had that crazy coupon show, where those people went gang busters on coupons and had wagons full of crap for like $.11 cents?

I learned to "Cook" that was budget one. And when I cooked I cooked what was on sale ONLY. So week 1 Hamburger was on sale... like ready to expire... made hamburgers, meatloaf, tacos etc.

Week 2 pork was on sale, Shake and Bake, grilled porkchops, Swimming pork chops

MY food BILL WAS SOOOO low. becuase of it.


Again budgetting..... I had newer (not brand new) $35,000 BMW at that time. when I lost my "Job" and went 1099, I traded it off... a friend had an old busted highlander, Free and clear and he gave it to me and assumed my loan for the remainder of the BMW. I was debt free from the car and it was old. legal insurance at that was it. for transportation.


AGAIN, we blame 1 facet of Roof. and its Substantial, BUT its NOT impossible with a little bit of ingenuity. THAT seems to lack in our current generation. TOTALLY my opinion of course.

Of course it's possible. We're not starving, but you have to understand the resentment that this generation feels when they have a lower standard of living than their parents had.
 
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No. People are living in the wrong place.

Bud, there are no jobs in the "right" place. It's not called the rust belt for nothing.
 
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Bud, there are no jobs in the "right" place. It's not called the rust belt for nothing.

You are uninformed.

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You are uninformed.

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No, you don't know what you're talking about. All of the job growth is in our biggest cities.

https://www.curbed.com/2016/9/13/12891472/job-growth-cities-us
 
OCASIO-CORTEZ DIMWIT ALERT !!!!!!

ROTFLOL... This is too funny.

If they could, Amazon should pull out, and say... OK... we don’t want to offend you... we’re moving the operation to another state. Thanks. Bye!

That would be a lesson in economics... something... ROTFLOL... she ... ROTFLMFAO... majored in... ROTFLOL!!!

As for unions and who they hire and from where... not her business. If she wanted to run a business, she should have opened one.

Perhaps a bunch of illegals should be hired instead of her constituents in Westechester... errr the Bronx.

Added to her whining about not being able to settle in DC... because she didn’t have a clue how to leverage her position and salary (facepalm)... that’s 2 FULL DIMWIT AWARDS in a handful of days.

Then she joined protesters in Pelosi’s office... That’s 3 DIMWIT AWARDS.

She’s a world-class dimwit, and man will her future idiocies be fun to watch... LOL... she’s like a loop of a high-speed car crash.
That looks like the well reasoned post of someone not having a post electoral meltdown. I really believe there are great nuggets of information we can glean from such a well written post. Hell, I think it is on par with some of the best posts by the most respected posters.

Yes, Zimmer, keep going down this path.

Sent from Trump Plaza's basement using Putin's MacBook.
 
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bingo!

Trump only negotiated deals around the world, and in the toughest US property market... and built an empire.

If I may quote you:

DIMWIT ALERT !!!!!!

ROTFLOL... This is too funny.

Trump was given a fortune to start with. He managed to bankrupt a casino. Virtually no banks would loan him money.

He's so desperate for money he runs flimflams to scam desperate people out of their last pennies by driving them deep into credit card debt.

$25 million settlement finalized in Trump University lawsuit

How embarrassing.

Indeed.


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OCASIO-CORTEZ DIMWIT ALERT !!!!!!

ROTFLOL... This is too funny.

If they could, Amazon should pull out, and say... OK... we don’t want to offend you... we’re moving the operation to another state. Thanks. Bye!

That would be a lesson in economics... something... ROTFLOL... she ... ROTFLMFAO... majored in... ROTFLOL!!!

As for unions and who they hire and from where... not her business. If she wanted to run a business, she should have opened one.

Perhaps a bunch of illegals should be hired instead of her constituents in Westechester... errr the Bronx.

Added to her whining about not being able to settle in DC... because she didn’t have a clue how to leverage her position and salary (facepalm)... that’s 2 FULL DIMWIT AWARDS in a handful of days.

Then she joined protesters in Pelosi’s office... That’s 3 DIMWIT AWARDS.

She’s a world-class dimwit, and man will her future idiocies be fun to watch... LOL... she’s like a loop of a high-speed car crash.

Multiple threads/posts and a blog entry.

You have the hots for her.:lamo:2wave:
 
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