No killing. Work to reduce births.So just kill men? I guess that will work. We can start with all the white people and then work our way up the brown scale.
No killing. Work to reduce births.So just kill men? I guess that will work. We can start with all the white people and then work our way up the brown scale.
Why wait until a black guy gets killed? We need to save these glaciers some way so why wait?I think for every black man that gets killed we must even that out by offing 3 whities. Do you think 3 is enough?
But if people resist not having offspring we can kill them then, right? I mean, if our goal is to have significantly less people then we need to focus on efficieny at some point or we'll never be able to save the planet...which doesn't belong to us anyway.No killing. Work to reduce births.
Artficial polution. Plastics, coal soot, poisonous industrial run off, scortched earth resource collection techniques. The things that actually destroy plants, rather than the thing that causes them to grow...
Study: Global plant growth surging alongside carbon dioxide
A trace gas present in the atmosphere in miniscule amounts is helping scientists answer one of the biggest questions out there: Has plant growth increased alongside rising levels of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere? It turns out the answer is Yes – in a big way. A new study published in the...www.noaa.gov
I love this American simplicity...NASA - Soot is Key Player in Himalayan Warming; Looming Water Woes in Asia
A NASA-led study has found new evidence that a "heat pump" effect driven by soot contributes as much (or more) to atmospheric warming in the Himalayas as greenhouse gases.www.nasa.gov
Soot clouds pose threat to Himalayan glaciers
Soot particles threaten environmental catastrophewww.theguardian.com
The rapid melt in the Himalayas is indeed related to fossil fuels, namely coal, but it is a regional issue connected to the huge amount of soot produced by dirty burning Chinese coal power plants and industry.
The issue is so bad we have long been able to see it from space.
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China must raise air quality standards as smog persists, task force says
China should raise air quality standards as persistent smog continues to have a severe public health impact despite recent improvements, a state-funded task force said.www.reuters.com
Now, will the world do anything to curb Chinese polution? No. Would CCP listen? No. Does CCP care? No.
Right now, CO2 is no mare harmful to us that raising the bath water from 70F to 72F. It's still lower than optimum.AGW and associated climate change is way more complex its negatives for the human race (and the rest of the fauna of the world) than just a simplistic claim of the offset of “more plant growth”.
Right now, CO2 is no mare harmful to us that raising the bath water from 70F to 72F. It's still lower than optimum.
I love this American simplicity...
And are there similar "studies" in relation to the United States? It seems like heavy industry makes almost 30% of your economy... or does everything work on love and tenderness there?)))
You are so funny and not once hypocrites.
AGW and associated climate change is way more complex its negatives for the human race (and the rest of the fauna of the world) than just a simplistic claim of the offset of “more plant growth”.
In other words, or in your own words, THEY CARE ABOUT THE WATER !! There is no reason to suspect China will simply continue to ignore on-going and worsening ecological disasters in their own country. Conversely, there is every reason to believe that they can, and will, make every effort to mitigate deadly problems within their own borders, because they have a history of doing so.
Further supporting their need for hydroelectric power.
Guest post: Why China is set to significantly overachieve its 2030 climate goals - Carbon Brief
China is continuing to build up its domestic fossil fuel production capacity and strengthening its portfolio for energy imports, even as it accelerates renewable power deployment. Yet our assessment shows the country is also set to significantly overachieve the targets it promised...www.carbonbrief.org
The things you assert about China may be largely true, but they are no more true of China than they are of our own country. We know how our elected officials have pandered to polluters for generations, and until we get the money out of our politics, that sad fact isn't about to change. Our last president dropped out of the Paris Agreement, and actually went so far as to promote the use of "clean coal" - about as laughable an oxymoron as anyone has ever heard. The big difference, as I have pointed out, is that when China wants to do something, there is no political obstruction to bringing every resource to bear on the problem. For example . . . . .
How China Built Two Coronavirus Hospitals in Just Over a Week
China on Thursday completed construction on the second of two new hospitals in Wuhan, the city at the heart of the coronavirus outbreak.www.wsj.com
. . . . . an achievement which is nothing short of unimaginable in this country. And climateologically speaking, China has had a devastating year.
The reason AGW has been such a great proipaganda tool is exactly the opposite of what you say. It is overly simplistic, reducing all climate events and environmental concerns to one single cause: CO2
Actual polution is a very complex issue with millions of causes, and for each cause a million proposed solutions and a million more counter arguments.
Other than the fact that China is north of the Himalayas and prevailing winds travel west to east your post is spot on.NASA - Soot is Key Player in Himalayan Warming; Looming Water Woes in Asia
A NASA-led study has found new evidence that a "heat pump" effect driven by soot contributes as much (or more) to atmospheric warming in the Himalayas as greenhouse gases.www.nasa.gov
Soot clouds pose threat to Himalayan glaciers
Soot particles threaten environmental catastrophewww.theguardian.com
The rapid melt in the Himalayas is indeed related to fossil fuels, namely coal, but it is a regional issue connected to the huge amount of soot produced by dirty burning Chinese coal power plants and industry.
The issue is so bad we have long been able to see it from space.
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China must raise air quality standards as smog persists, task force says
China should raise air quality standards as persistent smog continues to have a severe public health impact despite recent improvements, a state-funded task force said.www.reuters.com
Now, will the world do anything to curb Chinese polution? No. Would CCP listen? No. Does CCP care? No.
I didn't notice anywhere in your post a reference to the fact that we have failed to do any better. It's hard to take anyone's comments seriously when they blame China, and ignore not only our own failure to address the same problem, but the efforts of the previous administration to go backward! Bitching about China is the most intellectually dishonest, and the worst kind of whataboutism, we can possibly engage in. Unless and until we get our own house in order, it's best to just STFU about China. We have no real power over what they do - only over what we do - and our efforts are nothing short of abysmal.It's amazing what you can accomplish with slave labor, eh?
Other than the fact that China is north of the Himalayas and prevailing winds travel west to east your post is spot on.
I wasn't denying science, I was using it to show you are incorrect in your assessment of China's coal plants being at fault.Science denier...
NASA - Soot is Key Player in Himalayan Warming; Looming Water Woes in Asia
A NASA-led study has found new evidence that a "heat pump" effect driven by soot contributes as much (or more) to atmospheric warming in the Himalayas as greenhouse gases.www.nasa.gov
I didn't notice anywhere in your post a reference to the fact that we have failed to do any better. It's hard to take anyone's comments seriously when they blame China, and ignore not only our own failure to address the same problem, but the efforts of the previous administration to go backward! Bitching about China is the most intellectually dishonest, and the worst kind of whataboutism, we can possibly engage in. Unless and until we get our own house in order, it's best to just STFU about China. We have no real power over what they do - only over what we do - and our efforts are nothing short of abysmal.
One thing that China does not suffer from is having a third, or more, of their nation, including their political elite, as AGM deniers. How do you see that working out for the planet in the near term? It doesn't look good to me.
I wasn't denying science, I was using it to show you are incorrect in your assessment of China's coal plants being at fault.
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Geography denier...
The map is what it is, if the directions of the prevailing winds and the general geography is too vague...sorry. You're right, I continue not to read the NASA article. Use a pull quote.Do you have a readable map?
Also, I see you continue not to read the NASA article...
The map is what it is, if the directions of the prevailing winds and the general geography is too vague...sorry. You're right, I continue not to read the NASA article. Use a pull quote.
I take your point with one exception. Summer shows no prevailing winds moving from north to south over the Himalayas. Occasional changes does not change the prevailing winds.Again, no. The direction of the winds change seasonally, depending on the position of the Intertropical conveyor. During the summer the conveyor moves closer to the India China border, which reduces the southerly direction, but the win still crosses from China to India. During the winter the intertropical conveyor mores to the Indian ocean and the wind direction is most definitely from China to India.
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?? HUH ?? What pollution am I creating in China? And even more ridiculous, what on earth do you think you are doing about China's pollution? Hmm?We have done far better, not the least evidence is the fact that we can't see American air pollution from space, and no American city is as bad as China.
As long as you want to attempt to gaslight to atrocious pollution in China, you are part of the problem.
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If you want to have an intellectual conversation I am glad to do that. But if you are just trying to mess with people's minds, I am not interested in that.But if people resist not having offspring we can kill them then, right? I mean, if our goal is to have significantly less people then we need to focus on efficieny at some point or we'll never be able to save the planet...which doesn't belong to us anyway.
I take your point with one exception. Summer shows no prevailing winds moving from north to south over the Himalayas. Occasional changes does not change the prevailing winds.