What difference does it make! The Homosexual agenda won that round.
What deviant behavior do you want legalized now?
What difference does it make! The Homosexual agenda won that round.
What deviant behavior do you want legalized now?
Did your marriage fall apart?
Whoosh.
The topic is, were Republicans telling the truth or a lie claiming for years that the institution of marriage would be destroyed, and protecting marriage and raising children required banning gay marriage equality? Were they right, or lying to get bigots' votes for their plutocracy agenda?
Nope.. Never considered that it might.
It's law...wth do you want now?
So why oppose it?
For you to learn something from years of Republicans lying. Do you agree that Republicans lied for years that gay marriage equality would destroy marriage, to get votes from people like you? Or are you in denial, saying la-la-la-la-la-la about the issue now, while having supported their false claim?
It is part of a larger agenda to destroy decency in this country. It's yet another cog in identity politics to boot.
Opinion noted and dismissed
For years, Republicans ran against gay marriage equality - they used the issue to get Republican voters out.
The message from the activists and practically all Republican politicians was the same: gay marriage marriage equality would destroy the institution of marriage. If you liked marriage, if you liked children, you had to protect marriage by opposing gay marriage equality.
It's interesting to review this as a typical example of a Republican politicization of an issue, now that we have some more history.
I considered pulling up a long list of quotes, but I'll stick with the Republican Senate Majority leader as typical: "Will activist judges not elected by the American people destroy the institution of marriage, or will the people protect marriage as the best way to raise children? My vote is with the people."
That's what he said when Bush's effort to pass a constitutional amendment prohibiting gay marriage failed to get the 60 required votes. Republicans voted 45-6 in favor of the amendment - support for banning gay marriage in the constitution had overwhelming Republican support int he Senate and elsewhere.
So, how are those claims of nearly the entire party holding up now, that the institution of marriage would be destroyed, made so loudly for so many years? It'd be nice if Republicans voters could learn a little something from examples like this about the false, misguided hyperbole the Republican leaders to get votes.
After all that drama, like 4 gay people got married.
Unlike those on the Left, I have my own opinions and don't rely on Pols to tell me how and what to think.
During her first run for president in 2008, Hillary Clinton had an opportunity to become an undisputed leader in the gay rights movement.
As she prepared for a forum on the gay-oriented Logo network, she reached out to her friend Hilary Rosen, a political consultant who is a lesbian. Rosen expressed frustration that so many mainstream political figures opposed legalized same-sex marriage, and she challenged Clinton to speak out for a community that had strongly supported her.
Clinton refused.
“I’m struggling with how we can support this with a religious and family context,’’ Rosen recalled Clinton telling her....
https://www.washingtonpost.com/loca...3a5cfc-58cf-11e6-9767-f6c947fd0cb8_story.html
Marriage equality activists weren’t the only ones frustrated with Barack Obama when during his 2008 presidential run he opposed same-sex marriage “as a Christian”.
Obama himself was frustrated about it, if a description in a new book by his former top adviser, David Axelrod, is to be believed. The presidential candidate was so frustrated, in fact, that after one event in which he had to say he was against same-sex marriage, Obama complained: “I’m just not very good at bull****ting.”
Obama may have been selling himself short on that score, given the number of times he or his advisers publicly opposed same-sex marriage over the years. But the “bull****ting” scene in Axelrod’s book, described first on Tuesday by Time magazine, puts the president’s duplicity on the issue in a stark new light.
In the book, Believer: My Forty Years in Politics, Axelrod blames himself, and his political calculations, for preventing Obama for standing up for what he believed in.
“Opposition to gay marriage was particularly strong in the black church, and as he ran for higher office, he grudgingly accepted the counsel of more pragmatic folks like me, and modified his position to support civil unions rather than marriage, which he would term a ‘sacred union’,” Axelrod writes. “Having prided himself on forthrightness, though, Obama never felt comfortable with his compromise and, no doubt, compromised position.”
The “political necessity” argument from the Obama administration is one that is familiar to activists beyond the LGBTQ community. On issues from immigration to racially charged police violence to the decriminalization of marijuana, activists have voiced frustration at a perceived double-dealing by the president on the issues they hold most dear, and fatigue with repeated White House requests for patience.
Obama has described his changing public views on same-sex marriage as an “evolution”, but he had to devolve before he evolved. As a candidate for the Illinois state senate in 1996, Obama said he favored same-sex marriage in response to a questionnaire from a Chicago-area gay and lesbian newspaper. “I favor legalizing same-sex marriages, and would fight efforts to prohibit such marriages,” Obama wrote.
But out on the presidential campaign trail in August 2008, Obama gave voice to the opposite view in an interview with evangelical pastor Rick Warren, head of Saddleback megachurch in southern California. Asked to define marriage, Obama said: “I believe that marriage is the union between a man and a woman. Now, for me as a Christian – for me – for me as a Christian, it is also a sacred union. God’s in the mix.”
Obama's gay marriage controversy: 'I am just not very good at bullshitting' | US news | The Guardian
And yet they all come directly from Trump. Strange how every conservative is a free thinker who, completely on his own, comes up with the exact same opinion.
Unlike those on the Left, I have my own opinions and don't rely on Pols to tell me how and what to think.
In exactly the same way the Internet was destroyed by rolling back net neutrality rules, sure. :shrug:
They don't call us "the Right" for nothing.
What difference does it make! The Homosexual agenda won that round.
What deviant behavior do you want legalized now?
First of all, the claims aren't the same. Second of all, net neutrality hasn't been dismantled. The courts preserved states' rights to keep it, and California as usual has led the nation with the strongest net neutrality law.
After all that drama, like 4 gay people got married.
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