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(W:#403)The trial of Travis and Gregory McMichael, and William "Roddie" Bryan, for felony murder in the killing of Ahmaud Arbery

gboisjo said:
I jogged for 30 years and can count the number of blacks I saw jogging on one hand. Doesn't need research, it a matter of common awareness and sense.
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Anecdotes and your "common sense" are not evidence of anything mister.
 
PeacefulWarrior said:
Anecdotes and your "common sense" are not evidence of anything mister.
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Black track athletes, by contrast, were familiar and even celebrated in the United States. But to some white Americans, cheering on an Olympic athlete on television was entirely different from embracing black participation in an activity that took place on the streets of their neighborhood. By the 1980s, jogging had become known as a “yuppie” affectation, like eating croissants, owning a fancy juicer, and working on Wall Street.

And for the most part has remained so to this day, wake up mister.
 
Continuing where we left Thursday, there are 23 of the needed 64 potential jurors, narrowed down from 80. Once they have 64 they will start selecting from that pool for the jury and alternates. Friday jury selection was canceled because a lawyer had a personal obligation.



Starting with a new group of 20 getting introduced to the process before they begin general questioning.

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2 of the jurors are directly related to at least one of the major parties (3 defendants, victim, and immediate family.)
 
2 potential jurors knew Ahmaud Arbery personally, and his mother, and his father, and his brother. 1 knows Gregory McMichael's wife. 1 former federal LEO.
 
5 potential jurors have been convicted of a DUI or more serious crime. 8 have family members who have.
 
This sounds like a bad movie script about a small town in the South but these jury pool revelations are SO Glynn County.
 
4 have previously testified at a civil or criminal trial. 6 have non military or police firearms training. 2 had a friend or relative charged with murder.
 
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These questions are being asked by the prosecutor. Screenshot_20211025-095050.png

A mother and daughter are both in the pool. The mother does not speak English.

Defense asking general questions now

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Recess, then sounds like individual questioning, so probably no more audio today.
 
This trial won't get much attention until the jury has been selected. Its a boring process, especially in this case as to its length and to top it off much of it can't be viewed by cameras.
 
ASHES said:
2 of the jurors are directly related to at least one of the major parties (3 defendants, victim, and immediate family.)
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And they seated them?
 
ASHES said:
4 have previously testified at a civil or criminal trial. 6 have non military or police firearms training. 2 had a friend or relative charged with murder.
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Are these potential jurors or seated jurors?
 
Lursa said:
Are these potential jurors or seated jurors?
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This is the first phase of questioning. They're bringing in groups of 20 every day, those get whittled down to the final potential jury pool of 64, which will be reduced to 12+4. If 64 isn't enough, they'll repeat this process with more potential jurors.
 
SkyFox76 said:
This appears to be the very first phase of weeding out the ones who don't qualify.
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ASHES said:
This is the first phase of questioning. They're bringing in groups of 20 every day, those get whittled down to the final potential jury pool of 64, which will be reduced to 12+4. If 64 isn't enough, they'll repeat this process with more potential jurors.
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Thanks. In the news they said that they're really having trouble finding jurors.
 
Starting off early with a defense motion to introduce new questions to the potential jurors:

  1. Whether the amount of time between 2/23/2020 (when Arbery was killed) and when the defendants were charged has played any role in how you feel about the case or defendants.
  2. If you were in the accused place, would you want someone with your views on the jury?
  3. Do you think a not guilty verdict will affect your standing in the community or for your loved ones?
Gough arguing the motion:
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9 more potential jurors were selected for the pool yesterday, they are at 31 of the needed 64 before they start selecting the actual jurors.
 
Gough is arguing his motion on restricting free speech on the courthouse grounds.

He wants to expand his free speech restrictions from the grounds to include parking lots and sidewalks around the courthouse.
 
Gough getting feisty responding to the prosecutor's response to his motion.
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Judge denies the defense motion to limit the first amendment outside the courthouse.
 
They're still arguing about the new questions. Judge isn't buying it but he's letting them make arguments about each question. State arguing against the questions now.

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Short recess before they bring in the next group of 20 potential jurors for general questions. The defense was mostly denied their motion to ask new questions. They need to stay within the parameters the judge already ruled on, or risk him upholding objections. Their biggest concern seemed to be that the citizen's arrest law was changed and a hate crime law passed as a result of this case and want to explore potential jurors knowledge of this change in law or whether they can rule by the law as it was on the books at the time.
 
They're building a goddamed stage outside of the court house.

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