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[W:4]Are the Jewish Israelis eventually going to push all of the Palestinians out?

Wow the communist adjacent poster with a picture of a tank as their avatar is doing his performative moralism again. How surprising

Wow, the Pinochet fanboy still can’t figure out that anything to the left of his hero isn’t “communism”. Oh, and absolutely HATES anyone celebrating one of the best American tank destroyers of the Second World War. And is throwing a tantrum because the simple fact that the Founders knew how gleefully different Christian groups oppressed and butchered each other was pointed out.

Yawn
 
Wow, the Pinochet fanboy still can’t figure out that anything to the left of his hero isn’t “communism”. Oh, and absolutely HATES anyone celebrating one of the best American tank destroyers of the Second World War. And is throwing a tantrum because the simple fact that the Founders knew how gleefully different Christian groups oppressed and butchered each other was pointed out.

Yawn
Yawn, tank represented marxism adjacent poster throwing his tantrums again.
 
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The topic of this thread is not each other.
 
Would this be any different than what the Pali’s would do and have tried to do to the Jews?

The Palis should have been pushing for and now really the only way for them to keep anything meaningful is to agree and get Israel to agree to a confederation based off the the Swiss Canto model.

They won’t of course but it is the only realistic way forward which they could get the world behind and push.

Defense, international treaties, trade, economy are handled by the Confederation. Free movement of citizens within, with each “canton” having exclusive jurisdiction to create their own laws. Religious sites would be open to all for visit AND worship.

it’s an imperfect idea and it will never see realization but the Pali’s need to wake up and see that the course they’ve been taking for the last 73 years hasn’t worked and will only cost them more of what little they have.
 
Yawn, tank represented marxism adjacent poster throwing his tantrums again.

Try actually addressing the topic instead of wailing about me having an American tank destroyer as a profile pic bud.
 
Well, so that larger Christian sects could not tyrannize other Christian sects, primarily. So that Baptists could not tyrannize Congregationalists, who in turn could not tyrannize Catholics who in turn could not tyrannize Presbyterians, and so on and so forth.
I reckpn that, beyond all of these potentials for tyrannizing, the idea was also that a government for the people by the people not be manipulated by outside influence like, as just one example, the Catholic Church basically run from Rome.

Past conflicts in Europe served to teach that lesson when parties involved there aligned themselves along religious affiliation.

In the case of the creators of the constitution, England being the most disastrous example, never to be followed.

Catholic slaughter of Protestants and Protestant slaughter of Catholics only seemingly a "Church war", while actually manifesting a power struggle that had little to nothing to do with the very people that suffered from it, but, rather more, with monarchs pursuing their own traditional power interests, often enough from the outside.
 
Demolishing of illegal buildings, and even giving an alternative legal location, what's wrong with that?


What's wrong with it ? lol How about it's in a different state?

I would think you might have something to say if Mexicans claimed your village was built illegally in the USA
 
Isn't that Israeli occupied territory where Israel has jurisdiction?
:ROFLMAO:


Oh dear, it's actually occupied Palestinian territory that the Palestinian subcontractors to the occupation, the PA, decided without any national consensus to allow to be controlled by the occupying forces of Israel. You don't understand why the PA are not that popular do you?

Would you accept occupying Mexicans telling you that your village in Mexico was built illegally according to them and accept being forced out? Of course you wouldn't but you expect Palestinians to.
 
:ROFLMAO:


Oh dear, it's actually occupied Palestinian territory that the Palestinian subcontractors to the occupation, the PA, decided without any national consensus to allow to be controlled by the occupying forces of Israel. You don't understand why the PA are not that popular do you?

Would you accept occupying Mexicans telling you that your village in Mexico was built illegally according to them and accept being forced out? Of course you wouldn't but you expect Palestinians to.

You mean the Egyptian/Jordanian occupied territory that was later occupied by Israel?

That occupied territory?
 
What's wrong with it ? lol How about it's in a different state?

I would think you might have something to say if Mexicans claimed your village was built illegally in the USA
The legitimacy of Israel control is unrelated to the topic of this thread or the post I replied to. Israel didn't claimed en existing town as illegal, it controls the territory for decades, long before this "town" was illegally built - which is recently.

A more accurate Mexico-USA comparison will be if Mexicans would illegally build today a town in USA in a territory that was occupied from Mexico (Texas?) and the USA will demolish it.
 
You mean the Egyptian/Jordanian occupied territory that was later occupied by Israel?

That occupied territory?


Your posts go from bad to worse. Clue.

Gaza was never " Egyptian occupied territory" and the West Bank was never " Jordanian occupied territory"

I notice too how you are loathe to actually answer any questions put to you ? Your posts infer you have no idea/ clue, about how debates work/are constructed
 
The legitimacy of Israel control is unrelated to the topic of this thread or the post I replied to. Israel didn't claimed en existing town as illegal, it controls the territory for decades, long before this "town" was illegally built - which is recently.

A more accurate Mexico-USA comparison will be if Mexicans would illegally build today a town in USA in a territory that was occupied from Mexico (Texas?) and the USA will demolish it.

No, you tried to say that the state of Israel has the right to decide what is and what is not legal in someone elses territory

Occupying armies/states have NO legal right to decide whose house is legal or not in territory they are occupying, they are obliged to look after the people they are occupying, not make them homeless. That you even trying to defend this rubbish in your posts shows how lost you are to Israeli propaganda
 
Your posts go from bad to worse. Clue.

Gaza was never " Egyptian occupied territory" and the West Bank was never " Jordanian occupied territory"

I notice too how you are loathe to actually answer any questions put to you ? Your posts infer you have no idea/ clue, about how debates work/are constructed

Of course you don't like my post. It is accurate.

Gaza was occupied in 1948 by the Egyptians. Ergo Egyptian occupied territory. And so it remained until 1967.

The West Bank was occupied in 1948 by the Jordanians. Ergo Jordanian occupied territory. With a bonus of being annexed by Jordan and all those on the territory declared eligible for Jordanian citizenship. And so it remained until 1967.
 
Of course you don't like my post. It is accurate.

Gaza was occupied in 1948 by the Egyptians. Ergo Egyptian occupied territory. And so it remained until 1967.

The West Bank was occupied in 1948 by the Jordanians. Ergo Jordanian occupied territory. With a bonus of being annexed by Jordan and all those on the territory declared eligible for Jordanian citizenship. And so it remained until 1967.


You still don't get it and there is only so much rubbish people can sift through in peoples posts, so I will leave you in your safe space where the territory being occupied becomes the territory of the occupier :LOL:
 
When Egypt and Jordan occupy, it's not occupation. But when Israel does, that's totally different.

Yeah, right.
 
You still don't get it and there is only so much rubbish people can sift through in peoples posts, so I will leave you in your safe space where the territory being occupied becomes the territory of the occupier :LOL:

Occupied is occupied is occupied.

Gaza was occupied in 1948 by the Egyptians. And so it remained until 1967.

The West Bank was occupied in 1948 by the Jordanians. And so it remained until 1967.

Those were occupations.

Just as the US (and others) occupied Japan and Germany after WWII.

Occupied = Occupied.
 
Wow, the Pinochet fanboy still can’t figure out that anything to the left of his hero isn’t “communism”. Oh, and absolutely HATES anyone celebrating one of the best American tank destroyers of the Second World War. And is throwing a tantrum because the simple fact that the Founders knew how gleefully different Christian groups oppressed and butchered each other was pointed out.

Yawn
And the fastest tank destroyer in the world :p.
 
Occupied is occupied is occupied.

Gaza was occupied in 1948 by the Egyptians. And so it remained until 1967.

The West Bank was occupied in 1948 by the Jordanians. And so it remained until 1967.

Those were occupations.

Just as the US (and others) occupied Japan and Germany after WWII.

Occupied = Occupied.
Hasbara and MSM propaganda, all of it. The moon landing was staged as well.:LOL:
 
Occupied is occupied is occupied.

Gaza was occupied in 1948 by the Egyptians. And so it remained until 1967.

The West Bank was occupied in 1948 by the Jordanians. And so it remained until 1967.

Those were occupations.

Just as the US (and others) occupied Japan and Germany after WWII.

Occupied = Occupied.
Let's not forget that Jordan also annexed the West Bank. Inconvenient for those in denial but WTH.
 
Let's not forget that Jordan also annexed the West Bank. Inconvenient for those in denial but WTH.

[Oneworld2 mode] Only a few nations recognized the annexation. [End Oneworld2 mode]

During the December 1948 Jericho Conference, hundreds of Palestinian notables in the West Bank gathered, accepted Jordanian rule and recognized Abdullah as ruler. This was followed by the 1949 renaming of the country from Transjordan to Jordan. The West Bank was formally annexed on 24 April 1950, but the annexation was widely considered as illegal and void by most of the international community.[6] A month afterwards, the Arab League declared that they viewed the area "annexed by Jordan as a trust in its hands until the Palestine case is fully solved in the interests of its inhabitants."[7] Recognition of Jordan's declaration of annexation was granted only by the United Kingdom, the United States, and Iraq, with dubious claims that Pakistan also recognized the annexation.[8][9][10][11][12]

When Jordan transferred its full citizenship rights to the residents of the West Bank, the annexation more than doubled the population of Jordan.[4] The naturalized Palestinians enjoyed equal opportunities in all sectors of the state without discrimination, and they were given half of the seats of the Jordanian parliament,[13] a consultative body at the service of the King that was created in 1952.

After Jordan lost the West Bank to Israel in the 1967 Six-Day War, the Palestinians there remained Jordanian citizens until Jordan renounced claims to and severed administrative ties with the territory in 1988.


- Wiki
 
No, you tried to say that the state of Israel has the right to decide what is and what is not legal in someone elses territory

Occupying armies/states have NO legal right to decide whose house is legal or not in territory they are occupying, they are obliged to look after the people they are occupying, not make them homeless. That you even trying to defend this rubbish in your posts shows how lost you are to Israeli propaganda
No I'm not, I claim that the controller of a territory (legitimate or not) has to look after the people they control - as you agree. One cannot do that without creating and enforcing rules, including where and where not new houses can be built. As the article states - Israel gave them an alternative location to build their houses.
 
When Egypt and Jordan occupy, it's not occupation. But when Israel does, that's totally different.

Yeah, right.



Hasbara and MSM propaganda, all of it. The moon landing was staged as well.:LOL:



[Oneworld2 mode] Only a few nations recognized the annexation. [End Oneworld2 mode]

During the December 1948 Jericho Conference, hundreds of Palestinian notables in the West Bank gathered, accepted Jordanian rule and recognized Abdullah as ruler. This was followed by the 1949 renaming of the country from Transjordan to Jordan. The West Bank was formally annexed on 24 April 1950, but the annexation was widely considered as illegal and void by most of the international community.[6] A month afterwards, the Arab League declared that they viewed the area "annexed by Jordan as a trust in its hands until the Palestine case is fully solved in the interests of its inhabitants."[7] Recognition of Jordan's declaration of annexation was granted only by the United Kingdom, the United States, and Iraq, with dubious claims that Pakistan also recognized the annexation.[8][9][10][11][12]

When Jordan transferred its full citizenship rights to the residents of the West Bank, the annexation more than doubled the population of Jordan.[4] The naturalized Palestinians enjoyed equal opportunities in all sectors of the state without discrimination, and they were given half of the seats of the Jordanian parliament,[13] a consultative body at the service of the King that was created in 1952.

After Jordan lost the West Bank to Israel in the 1967 Six-Day War, the Palestinians there remained Jordanian citizens until Jordan renounced claims to and severed administrative ties with the territory in 1988.


- Wiki
Let's not forget that Jordan also annexed the West Bank. Inconvenient for those in denial but WTH.

I didn't think you would be so foolish as to post the same mistaken nonsense as Fledermaus but it seems you are, as your post confirms.

The territory is Palestinian,............ did you get that ?.......................... , Palestinian. So when Jordan occupied it, it doesn't become Jordanian occupied territory, it remains Palestinian occupied territory only occupied by Jordan instead. The OPTs are the Occupied PALESTINIAN territories or you could say Israeli occupied Palestine

:rolleyes::ROFLMAO:
 
What a load of bovine manure, Jordan even annexed the West Bank.

Something not even the Western Allies did to post war Germany, despite holding it under occupational status all the way til 1990.

Frenzy born from argumentative desperation sure has some people making complete fools of themselves in their asinine ventures to undo historical facts.
 
What a load of bovine manure, Jordan even annexed the West Bank.

Something not even the Western Allies did to post war Germany, despite holding it under occupational status all the way til 1990.

Frenzy born from argumentative desperation sure has some people making complete fools of themselves in their asinine ventures to undo historical facts.

It was Palestinian territory occupied by Jordan.

The diversion of whether or not Jordan annexed it or not is just that, a diversion because you must realize by now the ridiculous phrasing that you have backed up lols

What historical facts do you consider to have been " undone" ? lols
 
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