[W:2761] Trump says he expects to be arrested Tuesday

[LetsGoBrandon]

Nothing like knowing the facts and making up your mind before any of the facts and the indictment happens. Apparently you're from the future and know details that the rest of us who are in today have yet to learn. Have you been psychic your whole life?

Projection and rant.

 

[LetsGoBrandon]

LOL! Did Fox put that inside your head? Grifters gonna grift and suckers are going to get suckered over and over again. Sad for you and laughable for those who know the difference between the truth and being a sucker.

Perhaps if you can interject some actual discussion rather then just projection and rant, we can have a conversation.

 

[LouC]

Based on what evidence? Source it please.

Yeah, good luck with that!

 

[LetsGoBrandon]

Boy do you have this wrong and with all due respect you got taken in again by Trump. There's no way he would know in advance if/when he will be indicted until, perhaps, the day before as they negotiate his perp walk. What Trump did was throw out another lie (what a shocker) to get more money from truth challenged Republicans who believe his psychotic lies and behavior. Did you send him some more money this time?

If Trump had said nothing this thread would not exist nor would most of the Trump supporters allowed themselves to be grifted again.

It's amazing to me how Trumpers fall for the same money grab over and over again and then parrot what Fox et al tells you. What will it take for you and your brethren to comprehend the truth or will you just continue to be suckered?

Yawn...... You are quite naive regarding politics. Not many secrets are kept. Leaks are quite common and some of them are intentional.

 

[jakiejakester]

And which specific source was that?

Trump's super ego refuses to publicly accept that he had his ass handed to him in 2020 and he surrounds himself with yes people who he pays to tell him what he wants to hear. Actually, not sure how much he pays since he's renowned for not paying his bills, especially to his lawyers and companies that foolishly provide services to him.

 

[LetsGoBrandon]

Trump's super ego refuses to publicly accept that he had his ass handed to him in 2020 and he surrounds himself with yes people who he pays to tell him what he wants to hear. Actually, not sure how much he pays since he's renowned for not paying his bills, especially to his lawyers and companies that foolishly provide services to him.

You seem quite obsessed with the 2020 election. I look forward to the 2024 election.

 

[jakiejakester]

Projection filled rant.

Really? Are you suggesting that Trump has not lied and that he's not a compulsive liar? Are you actually saying that the 30K lies and misleading statements are lies? Are you really going to embarrass yourself this way? Do you believe there's green cheese on the moon and that the cow jumped over the moon?

What's so very interesting is when a poster in this Forum is so brainwashed, so in denial that they are incapable of knowing the truth and continue to fool themselves into believing the thousands of lies that defeat all that they believe in as the truth. Here's the definition of people who live in denial...do you see yourself in this definition? Probably not because you've already written that you deny the truth in favor of fabrications that make you feel better:

de·ni·al·ist di-ˈnī(-ə)l-ist. dē- plural denialists. : a person who denies the existence, truth, or validity of something despite proof or strong evidence that it is real, true, or valid : someone who practices denialism.

 

[LetsGoBrandon]

Really? Are you suggesting that Trump has not lied and that he's not a compulsive liar? Are you actually saying that the 30K lies and misleading statements are lies? Are you really going to embarrass yourself this way? Do you believe there's green cheese on the moon and that the cow jumped over the moon?

What's so very interesting is when a poster in this Forum is so brainwashed, so in denial that they are incapable of knowing the truth and continue to fool themselves into believing the thousands of lies that defeat all that they believe in as the truth. Here's the definition of people who live in denial...do you see yourself in this definition? Probably not because you've already written that you deny the truth in favor of fabrications that make you feel better:

de·ni·al·ist di-ˈnī(-ə)l-ist. dē- plural denialists. : a person who denies the existence, truth, or validity of something despite proof or strong evidence that it is real, true, or valid : someone who practices denialism.

Do you go to sleep at night with a Trump voodoo doll that you stick pins in?

 

[jakiejakester]

Yawn...... You are quite naive regarding politics. Not many secrets are kept. Leaks are quite common and some of them are intentional.

It's quite interesting to "debate" with someone who's posts make it impossible to determine if they are able to know the difference between Trump's constant lies and truth. Posters who double down, triple down on the lies they so desperately want to be the truth. Here, try to enlighten yourself into just 10 Trump lies about the 2020 election...LOL

10 Trump election lies his own officials called false

 

[Plasmaball]

Man trump played everyone like a fiddle..
Lol..

 

[jakiejakester]

You seem quite obsessed with the 2020 election. I look forward to the 2024 election.

I look forward to 2024 too! Watching Trump continue to spiral off the deep end into his own private hell when he loses another election is delectable especially as he tries to deal with multiple indictments from NY, GA and the DOJ. The worst case scenario is that Trump does NOT get the nomination and that the GOP might then have a real chance of winning the White House but don't fret, the GOP are such zealots for Trump that even if he's sitting in jail they will still vote for him.

 

[LetsGoBrandon]

I look forward to 2024 too! Watching Trump continue to spiral off the deep end into his own private hell when he loses another election is delectable especially as he tries to deal with multiple indictments from NY, GA and the DOJ. The worst case scenario is that Trump does NOT get the nomination and that the GOP might then have a real chance of winning the White House but don't fret, the GOP are such zealots for Trump that even if he's sitting in jail they will still vote for him.

Actually I think the GOP has an excellent chance in 2024 with either Trump or Desantis.

 

[LetsGoBrandon]

It's quite interesting to "debate" with someone who's posts make it impossible to determine if they are able to know the difference between Trump's constant lies and truth. Posters who double down, triple down on the lies they so desperately want to be the truth. Here, try to enlighten yourself into just 10 Trump lies about the 2020 election...LOL

10 Trump election lies his own officials called false

Trump obsession and a link to fake news CNN? No thanks.

 

[jakiejakester]

Actually I think the GOP has an excellent chance in 2024 with either Trump or Desantis.

Of course you do because you get your news from media that feeds you the Trump BS that makes you feel good and never tells you the actually news of the country and the world. Didn't you think that Trump would win by a landslide in 2020 and that there would be tsunami red wave in 2022? How did that reality make you feel?

 

[jakiejakester]

Trump obsession and a link to fake news CNN? No thanks.

! Here's a story that I'm pretty certain that you've missed because the media you look at omits the truth.

Tucker Carlson, Donald Trump and the in-fighting at Fox News

Have you heard about Dominion Voting Systems lawsuit against Fox? Have you read what Fox employees said to the public and admitted in private or is this the first time you've heard?

 

[SoCal]

Trump's super ego refuses to publicly accept that he had his ass handed to him in 2020 and he surrounds himself with yes people who he pays to tell him what he wants to hear. Actually, not sure how much he pays since he's renowned for not paying his bills, especially to his lawyers and companies that foolishly provide services to him.

It's amazing that there seems to be a long line of lawyers chomping at the bit trying to become the next Trump Chump. Maybe they believe that adding, 'President's Lawyer' to their resume is worth the risk. I imagine they would be smart enough to always have their phone set on record and their own good lawyer lined up...

 

[LetsGoBrandon]

! Here's a story that I'm pretty certain that you've missed because the media you look at omits the truth.

Tucker Carlson, Donald Trump and the in-fighting at Fox News

Have you heard about Dominion Voting Systems lawsuit against Fox? Have you read what Fox employees said to the public and admitted in private or is this the first time you've heard?

Nope. I have not been keeping up with that. I assume it will work itself out. And you are only assuming that I watch Fox all the time. The reality is that I only tune in Fox headlines on sattellite radio when I am on the road. Are you suggesting that I should be upset about inflighting in the network? How avbout what has been going on at "fake news CNN for the last several years? The lawsuits they have paid off over slander dwarf anything you think is going on between Fox and Dominion.

 

[LetsGoBrandon]

Of course you do because you get your news from media that feeds you the Trump BS that makes you feel good and never tells you the actually news of the country and the world.

Projection.

Didn't you think that Trump would win by a landslide in 2020 and that there would be tsunami red wave in 2022? How did that reality make you feel?

I did believe that Trump would easily defeat the demenita addled moron(Biden). And Trump did garner more votes in 2020 then he did in 2016. However it was not enough to get past the pandemic porn motivated rush to mass mailout balloting in several swing states, and well as mass ballot harvesting that benefited democrats. As for 2022, I expected the GOP would take the House and the Senate. I was never certain about a red wave. But then there was no blue wave either. The democrats lost the House and still barely hold the Senate. Most likely scenario in 2024 just based on the number of vulnerable seats on the democrat side, is that the GOP takes the Senate and holds onto the House. And I don't think doofus Joe and Kamela will be your nominees in 2024.

 

[jakiejakester]

It's amazing that there seems to be a long line of lawyers chomping at the bit trying to become the next Trump Chump. Maybe they believe that adding, 'President's Lawyer' to their resume is worth the risk. I imagine they would be smart enough to always have their phone set on record and their own good lawyer lined up...

Breaking news!

Grand Jury Votes to Indict Donald Trump in New York

 

[jakiejakester]

Nope. I have not been keeping up with that. I assume it will work itself out. And you are only assuming that I watch Fox all the time. The reality is that I only tune in Fox headlines on sattellite radio when I am on the road. Are you suggesting that I should be upset about inflighting in the network? How avbout what has been going on at "fake news CNN for the last several years? The lawsuits they have paid off over slander dwarf anything you think is going on between Fox and Dominion.

I'm suggesting that it's outrageous that you are in the dark about this story about Fox! It clarifies to me and probably many others here how your posts are so misinformed. Did you now see that Trump has been indicted though he is innocent until proven guilty?

Your whataboutism about CNN compared to Fox is sad too. Perhaps an effort to become informed with the truth would make you a better debater and maybe a better person who now might not be so in love with Trump?

 

[LetsGoBrandon]

I'm suggesting that it's outrageous that you are in the dark about this story about Fox! It clarifies to me and probably many others here how your posts are so misinformed.

I'm suggesting that it's outrageous that you are not as upset with CNN as you are Fox. Unlike you, I don't pay much if any attention to the segments on any network that are basically op ed, such as Tucker Carlson on Fox. I only care about the news. And I get it from many sources, including Fox Headlines on sattelite radio.

Did you now see that Trump has been indicted though he is innocent until proven guilty?

I''m aware. It's shameful that the Manhatten court is weaponizing the criominal justice system for political vengeance.

Your whataboutism about CNN compared to Fox is sad too. Perhaps an effort to become informed with the truth would make you a better debater

Right, we should all just shut up about the sins of CNN and other left wing biased networks and just concentrate on Fox, because you hate Trump.

and maybe a better person who now might not be so in love with Trump?

I have never been in love with any politician in my lifetime. I just support those that campaign on and govern closest to my conservative ideology. The "so in love" nonsense that you push is incredibly childish and likely motivated that by your being butthurt that Trump has any support at all. I just vote my ideology. You are the one with a Trump obsession.

 

[ettoremathedi]

I'm suggesting that it's outrageous that you are not as upset with CNN as you are Fox. Unlike you, I don't pay much if any attention to the segments on any network that are basically op ed, such as Tucker Carlson on Fox. I only care about the news. And I get it from many sources, including Fox Headlines on sattelite radio.

I''m aware. It's shameful that the Manhatten court is weaponizing the criominal justice system for political vengeance.

Right, we should all just shut up about the sins of CNN and other left wing biased networks and just concentrate on Fox, because you hate Trump.

I have never been in love with any politician in my lifetime. I just support those that campaign on and govern closest to my conservative ideology. The "so in love" nonsense that you push is incredibly childish and likely motivated that by your being butthurt that Trump has any support at all. I just vote my ideology. You are the one with a Trump obsession.

There are dozens of candidates with 99% of the platform, yet you keep spewing the Trump cult material. So no, it's not ideology, stop kidding yourself. Another candidate with the same platform should be the nominee if that's what republicans want. But no, they want trump because ditching him or admitting they were tricked is bad for the brand.

 

[devildavid]

What a great recipe for keeping America dysfunctional.

Being mean to assholes is nothing less than "If they go low, that somehow makes it OK to go low with them."

Um, no, it does not. When they go low, we go high.

That is to say: we go high if we are smart and wise and can see the big picture and want to leave America a better place than we found her.

If we want to be immature, weak and emotional, and don't care what happens, then we just be mean to 'assholes.'

Patriotic Americans who want to do their civic duty for America do not escalate political division. They look for a different approach, one that is designed to bring America back together and more united again. They offer a willingness to talk about political issues in a non personally challenging mature and wise way, without judgement. If that is not reciprocated, they simply disengage with those who only want to have immature pissing matches. They don't support division. They foment a more functional America, more able to resolve issues and create socially beneficial policy through brain-storming and compromise.

We all have to ask ourselves. What kind of America do we want to live in? A piss-ass one where immaturity reigns and nothing is more complicated than we/they, where 'we' are the good people and 'they' are the bad people and it is as simple as that and can never be resolved? Or do we want to be a part of social change for the better where we leave this kind of crap behind and transcend above it? We need to 'grow up' as country.

My seeing reality for what it is does not contribute to America being dysfunctional, it contributes to my continued survival. Sorry if I don’t get all mushy about the true deep down human being in total assholes who would only use it to screw me over. I am not being mean to assholes, I am keeping them out of my life. They won’t change because they are certain at that they have no need to change. I am not contributing by not being an asshole, and seeing people for what they are doesn’t make me one.

If you want to prove your point, try having exchanges with the biggest assholes who post here. Come back to me after you have discovered their true underlying humanity and how they care deeply about not being an asshole and want to be decent people. If you can do that here, I will take your fanciful idea seriously.

The bad news is that this country was never united at all and it never will be because assholes don’t want that. They want to mouth empty platitudes like patriotism and unity while getting theirs and screwing others. That is the foundation of our country.

 

[Lursa]

Does anyone else find the timing of Ivana Trump's death last year suspicious? Blunt-force trauma but not homicide. A fall? Nothing I read seemed difficult to 'arrange.' She was intimately involved in mmm's businesses/finances for decades.

 

[Peacenik]

My seeing reality for what it is does not contribute to America being dysfunctional, it contributes to my continued survival. Sorry if I don’t get all mushy about the true deep down human being in total assholes who would only use it to screw me over. I am not being mean to assholes, I am keeping them out of my life. They won’t change because they are certain at that they have no need to change. I am not contributing by not being an asshole, and seeing people for what they are doesn’t make me one.

If you want to prove your point, try having exchanges with the biggest assholes who post here. Come back to me after you have discovered their true underlying humanity and how they care deeply about not being an asshole and want to be decent people. If you can do that here, I will take your fanciful idea seriously.

The bad news is that this country was never united at all and it never will be because assholes don’t want that. They want to mouth empty platitudes like patriotism and unity while getting theirs and screwing others. That is the foundation of our country.

There is no point in engaging with the dysfunctional who have zero interest in civil discourse. People who try to make political discussions personal are not interested in the politics. All they want to do is find someone they think is to blame for 'ruining America' and dump on them. The correct thing to do about minds like that is to marginalize them. Disengage.

If all people interested in civility were to refuse to talk to the disgruntled then they would be left out of intellectual conversations all together.

The problem America has is that we have allowed extremists to invade the mainstream. Mostly in the Republican party, but not exclusively. Extremism belongs on the fringes of society. By simply engaging with them we have given them some credibility, as if they are worthy to be talked to. They are not.

As you have said, it is not possible to have a polite conversation with them. There are only two choices. Refuse to engage with them at all, or get sucked into their dysfunction. There is no way to fight in the gutter without getting dragged into the gutter.

Everyone here was once a child. Some have done a better job of maturing than others. If an immature child is unruly a parent is apt to initiate a 'time out' to give the child time to think about things. That's not possible here. Upon refusing to engage with an individual like that, they simply go find someone else to unload on. Cutting them off temporarily will only give them time to charge up on somebody else and be ready to give you both barrels if you ever try them again.

That is why the only rational recourse is to cut them off forever. Some are able to do that; others can't resist and have to keep going back for more. It is a mistake. It only results in pissing matches, negativity, and feeling badly.

Being able to 'take it' and 'give as good as one gets' are not badges of honor at all, really just indulging in dysfunction. That dysfunction carries over into real life, makes one edgy and unable to get along well with others of different views. Conversely, the ability to identify the moment the line of respect is crossed gives one the ability to tactfully change subjects or disengage IRL, for a more peaceful and rewarding life. The more people who do that, the better America becomes.

One of the changes in our society with the advent of social media has been people who do not know how to mesh well with others IRL. This is because they don't get enough actual face-to-face interaction with others as they are spending so much time on social media. Without eye contact there is a tendency to be more coarse on social media such as an online discussion forum. The trick to avoiding that is to be what may seem overly polite online. That's easier to do when it is pointed out that a record is kept of whatever is said, meaning that anything said can be quoted back to one years later. That should give cause to think twice about making immature posts.

People mature. If one does not wish to be ashamed of what one said years later it behooves to consider one's words carefully. In so doing, one establishes good habits which carry over into real life. A win/win for the individual and for society. And after all. We live in societies.

The question to ask is: "Do we want a better America?" If the answer is yes it is up to us to create that.