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[W#271][W:914] Charlie Kirk Reportedly Shot in Utah: Live Updates

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The FBI has reported that the family of the assassin has confirmed his left-wing ideology partifularly in the last few years. Patel specified during a public briefing that Robinson's family collectively described him as having been "deeply indoctrinated with leftist ideology," and that he had expressed hatred for what Kirk represented, including in text exchanges where he mentioned an opportunity to "take out" Kirk.

 
Hell ****ing yeah I do. It is their fault for not being able to simply exist in the same room as me anymore, regardless that I'm not pushing my identity down their throat to the point they have to treat me like a delicate flower, where I just need basic human respect from family. I don't feel guilty not reaching out to those that curse me on sight lol neither would you? I'm also literally saying I don't block or cut them off. If they called me today and treated me with respect to move on, I'd pretend like it never happened. It's all I want, I didn't transition because I wanted my family to hate me, it was literally a reason for me not to at the start. My basic baseline requirement to having people in my life is that they respect me. Not that they agree with everything I believe in.

I demand my father treat me, their child, with love and kindness and just try to understand knowing he may never get it. Normal things. My father demands I never verbally disagree with him, anything he stands for, or use facts to argue my points because to him, raising me means I owe him on demand chores, listening to his hours long conspiracies without letting me respond, and view him as a good person even though he has done some genuinely evil things in life.

They are hardly the same demands
 
TangoNoCash said:
I agree with you but this persons current views from at least the last few years are being misrepresented.
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No, they are not. He also supported the murderer Luigi Mangione. He's all for political violence until it might come back to haunt him then he cries crocodile tears. I don't buy it for a second.

The left has pushed for speech as violence for a decade now and they now use that to defend violence as speech, as Piker did in the Luigi Mangione case. While he defends acts of murder regularly, he calls for it punctuated cynically with "in a video game" or "in Minecraft" to avoid personal repercussions.

If you're asking me to accept that Trump calling out the left for violent rhetoric is a call to violence but Hassan Piker's actual calls to violence aren't then you aren't part of the solution. Hell, even calling Trump's statements and Hassan's equal is missing the entire point.
 
On September 10, 2025, Radical Far Right extremist and political activist Charlie Kirk was fatally shot while addressing an audience on the campus of Utah Valley University (UVU) in Orem, Utah, United States. The outdoor event was the first stop of the season for his American Comeback Tour, a speaking and debate series organized by Turning Point USA, a conservative organization he co-founded.

Everyone had a happy smile in Utah until the killing of a White Nationalist Trump Loyalist. Plus there is a overwhelming Mormon Population that believes they are the chosen ones founded by Joseph Smith (1805-1844). Smith claimed that in 1823, an angel named Moroni came to him and told him about the existence of gold plates that would tell him the history of America and give him a new covenant from God.

Mormons are a Cult.
 
I'll believe it when it comes out of his own mouth. This reads as "dont let a tragedy go to waste" from a family that really doesn't want their brand of propaganda to be in the hot seat.
 

You are simply taking your father's hard line and justifying it for yourself.

Ƶ∅𝒹i͎αꞓ said:
They are hardly the same demands
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They are the same demands.
 
Except it's not just speech for violence. Its speech and political will used by the right to advocate for and pass laws that are seen as harmful by all these various communities and when the list of communities you think are evil and degenerate outnumber the list of people you call allies then you might look around one day and find not a lot of people give a flying **** what happens to you. Thats the consequence of waging war against various communities rather than building community with various people.
 
There are no calls for violence on his stream that I’ve ever heard so your premise is failed. He’s clearly become more savvy in the last few years because there’s been nothing like the clip you are promoting that I’ve ever seen. I think the political temperature has changed and piker has clearly adjusted his tone.

I understand the Luigi fans because sadly healthcare really has become a us vs them mentality in their quest to appease making as much money as they can off of us and make our lives more miserable to that end. Healthcare and capitalism don’t mix in my opinion.
 
jmotivator said:
You are simply taking your father's hard line and justifying it for yourself.



They are the same demands.
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Expand your point cause no. They aren't at all. And I explained it well enough to let it be if you don't agree. I'm not barking up his tree to come do chores for me at my house, nor would I given interacting with him is more listening to him get drunk and bring up my dead mom calling her a cheating whore. You have no idea what you are talking about saying my demand to him to simply have a conversation with me as equals is the same as someone hell bent on emotional abusing me.

Or maybe you are right, and honestly? I don't give a ****ing duck about it. I'll be the unreasonable one here, easy. At least it leads to more joy and family bonding in my favor. I lose nothing ignoring my dad.
 
Ƶ∅𝒹i͎αꞓ said:
Would Jesus dead name me?
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I can only give you my personal opinion on this based on my personal experience.

I think you should call out to him and ask him to call you... to speak to you... to call you by name and then remain open to see how he answers that. Could be kind of mystical.

When Jesus called Simon, he changed his name to Peter.

And Jesus appeared in a vision to John and said this,

To him who overcomes, to him I will give some of the hidden manna, and I will give him a white stone, and a new name written on the stone which no one knows but he who receives it.

I try to be careful being overly outwardly Christian here because it offends many, but you asked about Jesus.
 
TamleeB said:
It appears the actual motive or motives will be addressed tomorrow as the charges are announced.
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Charges don't address motive. Unless Robinson speaks up, it appears there's little to go on in terms of motive.
 

I've posted it a few times on various related threads, i.e. segments from many of Charlie Kirk's podcasts.
Here it is again:
 
Okay, not a bad idea actually. I pray a lot actually, spiritual in a more natural sense. Atheist to the bone, but placebos work way more than they should leads me to believe in some higher level subconscious connection to mental health and body health. So praying to this person named Jesus sounds like a good evening activity. My guess is that he will respond with neither name cause he is cool like that, and probably sees a name when he looks at me, not what humans decided to call me on a whim.
 
ElChupacabra said:
It seems after the incorrect assumption of the shooter being trans, there's been a rush to grab on to anything that vindicates that position of "trans ideology" being at play here. Currently the trans roommate angle is the "gotcha".
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Some people may be seeing and using that as the "gotcha".

Personally, I just see it as a potentially important detail about the life of the murderer. Not that this is the central issue around which everything revolves.

But I'm not going to say that this is the only or even the most important part of the murderer's identity. (I feel I should say alleged, but I'm not because I believe Robinson has all but admitted that he did this.)

Highlighting this as the absolute central issue is a mistake I think. The same kind of mistake as pretending it doesn't exist at all and that what he dressed up as for Halloween is more important.
 
trixare4kids said:
I've posted it a few times on various related threads, i.e. segments from many of Charlie Kirk's podcasts.
Here it is again:
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What a hilarious video. I've gotten to the part where Kirk expresses his empathy and that he wishes that trans person was comfortable in their body. That's like me wishing you all were raised better. Its because of my empathy....
 

Look, had you not couched the split between you and your father as your transition, we wouldn't be talking about it. There seems to be a sea of strife between you two before the transition.

As you can see from my previous statements, I never defended your father's choices. I was more focused on your statements with regard to disowning you cousin and your aunt, who I would assume treat you with love.

Ƶ∅𝒹i͎αꞓ said:
Or maybe you are right, and honestly? I don't give a ****ing duck about it. I'll be the unreasonable one here, easy. At least it leads to more joy and family bonding in my favor. I lose nothing ignoring my dad.
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Nah, we all have our own paths through life, and an uncomfortable amount of that is chosen for us, though we don't often know it at the time.

Going back to our initial interaction, you wouldn't be ostracized from the the conservative movement for being trans. Even those who are assured in their head that the Bible says you are going to hell would generally leave that to God.

There would be more friction over the "Socialist" bit.
 
roguenuke said:
Kirk had his own security and the school allowed both concealed and open carry of firearms on campus. It was not a gun free zone.
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I think in some ways both sides of this particular argument are fairly moot.

Reason being a sniper is by far the most asymmetrical way to use a gun for the purpose of violence.

The only things that could have improved this situation would be better security around things like rooftops, etc. which is probably expensive and maybe unrealistic. Or some sort of fully bulletproof enclosure for the speaker, which is also something that I don't think is realistic, although we may begin seeing this kind of thing.

But with a sniper, it doesn't matter how many people were packing. They didn't see him.
 
Why does this assassination resemble JFK?

The ones in control of the news have already convicted a man before his trial.
 
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