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[W:236] Top US general compared Trump to 'Hitlerian fascism'

nope because he openly called the president along with half the population nazis, he hates his own people
By own people.... what you mean is: you expect him to support your white nationalism above nation and the nations governance.
 
White Nationalism is the exact same thing as Nazism... these racist know it, they expect everyone else to pretend it is not.

§2385. Advocating overthrow of Government
Whoever knowingly or willfully advocates, abets, advises, or teaches the duty, necessity, desirability, or propriety of overthrowing or destroying the government of the United States or the government of any State, Territory, District or Possession thereof, or the government of any political subdivision therein, by force or violence, or by the assassination of any officer of any such government; or

Whoever, with intent to cause the overthrow or destruction of any such government, prints, publishes, edits, issues, circulates, sells, distributes, or publicly displays any written or printed matter advocating, advising, or teaching the duty, necessity, desirability, or propriety of overthrowing or destroying any government in the United States by force or violence, or attempts to do so; or

Whoever organizes or helps or attempts to organize any society, group, or assembly of persons who teach, advocate, or encourage the overthrow or destruction of any such government by force or violence; or becomes or is a member of, or affiliates with, any such society, group, or assembly of persons, knowing the purposes thereof—

Shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than twenty years, or both, and shall be ineligible for employment by the United States or any department or agency thereof, for the five years next following his conviction.

If two or more persons conspire to commit any offense named in this section, each shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than twenty years, or both, and shall be ineligible for employment by the United States or any department or agency thereof, for the five years next following his conviction.


As used in this section, the terms "organizes" and "organize", with respect to any society, group, or assembly of persons, include the recruiting of new members, the forming of new units, and the regrouping or expansion of existing clubs, classes, and other units of such society, group, or assembly of persons.

(June 25, 1948, ch. 645, 62 Stat. 808; July 24, 1956, ch. 678, §2, 70 Stat. 623; Pub. L. 87–486, June 19, 1962, 76 Stat. 103; Pub. L. 103–322, title XXXIII, §330016(1)(N), Sept. 13, 1994, 108 Stat. 2148.)




America is fully aware of the White Nationalism agenda of Trumpism and the American Military is ready for their asses
 
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§251. Federal aid for State governments​

Whenever there is an insurrection in any State against its government, the President may, upon the request of its legislature or of its governor if the legislature cannot be convened, call into Federal service such of the militia of the other States, in the number requested by that State, and use such of the armed forces, as he considers necessary to suppress the insurrection.

(Aug. 10, 1956, ch. 1041, 70A Stat. 15, §331; renumbered §251, Pub. L. 114–328, div. A, title XII, §1241(a)(2), Dec. 23, 2016, 130 Stat. 2497.)


America is fully aware of the White Nationalism agenda of Trumpism and the American Military is ready for their asses
 
It really is too bad. It used to be, military men would remain non-political as a way to remain professional. The truth, though is uglier. Most people who rise up the ranks of the military are just more political beings, looking out for no one but themselves.
 
It really is too bad. It used to be, military men would remain non-political as a way to remain professional. The truth, though is uglier. Most people who rise up the ranks of the military are just more political beings, looking out for no one but themselves.

Military personnel have been targeted by right-wing groups for a while now.

 
The prescriptions of Law is Already in place and has been for a very very long time!!!

TRUMP, THE POLITICIANS AND FOLLOWERS AND THOSE WHO AIDED AND ABETED HIS SEDITIOUS, SUBVERSIVE, TERRORISTIC INSURRECTION TREASONOUS GROUP SHOULD ALL BE JAILED AND FOR THE ACT OF TREASON BE GIVEN THE MAXIMUM PENALTY.. (THE PENALITIES SHOULD RUN CONSECUTIVE ... WHICH MEANS WHEN THEY GET TO TREASON THEY SHOULD BE GIVEN THE HIGHEST PENALTY FOR TREASON).

Read the Laws.... the laws demand by prescription these penalties.

There is no need to spin in the game of drama antics and belligerent spin cycles of these Trumpist and Right Winger and Conservatives (Confederates) about any of this.

It's time for America to Destroy Racism, Ethnicity Bias, Cultural Bigotry and Anti Democracy Belligerence of White Nationalism and every faction of its existence.

 
They just covered this on the Newshour, video of show and transcript for those patriotic Americans who are interested.


I'm really surprised to read that Pompeo was working with Milley. Of course they cynic in me says was he actually doing that, or was he just staying close to Milley so he'd know that side of it? Lol
 
There was no "intent"- this Blueanon nonsense is ridiculous.
Of course there was intent. We have their literal words as evidence that they wanted to stop the election and put trump back in power.
This is reality and facts don't give a shit about your feelings.

Either you accept reality or continue to be part of the problem living in in an alternate reality.
 
It has nothing to do with him being "a military guy" - you guys are slobbering over the words of someone who told graduating officers that they were going to be fighting aliens, aka "little green men". I'm worried for his mental health.


Ah I see we have reached the portion on the topic where people like you decide to go after his career while still trying to say you are a patriotic American.

You support the most anti American president to ever hold office and you are gonna gaslight the shit out of this because it exposes what you really have always been.
 
Love it when you go into nonsense mode . You certainly say some very strange things . Probably on the Uncertainty principle .

Once the audit data is assembled in sufficient quantity and detail it will all roll out

Have you a friend to keep an eye on you when you start to choke ?
It's less than a month to go! August 13th will be here before you know it.
 
America has long had these people of savagery that wanted to attack American Democracy, based on greed and racism. The Age of Information in this day and time has them full exposed, and they are clearly identified. Those who think they are not, are sadly mistaken, and they don't grasp the scope and intricacy of American Governance's intelligence. Not only is there facial recognition, but that has the usage of A.I. to link that face to anything and everything it can and will find related to the anti-democracy types. This is not new... people should know by the time technology is available to the general public, it has been long utilized by the agencies of governance. It has been relatively easy to round up those who entered the capitol with their malicious vile subversive, seditious, terroristic insurrectionist acts of treasonous agenda. The profiles are more intricate than these types have any concept of. It knows which one are simply willful idiots and those who are evil and malicious and have violent agenda.

We are not as archaic as some of these domestic terrorist think. The government has identify and location and more info on them than they can imagine.
Furthermore, nothing moves through this internet or any other format of communication that the technology does not have the ability to trace and catalog.

These clowns that come on here spewing their Anti Democracy spin... have long been identified, just like most of us that interact in this site, know who those types are, by their handle, and by the commentary they post.

They attack CNN and MSN and such sites, because those site 'research and expose the points, factors and facts... so they try and attack it, but people of Democracy and those who love and respect America... know its not some left wing spin game, as these terrorist anti democracy types would like to cloud the issue and promote their intent to deflect and confound. One can trace back and they will find that what CNN and MSNBC reports, is backed up by documented facts. It's been fact checked repeatedly.

See American Democracy is and always has been a Liberal Principled System. Anything other than that has been about 'greed and racism" wrapped in savagery.
Even when the first act to try and claim only wealthy white men could vote, the Liberal principles refuted that, and the poor whites were given the voice of vote, then the wealthy abused that and put threat of job loss if the poor whites did not vote as they dictated, then came women's rights to vote, and LBJ made it accessible for blacks to vote, the savages played games of Party flips, and gerrymandering , and the Liberal Principle minded amassed and made strong the Democrats once the general groups of racist and bigots fled to the Republican party. Since then, Democrats have pushed Civil Rights, and Economic Opportunity, which can be traced back to the policies of Roosevelt, which went against everything the racist bigots of the Dixiecrats stood for, and they tried to fight it, but then came Goldwater who was like a magnet for the racist to bond with Republicanism and push the delusion of Conservatism, which has been nothing but a remake of Confederacy Idealist.

LBJ broke the back of segregation, Clinton showed what Economic Opportunity could do to benefit all people, and Hillary challenged the white male right wing with her promotion of Health Care for All, and they attacked her, because they never faced a woman who would challenge them in the ways she did, since the days of Eleanor Roosevelt, Hillary was educated in law, and spent her adult life in government so they resented her with a passion. Then came Obama who showed the nation how to fix the messes that were made by right wing greed, and he moved ahead with the health care principles that Hillary once tried to get established, Biden... was there in every step on these processes and changes, and Obama knew Biden had American People's interest at the heart of his principles. So, now there is Biden and Harris, who also knows the law and knows governance, and knows the vile of racist types and how to deal with them, legally and politically.

Biden/Harris will go down in History as the era when American Democracy was put back on track to live up to and honor the principles of its Liberal values, in equality of person as individual, opportunity for all equally, and economic uplift and rebuilding of the nation from the bottom up.

This is what the White Nationalist hate... but their hate cannot overcome the Good of the Nation and Its Democracy Loving People.
 
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So, a long diatribe to say that if you aren't liberal, you are wrong, and a bad person. How thoughtful of you...
 
I'm really surprised to read that Pompeo was working with Milley. Of course they cynic in me says was he actually doing that, or was he just staying close to Milley so he'd know that side of it? Lol
You're probably right, seems like Pompeo denies it here. The Trump Klan Party are all deceptive liars and anti-American trash.

 
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See when LBJ came into office, he know the racist and vile types who were behind Kennedy's death, and Kennedy's want to put and end to Segregation and the First Act that LBJ did, was pass the Civil Rights Act that broke the back of Segregation. They could not kill LJB as they did Kennedy, so they tried to tarnish him by the manufactured escalation of war in Vietnam. Then came Nixon followed by Reagan and the Republicanism that came via Bush's, and then Trumpism.

Now, we are at the point that all America knows the history and the vile of White Nationalism and Racist Vile... and it is on the death bed in America.

2022, will give the power to govern to the Democrats to continue building the 21st Century in the Ideals of Democracy's true and honest respect of person as individual, and nation as a truer Representative Governed Nation, that can and will lead in the 21st Century to spread the truth and honor of Democracy's Liberal Principles and Values.

Those of you who choose to sit silent and not engage to support these points and factors within this line of commentary, should be asking yourself, why are you of choice to be reluctant to speak up and stand up for the Democracy of America.

The Future will continue to unfold and there will be a continued march for a Liberal Society that meets the values and principles laid out in The Preamble to the United States Constitution.

There are many good people who do post good and honest challenge against the vile that is promoted by Right Winger, Conservatives (Confederates) and Trumpist (Nazism Replication). Keep speaking up. do not get bogged down in the ignorance of the vile and malicious types, nor give any concession to the white nationalist vile promoters. America's Greatness of Democracy will continue its pursuit of every principle and value laid forth in its Preamble for every American who honors and respects America's Democracy.

Faith has always been stronger than fear and hope has always given the optimism to pursue Good, Honor and Justice. God's principles live within the values that designed the system of Representative Democracy.

The paganism of Right Wing Evangelicals have long promoted the the Greed and Racism, that borne the malice of Confederate Ideology, and today, we see many people who truly aspire to God's Truth, are awakening and departing the Right Wing Evangelicals and the horrors they have long engaged to damage American with its White Nationalist Agenda.

Many don't like what I write, but they can't defeat it... they can only spew their vitriol and promote their denials, but they cannot make void what truth is.
 
So, a long diatribe to say that if you aren't liberal, you are wrong, and a bad person. How thoughtful of you...

You simply don't understand what "Liberal" means..

Liberal

(lĭb′ər-əl, lĭb′rəl)
adj.
1.
a.
Favoring reform, open to new ideas, and tolerant of the ideas and behavior of others; not bound by traditional thinking; broad-minded. See Synonyms at broad-minded.
b. Of, relating to, or characteristic of liberalism.
c. Liberal Of, designating, or characteristic of a political party founded on or associated with principles of social and political liberalism, especially in Great Britain, Canada, and the United States.
2. a. Tending to give freely; generous: a liberal benefactor.

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1. favorable to progress or reform, as in political or religious affairs.
2. (often cap.) designating or pertaining to a political party advocating measures of progressive political reform.
3. pertaining to, based on, or having views or policies advocating individual freedom of action and expression.
4. of or pertaining to representational forms of government rather than aristocracies and monarchies.
5. free from prejudice or bigotry; tolerant.
6. free of or not bound by traditional or conventional ideas, values, etc.; open-minded.
7. characterized by generosity and willingness to give in large amounts.
8. given freely or abundantly; generous.
9. not strict or rigorous; free; not literal: a liberal interpretation of a rule.
10. of, pertaining to, or based on the liberal arts: a liberal education.
n.
11. a person of liberal principles or views.
12. (often cap.) a member of a liberal political party, esp. the Liberal Party in Great Britain.

VS

con•serv•a•tive​

(kənˈsɜr və tɪv)

adj.
1. disposed to preserve existing conditions, institutions, etc., or to restore traditional ones, and to limit change.
2. cautiously moderate: a conservative estimate.
3. traditional in style or manner; avoiding novelty or showiness: a conservative suit.
4. (cap.) of or pertaining to a conservative political party, esp. the Conservative Party of Great Britain.
5. of or pertaining to political conservatism.
6. (cap.) conforming to or characteristic of Conservative Judaism.
7. having the power or tendency to conserve; preservative.
n.

THE WORLD IS NOT BASED ON CONSERVATIVE... IT IS FORWARD MOVING AND ALWAYS HAS BEEN, NO ONE CAN STOP TIME, NOR CAN ONE BACK UP TIME.
CHANGE IS LIFE.... CHANGE IS THE WAY OF THE WORLD.
 

Our top generals are not random shitposters on Internet forums. They are some of our most educated and knowledgeable citizens, especially with respect to topics like history.

Godwin’s law does not apply.

it’s time to confront the truth, and call it like it is: support for Trump has morphed into an authoritarian/fascistic political movement.
Oh, my over 6 months into the Biden Administration and when asked about Biden results it is all diversion to Trump and Trump hatred. What are the liberal results, don't care, we hate Trump. How about job creation, we hate Trump, how about the border crisis, don't care we hate Trump. That about sums it up, doesn't it
 
So, liberal means broad-minded.

And you just posted a diatribe about how anyone who is on the "other side" is wrong and a BAD PERSON.

Way to be liberal!
 
All he did was admit to believing a fringe conspiracy theory about a "coup" - the guy is nuts.
So what would you call the Jan 6 storming of the Capitol, if not a coup attempt? A picnic?
 
Read "The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich" Everyone loved Hitler....until they learned it was all a lie and Donald, I mean Adolf, was not man enough to face the charges so he committed suicide, the most cowardly of acts of the universe.

I forget the title (sorry) but there is a very good bio on Rommel, Hitler's top general...who was a professional soldier of a line of generations of soldiers. In it you get an understanding of how even the wise and gifted were drawn in. Power seduces and with many who fell in with Der Fuhrer they turned a blind eye...blinded by pride, greed and lust. Hitler bought the military; at the time all Germany saw Hitler as a reformist who gave them their pride back and broke treaties to buy them toys like tanks and submarines.

Trump did no less. Power corrupts, and power seduces. Offering a glimmer of hope to a man who has lusted after something is a powerful incentive.
It is so stunning how people like you buy rhetoric, make baseless charges against Trump, never post any official verifiable results and through that hatred gave us Biden and Radical Kamala Harris. You people have zero credibility in trying to compare Trump to Hitler, keep buying the liberal rhetoric and ignoring basic civics
 
So what would you call the Jan 6 storming of the Capitol, if not a coup attempt? A picnic?
I would call it a non event and one that has been blown out of proportion, sold to the left to divert from the liberal policy and result failures. Where are the charges against that so called coup? You people need to stop buying rhetoric and focus on actual results, like the following

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I would call it a non event and one that has been blown out of proportion, sold to the left to divert from the liberal policy and result failures. Where are the charges against that so called coup? You people need to stop buying rhetoric and focus on actual results, like the following

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Non event? Blown out of proportion? You gotta be kidding. Those goons stormed the Capitol, using baseball bats and flagpoles as weapons. They assaulted police officers and urinated and defecated in places outside of the bathrooms. They destroyed federal property.

And what kinds of flags they were flying? Trump flags, amongst others.
 
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You realize you are sighting CNN ...

Your fake or idiotic outrage against Trump is flat out foolish !

Trump states the Election was stolen, he has evidence, data, and Ballot forensics that he states Proves there was a Coup
against the Amerinca Peopel !! At this point Trump, as the Prez., had the RIGHT and OBLICATION to engage the US Millitarty
becasue that is an ACT OF WAR against America !....

We don't even have to debate the Evidence! Because we have the ability to PROVE who won !
Is all we have to do is go to each contested State, Get the list of "Legal Voters" and have Certified Re-Vote !

The people who DO NOT want to double Check the election are the Criminals ..... And Trump tried his hardest to get
his eveidence in front of a Judge ....

The Constitution says nothing about a "revote". This sore loserism need to end now.
 
The Constitution says nothing about a "revote". This sore loserism need to end now.
We will see a real revote next year as the hate Trump rhetoric and agenda is losing steam rapidly

 
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