[W:23]OFFICIAL First Presidential Debate Thread

[calamity]

I know Trumpkins will deny this reality, but Trump lost Florida, Pennsylvania and Michigan last night.

 

[Mycroft]

People keep slamming Trump for interrupting. The fact is, Biden was the first one to interrupt.

Here is the debate. There were no interruptions until Biden interrupted Trump at 6:50.



Now...everyone knows that Trump is a counter-puncher. You attack him...in this case, interrupt him...then he's going to do it back to you...and harder.

After Biden started the interruptions, the whole thing spiraled out of Wallace's control.

 

[EnigmaO01]

To my surprise, I'd call the shit-show debate pretty much a draw.

Biden looked frail and a bit weak, but he held it together and only had that one mental lapse (green new deal). Only one lapse in 90 minutes is a win for him.

Trump was combative and interruptive, and it hurt him in my opinion. He missed a few key opportunities to defend his record, and box Biden in. His antics are the only reason he did win in my estimate.

"His antics are the only reason he did win." Since when is acting like an idiot in a debate a win?

Biased much?

 

[calamity]

"His antics are the only reason he did win." Since when is acting like an idiot in a debate a win?
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Biased much?

Check this fresh LP ad out.

 

[Oborosen]

Editing my posts to settle your need to talk about who you believe to be a pedophile?

That is desperate.


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Thought had by person at the White House: If you can remember, man, woman, car, camera, TV, you are fit to lead a country and no one has anything to worry about

Actually, if you didn't format your post with such a poorly placed open gap between the top and bottom lines.
Such an instance would not happen.

Then again, I was still just playing by the same idiotic rules that you and your camp so like to play by.
So if you don't like it, then don't do it.

You're welcome.

 

[Oborosen]

lol....is that all you got.

Nonetheless, I’d love to know how you managed to post literally nothing. I couldn’t even quote you without adding (empty).

Chock it up to Hatuey's poor posting skills.

On the other hand, you can be happy that such a designation doesn't fall on you this time around.

 

[Grim17]

Someone explain it to him.


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Thought had by person at the White House: If you can remember, man, woman, car, camera, TV, you are fit to lead a country and no one has anything to worry about

When I said " His antics are the only reason he did win in my estimate." that was a typo... I meant to say "...didn't win..."

 

[Grim17]

"His antics are the only reason he did win." Since when is acting like an idiot in a debate a win?

Biased much?

That was a typo... See post above.

 

[rocket88]

Editing my posts to settle your need to talk about who you believe to be a pedophile?

That is desperate.


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Thought had by person at the White House: If you can remember, man, woman, car, camera, TV, you are fit to lead a country and no one has anything to worry about

If it isn't about pedophilia, he's not jnterested.

 

[foolardi]

If only we didn't have to fact-check the fact-checkers.

" Fact checkers." ? In the age of Trump it has been Pack Checkers.
Hardly a lick of difference between today's Fact Checkers and a
pack of Alaskan wolves out on the hunt.I mean,even Jack London,not a
poltical animal would have to set the record straight about todays political
traps being set.As if the Mueller Special Counsel wasn't among the Biggest
Political traps in American History.
never forget what Lincoln said :
" It is true that you may fool all the people some of the time;
you can even fool some of the people all of the time; but you
can't fool all of the people all of the time "
So Shut-up Man

 

[calamity]

" Fact checkers." ? In the age of Trump it has been Pack Checkers.
Hardly a lick of difference between today's Fact Checkers and a
pack of Alaskan wolves out on the hunt.I mean,even Jack London,not a
poltical animal would have to set the record straight about todays political
traps being set.As if the Mueller Special Counsel wasn't among the Biggest
Political traps in American History.
never forget what Lincoln said :
" It is true that you may fool all the people some of the time;
you can even fool some of the people all of the time; but you
can't fool all of the people all of the time "
So Shut-up Man

Judging by that nonsensical post, it sure looks like we found at least one exception to what you wrote in red.

 

[MTAtech]

Telemundo conducted a poll of debate watchers which found that 66% of Spanish language Telemundo viewers said that Trump won.

Lol, a poll of CNN debate watchers. I'm surprised it wasn't 99% Biden won.

Let me understand this. A poll of people who only understand Spanish watched the debate of two English speaking debaters and concluded Trump won. I think that speaks for itself. If you don't know the language you wouldn't realize he was speaking drivel.

 

[Aunt Antifa]

yawn. You’re as much of a broken record as your idiot babbling president.

but thanks for your honesty about wanting to shove your ridiculous fascist agenda down everyone’s throat. People deserve to know what garbage they are up against, and what they’ll do to keep power.

They sound like defeated sports fans threatening everyone with next season.

 

[foolardi]

Sadly, fact checks don't work, because the point of Trump's endless supply of lies isn't to convince anyone that what he's saying is true. It's a power play.

[video]

" All sin is a form of Lying " -- Saint Augustine
Trump brought America back from the Obama abyss.
It's provable,manifest and real.You can't make up Job numbers,
the record Lowering of Unemployment among Minorites and the dismantling
of Obama's record level of Rules & Regulations.Or the record number of
Federal Judges being appointed.
I can see why so many on the left are totally bugged by The Orange Man.
He sets records while Obama makes moola just because he was President.
Plus Trump sacrificed his Empire to make America Great.
Laugh and scoff all you want.If it takes a few lies to better America and
Americans way of life,then by all means ... Lie away.
Sometimes really good Priests Lie,also.
BTW Saint Augustine may have been wrong :
" Lying is wrong even to save chastity. "
No man can expect to live life attaining Immaculateness.
But Trump comes closer than Most.At least he tries.Americans love
a trier and a fighter.

 

[Airyaman]

People keep slamming Trump for interrupting. The fact is, Biden was the first one to interrupt.

Here is the debate. There were no interruptions until Biden interrupted Trump at 6:50.



Now...everyone knows that Trump is a counter-puncher. You attack him...in this case, interrupt him...then he's going to do it back to you...and harder.

After Biden started the interruptions, the whole thing spiraled out of Wallace's control.

So what you are saying is Trump has no self control? Everyone knows that.

 

[MTAtech]

Judging by that nonsensical post, it sure looks like we found at least one exception to what you wrote in red.

" Fact checkers." ? In the age of Trump it has been Pack Checkers.
Hardly a lick of difference between today's Fact Checkers and a
pack of Alaskan wolves out on the hunt.I mean,even Jack London,not a
poltical animal would have to set the record straight about todays political
traps being set.As if the Mueller Special Counsel wasn't among the Biggest
Political traps in American History.
never forget what Lincoln said :
" It is true that you may fool all the people some of the time;
you can even fool some of the people all of the time; but you
can't fool all of the people all of the time "
So Shut-up Man

THIS is the Times fact checking the statements.

No, there are false statements and there are facts. Researching the statements and concluding that Trump's were false or misleading doesn't mean the fact checks are his enemy. It means facts are his enemy.

 

[Aunt Antifa]

PS: Ttump absolutely seethed with rage when Joe slammed his intelligence.

I would definitely do that again if I were Sleepy Joe.

 

[Deuce]

Telemundo conducted a poll of debate watchers which found that 66% of Spanish language Telemundo viewers said that Trump won.

Lol, a poll of CNN debate watchers. I'm surprised it wasn't 99% Biden won.

a poll of debate watchers. Not people who watched it on CNN.

 

[Hypothetical]

When I said " His antics are the only reason he did win in my estimate." that was a typo... I meant to say "...didn't win..."

I agree with this. if he had not interrupted so much and so hard, and just come back with his counterpoints, he would have done much much better. would have won hands down.

 

[Deuce]

I had the bad sense to watch it. It was like watching two angry old uncles related by marriage arguing loudly over politics during family breakfast at Denny’s and making the rest of the family shrink in their seats from second-hand embarrassment. What an utter lack of maturity and dignity.

The only person I was convinced was the mature, honest adult in the room with any sense was Chris Wallace. I could be convinced to vote for him.

so, like every other debate then

 

[calamity]

" All sin is a form of Lying " -- Saint Augustine
Trump brought America back from the Obama abyss.
It's provable,manifest and real.You can't make up Job numbers,
the record Lowering of Unemployment among Minorites and the dismantling
of Obama's record level of Rules & Regulations.Or the record number of
Federal Judges being appointed.
I can see why so many on the left are totally bugged by The Orange Man.
He sets records while Obama makes moola just because he was President.
Plus Trump sacrificed his Empire to make America Great.
Laugh and scoff all you want.If it takes a few lies to better America and
Americans way of life,then by all means ... Lie away.
Sometimes really good Priests Lie,also.
BTW Saint Augustine may have been wrong :
" Lying is wrong even to save chastity. "
No man can expect to live life attaining Immaculateness.
But Trump comes closer than Most.At least he tries.Americans love
a trier and a fighter.

What a load of rubbish.

 

[MTAtech]

" All sin is a form of Lying " -- Saint Augustine
Trump brought America back from the Obama abyss.
It's provable,manifest and real.You can't make up Job numbers,
the record Lowering of Unemployment among Minorites and the dismantling
of Obama's record level of Rules & Regulations.Or the record number of
Federal Judges being appointed.
I can see why so many on the left are totally bugged by The Orange Man.
He sets records while Obama makes moola just because he was President.
Plus Trump sacrificed his Empire to make America Great.
Laugh and scoff all you want.If it takes a few lies to better America and
Americans way of life,then by all means ... Lie away.
Sometimes really good Priests Lie,also.
BTW Saint Augustine may have been wrong :
" Lying is wrong even to save chastity. "
No man can expect to live life attaining Immaculateness.
But Trump comes closer than Most.At least he tries.Americans love
a trier and a fighter.

You are as bad a Trump regarding false and misleading statements.
This is a chart of black unemployment. It has been steadily decreasing since the Great Recession ended. There is no point where Trump changed the slope. Trump is the rooster taking credit for the sunrise.

Claim: "Trump brought America back from the Obama abyss."
Trump came into office ridiculing Obama for not getting 3% GDP annual growth. Well, neither did DT, who promised 4, 5 & 6% growth but never achieved 3%.


Growth did not pick up once Mr. Trump took office, aside from a short-lived jump on the back of his tax cuts.

 

[foolardi]

CNN conducted a poll of debate watchers which found 60% said Biden won, vs 28% that said Trump won.

Talk about scripted gobbledygook.MSNBC's - Morning Joe - ran a segment
by VOX and another puke site where a single word described Trump's performance.
And a single word described Biden's performance.
I mean,talk about reinventing Ambrose Bierce's Enlarged Devils Dictionary.
Where the definition of a Saint reads : A dead sinner revised and edited.
And Irreligion reads : The principle one of the great faiths of the world.
Our MSM isn't even daffy.They are Crazed.They wouldn't know right from
wrong if their Mommies shoved their face in it.

 

[calamity]

Talk about scripted gobbledegook.MSNBC's - Morning Joe - ran a segment
by VOX and another puke site where a single word described Trump's performance.
And a single word described Biden's performance.
I mean,talk about reinventing Ambrose Bierce's Enlarged Devils Dictionary.
Where the definition of a Saint reads : A dead sinner revised and edited.
And Irreligion reads : The principle one of the great faiths of the world.
Our MSM isn't even daffy.They are Crazed.They wouldn't know right from
wrong if their Mommies shoved their face in it.

Why does your post look like C&P from an email?

 

[Deuce]

I agree with this. if he had not interrupted so much and so hard, and just come back with his counterpoints, he would have done much much better. would have won hands down.

I have no idea how people define “winning” a debate. It seems like “spouting bullshit more convincingly” is the metric.