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[W:23]Obama Went Thorugh FOUR Defense Secretaries...and not a PEEP from the Fake news/Lying Left

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More of the LYING ASS DOUBLE TALK from the **** TALKING LEFT, as Pres.Trump seeks to replace Gen.Mattis, for their policy differences...declared a "CRISIS FOR OUR DEMOCRACY"....and "PROOF OF HOW WEAK TRUMP HAS MADE AMERICA"....by the same LYING ASS LEFT who IGNORED Obama's going through FOUR SECRETRIES OF DEFENSE, ALL OF WHOM WHE WERE CRITICAL OF HIS LACK OF LEADERSHIP (balls) in DEFENSE MATTERS.

A "little reminder" for the Hypocrisy as a Lifestyle Choice left....



Obama on the defense again as another defense secretary speaks



President Obama has not had an easy time with his secretaries of defense.

Two of his defense secretaries wrote books critical of his administration after they left office, and his third was essentially fired. On Tuesday, the White House scrambled to clarify remarks by Obama’s fourth defense secretary, Ashton B. Carter, who said over the weekend that Iraqi forces who collapsed in their defense of Ramadi lacked the “will to fight” Islamic State militants.

Carter’s pronouncement, unusual for its bluntness, angered senior Iraqi officials in Baghdad and seemed to suggest that the president’s strategy, built around supporting Iraqi forces with training and airstrikes, was failing. “Airstrikes are effective, but neither they nor really anything we do can substitute for the Iraqi forces’ will to fight,” Carter said in an interview with CNN. He added that the Iraqi government force, which “vastly outnumbered” the Islamic State attackers, simply refused to fight in Ramadi.



https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...7b4e9a8f7ac_story.html?utm_term=.edc306b89c22
 
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Re: Obama Went Thorugh FOUR Defense Secretaries...and not a PEEP from the Fake news/Lying Left

More of the LYING ASS DOUBLE TALK from the **** TALKING LEFT, as Pres.Trump seeks to replace Gen.Mattis, for their policy differences...declared a "CRISIS FOR OUR DEMOCRACY"....and "PROOF OF HOW WEAK TRUMP HAS MADE AMERICA"....by the same LYING ASS LEFT who IGNORED Obama's going through FOUR SECRETRIES OF DEFENSE, ALL OF WHOM WHE WERE CRITICAL OF HIS LACK OF LEADERSHIP (balls) in DEFENSE MATTERS.

A "little reminder" for the Hypocrisy as a Lifestyle Choice left....



Obama on the defense again as another defense secretary speaks



President Obama has not had an easy time with his secretaries of defense.

Two of his defense secretaries wrote books critical of his administration after they left office, and his third was essentially fired. On Tuesday, the White House scrambled to clarify remarks by Obama’s fourth defense secretary, Ashton B. Carter, who said over the weekend that Iraqi forces who collapsed in their defense of Ramadi lacked the “will to fight” Islamic State militants.

Carter’s pronouncement, unusual for its bluntness, angered senior Iraqi officials in Baghdad and seemed to suggest that the president’s strategy, built around supporting Iraqi forces with training and airstrikes, was failing. “Airstrikes are effective, but neither they nor really anything we do can substitute for the Iraqi forces’ will to fight,” Carter said in an interview with CNN. He added that the Iraqi government force, which “vastly outnumbered” the Islamic State attackers, simply refused to fight in Ramadi.



https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...7b4e9a8f7ac_story.html?utm_term=.edc306b89c22

"Yeah, but!!!!! Obama!"

Have you even read what Mattis wrote? Do you have any idea what the repercussions are of this?

No, you don't.

Keep slurping up the Kool-ade.

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Re: Obama Went Thorugh FOUR Defense Secretaries...and not a PEEP from the Fake news/Lying Left

Can the OP remind us which of Obama's SecDefs resigned specifically over policy?
 

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Re: Obama Went Thorugh FOUR Defense Secretaries...and not a PEEP from the Fake news/Lying Left

"Yeah, but!!!!! Obama!"

Have you even read what Mattis wrote? Do you have any idea what the repercussions are of this?

No, you don't.

Keep slurping up the Kool-ade.

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Oh look!! Beefart with an attack on me, ( living rent-free inside his head) , again...


Yes, I read Mattis' letter; they DISAGREED on some policy issues. Obama went through FOUR Sec's of DEFENSE two of whom WROTE BOOKS RIPPING HIS BALL-LESS FECKLESS NON-LEADERSHIP.

Where was the "CRISIS TO OUR DEMOCRACY" then, HYPOCRITE?
 

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Re: Obama Went Thorugh FOUR Defense Secretaries...and not a PEEP from the Fake news/Lying Left

Obama inherited his first SECDEF, two left on good terms, and one was fired for incompetence.

None resigned because they lost faith (if there was any to begin with) in the president’s competence.
 

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Re: Obama Went Thorugh FOUR Defense Secretaries...and not a PEEP from the Fake news/Lying Left

Obama inherited his first SECDEF, two left on good terms, and one was fired for incompetence.

None resigned because they lost faith (if there was any to begin with) in the president’s competence.

Oh really? That would explain their writing books RIPPING former president Mommy Pants to SHREDS over his ball-less lack of leadership in defense matters.

Feel free to keep making up whatever you need to believe.
 

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Oh look!! Beefart with an attack on me, ( living rent-free inside his head) , again...


Yes, I read Mattis' letter; they DISAGREED on some policy issues. Obama went through FOUR Sec's of DEFENSE two of whom WROTE BOOKS RIPPING HIS BALL-LESS FECKLESS NON-LEADERSHIP.

Where was the "CRISIS TO OUR DEMOCRACY" then, HYPOCRITE?

Nope, just attacking your moronic post.

Who the hell cares about Obama's secretaries (over an 8 year period)? Focus on the disaster that is Mattis essentially warning us that Individual 1 is a nutcase, you can do that....come on...focus.

As for Individual 1....great track record....:lamo

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Re: Obama Went Thorugh FOUR Defense Secretaries...and not a PEEP from the Fake news/Lying Left

Can the OP remind us which of Obama's SecDefs resigned specifically over policy?

Don't try to confuse him with facts and context, he is too busy being on the daily angry RAGE!
 

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Re: Obama Went Thorugh FOUR Defense Secretaries...and not a PEEP from the Fake news/Lying Left

Nope, just attacking your moronic post.

Who the hell cares about Obama's secretaries (over an 8 year period)? Focus on the disaster that is Mattis essentially warning us that Individual 1 is a nutcase, you can do that....come on...focus.

Oh, poor little Beefart...all in a twitter overt the EXPOSED HYPOCRISY of the **** TALKING LEFT, and now MAKING UP BULL**** about what MATTIS actually said.

Mattis said NO SUCH THING.

He said he and the President disagreed on policy matters...which is why the President asked him to step down as well he should have.
 

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Re: Obama Went Through FOUR Defense Secretaries...and not a PEEP from the Fake news/Lying Left

More of the LYING ASS DOUBLE TALK from the **** TALKING LEFT, as Pres.Trump seeks to replace Gen.Mattis, for their policy differences...declared a "CRISIS FOR OUR DEMOCRACY"....and "PROOF OF HOW WEAK TRUMP HAS MADE AMERICA"....by the same LYING ASS LEFT who IGNORED Obama's going through FOUR SECRETRIES OF DEFENSE, ALL OF WHOM WHE WERE CRITICAL OF HIS LACK OF LEADERSHIP (balls) in DEFENSE MATTERS.

A "little reminder" for the Hypocrisy as a Lifestyle Choice left....



Obama on the defense again as another defense secretary speaks



President Obama has not had an easy time with his secretaries of defense.

Two of his defense secretaries wrote books critical of his administration after they left office, and his third was essentially fired. On Tuesday, the White House scrambled to clarify remarks by Obama’s fourth defense secretary, Ashton B. Carter, who said over the weekend that Iraqi forces who collapsed in their defense of Ramadi lacked the “will to fight” Islamic State militants.

Carter’s pronouncement, unusual for its bluntness, angered senior Iraqi officials in Baghdad and seemed to suggest that the president’s strategy, built around supporting Iraqi forces with training and airstrikes, was failing. “Airstrikes are effective, but neither they nor really anything we do can substitute for the Iraqi forces’ will to fight,” Carter said in an interview with CNN. He added that the Iraqi government force, which “vastly outnumbered” the Islamic State attackers, simply refused to fight in Ramadi.



https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...7b4e9a8f7ac_story.html?utm_term=.edc306b89c22

Interesting point. However, 4 wrong doesn't make a right, right?
 

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Re: Obama Went Thorugh FOUR Defense Secretaries...and not a PEEP from the Fake news/Lying Left

Don't try to confuse him with facts and context, he is too busy being on the daily angry RAGE!

Oh yes...anyone exposing the Left's duplicitous BULL**** , must be "raging".

Perhaps the TWO who wrote the books CRITICIZING Obama's defense policies disagreed with him on policy...ya think...since we're CITING FACTS.


We see who is CONFUSED.
 

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Re: Obama Went Through FOUR Defense Secretaries...and not a PEEP from the Fake news/Lying Left

More of the LYING ASS DOUBLE TALK from the **** TALKING LEFT, as Pres.Trump seeks to replace Gen.Mattis, for their policy differences...declared a "CRISIS FOR OUR DEMOCRACY"....and "PROOF OF HOW WEAK TRUMP HAS MADE AMERICA"....by the same LYING ASS LEFT who IGNORED Obama's going through FOUR SECRETRIES OF DEFENSE, ALL OF WHOM WHE WERE CRITICAL OF HIS LACK OF LEADERSHIP (balls) in DEFENSE MATTERS.

A "little reminder" for the Hypocrisy as a Lifestyle Choice left....



Obama on the defense again as another defense secretary speaks



President Obama has not had an easy time with his secretaries of defense.

Two of his defense secretaries wrote books critical of his administration after they left office, and his third was essentially fired. On Tuesday, the White House scrambled to clarify remarks by Obama’s fourth defense secretary, Ashton B. Carter, who said over the weekend that Iraqi forces who collapsed in their defense of Ramadi lacked the “will to fight” Islamic State militants.

Carter’s pronouncement, unusual for its bluntness, angered senior Iraqi officials in Baghdad and seemed to suggest that the president’s strategy, built around supporting Iraqi forces with training and airstrikes, was failing. “Airstrikes are effective, but neither they nor really anything we do can substitute for the Iraqi forces’ will to fight,” Carter said in an interview with CNN. He added that the Iraqi government force, which “vastly outnumbered” the Islamic State attackers, simply refused to fight in Ramadi.



https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...7b4e9a8f7ac_story.html?utm_term=.edc306b89c22

You know, for someone who thinks he’s on the winning side of the argument, you are wound tighter than a fruit roll up.
 

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Re: Obama Went Through FOUR Defense Secretaries...and not a PEEP from the Fake news/Lying Left

Interesting point. However, 4 wrong doesn't make a right, right?

Point is that the Obama Defense Dept., REVOVLING DOOR was never cited as a "CRISIS TO OUR DEMOCRACY" by the FAKE NEWS/LYING LEFT, was it...even after TWO of his former Sec's of Defense SCORCHED HIM in books deriding his FECKLESS LEADERSHIP (or,, more accurately, the lack thereof) on the World Stage.

Trump asks Mattis to step down over policy differences, and "Rome is Burning"....to hear the lying left tell it.
 

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Oh, poor little Beefart...all in a twitter overt the EXPOSED HYPOCRISY of the **** TALKING LEFT, and now MAKING UP BULL**** about what MATTIS actually said.

Mattis said NO SUCH THING.

He said he and the President disagreed on policy matters...which is why the President asked him to step down as well he should have.

Conservative Bill Kristol:

Conservative pundit Bill Kristol told MSNBC’s “Morning Joe” that the retirement of Defense Secretary James Mattis sends a “chilling” message about the decision-making process inside the White House.

The retired U.S. Marine Corps general sent a strong rebuke of President Donald Trump and his foreign policy in his letter announcing his decision to leave the administration, and Kristol said the departure was a big deal.

“It so dwarfs everything else that’s happening right now,” Kristol said.

Kristol said the Mattis retirement came as a surprise to the military and the secretary’s own friends, even after Trump made the unexpected decision to remove U.S. troops from Syria.

“I spoke with a retired general just a couple days ago who is close to Mattis and discreet about his conversations with Mattis, but has been in touch with Mattis throughout,” Kristol said. “He said he’s going to hang in there, Jim really thinks it’s important for the country. Jim doesn’t have a big ego, but he thinks he’s there, he think he’s doing good. He will take a lot of blows and hang in there to prevent worse things from happening.”

Kristol said his decision to retire shows that he no longer believes he can do good inside the White House.

“For me the resignation is so important because it’s not simply that he’s disgusted about the Syria decision or disappointed by it, though he is, or even appalled by it,” he said. “This means that Mattis thought he could not stop a lot of other bad decisions from happening down the road.”
https://www.rawstory.com/2018/12/mattis-saw-coming-msnbc-conservative-says-defense-secretarys-departure-sends-chilling-message/

You need to remove your blinders and start facing the truth about your cult leader.
 

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Re: Obama Went Thorugh FOUR Defense Secretaries...and not a PEEP from the Fake news/Lying Left

Don't try to confuse him with facts and context, he is too busy being on the daily angry RAGE!

This person should be ignored here. Just ranting to rile up people on DP. Not worth the effort to respond. IMO
 

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Re: Obama Went Through FOUR Defense Secretaries...and not a PEEP from the Fake news/Lying Left

You know, for someone who thinks he’s on the winning side of the argument, you are wound tighter than a fruit roll up.

Am I? Of course...anyone citing the LEFT'S BULL**** must be "angry"...or "wound too tight"...or blah blah blah...


Save the sophomoric, silliass, Alinsky BULL**** TACTICS for your fellow hypocrites.

Another AD HOM trying to HIDE FROM THE EMBARRSSING TOPIC of the OP.


SOP for the DP left.
 

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Oh yes...anyone exposing the Left's duplicitous BULL**** , must be "raging".

Perhaps the TWO who wrote the books CRITICIZING Obama's defense policies disagreed with him on policy...ya think...since we're CITING FACTS.


We see who is CONFUSED.

Yes, you are raging, and screaming and yelling. And, as usual, you are embarrassing yourself like with your "entrapment" rage thread and all the other word salad screamfests.

Start enjoying Christmas.

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This person should be ignored here. Just ranting to rile up people on DP. Not worth the effort to respond. IMO

Its comedy gold, it really is.
 

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This person should be ignored here. Just ranting to rile up people on DP. Not worth the effort to respond. IMO

Yes..how dare me shoot the DP Left's preferred narrative down in flames...again...this time , the Left Lies/Hypocrisy over Trump's replacing Mattis...
 

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Yes, you are raging, and screaming and yelling. And, as usual, you are embarrassing yourself like with your "entrapment" rage thread and all the other word salad screamfests.

Start enjoying Christmas.

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No...you are desperately RUNNING from the OP topic, as usual. Now go cry to the mods....again.
 

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No...you are desperately RUNNING from the OP topic, as usual. Now go cry to the mods....again.

No, I addressed the central theme of your silly rant thread, and other posters have noted the circumstances of Obama's secretaries of defense. Yet....you keep running away from the fact that he is the first defense secretary to have left in disgust and spell it out for the world to see. The fact that you aren't troubled by this, and have to go on your typical "But Obama" screamfest shows that you only created this thread as yet another meaningless word salad about Obama. There is a reason no one takes your rage threads seriously.
 

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This person should be ignored here. Just ranting to rile up people on DP. Not worth the effort to respond. IMO

I almost want to feel sorry for Grok...Almost
 

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Re: Obama Went Thorugh FOUR Defense Secretaries...and not a PEEP from the Fake news/Lying Left

Moderator's Warning:
Stop with the attacks or get booted. Stick to the topic.
 

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No...you are desperately RUNNING from the OP topic, as usual. Now go cry to the mods....again.

I addressed the topic, that being Mattis leaving and expressing grave concerns about Individual 1. Talking about Obama is just a waste of time.
 

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Re: Obama Went Thorugh FOUR Defense Secretaries...and not a PEEP from the Fake news/Lying Left

Oh really? That would explain their writing books RIPPING former president Mommy Pants to SHREDS over his ball-less lack of leadership in defense matters.
Please provide excerpts from the books you claim ripped Obama (the guy who got Bin Laden) to shreds. As your perception of facts/reality differs greatly from most peoples, evidence is required.
Feel free to keep making up whatever you need to believe.
That’s more your thing.
 
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