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[W:#23,579]Ukraine War Thread

Their use would decimate Russian armor/troops.
Ukraine would know where they were used.
Yes on muddy ground, come late April, early May ground is drier
Ukraine will be clearing mines for 100 yrs plus and still won't locate all of them

Russia has used these weapons extensively in Ukraine.
Their war, their land

My opinion is providing them the same ability that Russia has.

Even the densest populated & active vibrant modern cities, can still harbor extremely large unexploded ordinance from one generation shy of a century ago!

 
There's 123 signatory nations to the ICC Rome Agreement.

Here they are:

I corrected my post in a follow-up
Signatory countries are obligated to arrest. But does not really happen
Sudan President, ICC warrant, visited Lebanon in 17. No arrest

Now will Putin attend the G20 in India. I think so
India, not a signatory, no obligation to arrest
Outside of Putin's indictment, this sends a clear message to the enablers/elites/oligarchs/security/military, charges & arrests are coming.

The ICC sent a clear message by making Putin's indictment public there are more targets in Russia and some will be public, some will be sealed
 
No, LNG is less then 4%, NG prices are at pre-war level.
Here is some sourced info. Can you supply something to back up your claim?

But those come with a big price tag: Germany paid 109% more to import its gas in 2022, according to data published by its Federal Office of Economic Affairs — accruing a whopping $78.84 billion in costs, despite the fact that it cut its volumes by 30%.

 
Please, feel free to rant; I've been feeling rather lonely in that department in the last year, especially the first six or seven months. As I have always said, regardless of the rhetoric of the west, we have not embraced from the outset that this is his is the greatest challenge to European and Western security interests since World War 2, a war over Ukraine's existential existence and a war between the aspiring and actual democratic world and the totalitarian autocratic and anti western world.

On the news I heard a commentator mention a speech by FDR, upon the introduction of Lend Lease at the annual Press Correspondents Dinner. It is a a model of leadership, the kind of vision and rallying call we have needed since the war began...

Excerpts from the speech do not do it full justice, but a transcript and sound recording can be obtained and/or heard here:


The object lesson is that FDR, even before the US was attacked, had a clear understanding of the beast the world's free nations faced, and he noted it wasn't over "border differences" or colonial territories. He understood that this was a war between two systems, and the one that loathed democracy as their existential enemy would eradicate it upon the first glimmer of a free nation's presence.

And understood the outcome of this conflict will depend on our will:

Upon that will depends the survival of the vital bridge across the ocean—the bridge of ships that carry the arms and the food for those who are fighting the good fight.

Upon that will depends our ability to aid other Nations which may determine to offer resistance.

Upon that will may depend practical assistance to people now living in Nations that have been overrun, should they find the opportunity to strike back in an effort to regain their liberties and may that day come soon!

This will of the American people will not be frustrated, either by threats from powerful enemies abroad or by small, selfish groups or individuals at home.


And:

There is no longer the slightest question or doubt that the American people recognize the extreme seriousness of the present situation. That is why they have demanded, and got, a policy of unqualified, immediate, all-out aid for Britain, for Greece, for China, and for all the Governments in exile whose homelands are temporarily occupied by the aggressors.

And from now on that aid will be increased—and yet again increased—until total victory has been won.


The British are stronger than ever in the magnificent morale that has enabled them to endure all the dark days and the shattered nights of the past ten months. ...

In this historic crisis, Britain is blessed with a brilliant and great leader in Winston Churchill. But, knowing him, no one knows better than Mr. Churchill himself that it is not alone his stirring words and valiant deeds that give the British their superb morale. The essence of that morale is in the masses of plain people who are completely clear in their minds about the one essential fact—that they would rather die as free men than live as slaves.

These plain people—civilians as well as soldiers and sailors and airmen—women and girls as well as men and boys—they are fighting in the front line of civilization at this moment, and they are holding that line with a fortitude that will forever be the pride and the inspiration of all free men on every continent, on every isle of the sea.

The British people and their Grecian allies need ships. From America, they will get ships.

They need planes. From America, they will get planes.

From America they need food. From America, they will get food.

They need tanks and guns and ammunition and supplies of all kinds. From America, they will get tanks and guns and ammunition and supplies of all kinds. ...

And so our country is going to be what our people have proclaimed it must be—the arsenal of democracy.

Our country is going to play its full part.


Cont

So that's where "Arsenal of Democracy" comes from?

The "Front Line of Civilization" ain't bad, either!
 
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It's amazing how long they continue to hold out. I have no idea what to make of it.
 
So how are the Europeans replacing the kit they send to UKR? U.S. replacement?
No, Rheinmetall, KM, MTU and so on will have their ordering books overflowing full. Production capacity in the US is struggling, too.
The European, Asian and US defense industry will make a lot of money and will run at full capacity for a decade.

Rheinmetal is talking with Ukraine concerning a factory for its Panter ( 4th generation tank).
 
That's exactly what I wrote. You're now saying the same thing yet you claim Germany is in economic trouble because of their support for Ukraine?
It's the 3rd / 4th biggest single economy in the world and has recovered from far worse - including rejoining with the bankrupt former East Germany.



And that doesn't strike you as a way for BASF to hike up and profit from fertiliser sales just when there's the beginning of a global shortage in fertiliser?
Germany is expected to have a low growth this year of 0.2, according to the German government. 1.8 next year would be like a boom. If Germany does 1.2, it normally means a red hot economy
 
Even the densest populated & active vibrant modern cities, can still harbor extremely large unexploded ordinance from one generation shy of a century ago!

They find those bombs in Germany on a weekly base, during construction in the cities. from 250 lbs to over 2000 lbs.
 
Yes, but with high inflation, high interest rates, at some point it blows up,

Recessions, high inflation, and high interest rates don't go hand in hand.

Interest rates are raised to slow down inflation that typically occurs in a heated economy.
 
Some don't get it that trillions of dollars/Euros etc, spply shortages, all increase inflation, wages and higher interest rates to control.
The question is how hard/long the recession will be.
Like I said in a previous post higher interest rates and inflation aren't what causes recessions.
 
they are shuttering the ammonia plant because of the high cost of US supplied LNG

The article actually says this: "However, it has been particularly affected by its dependence on gas piped from Russia, and has previously announced a €7.3bn writedown on plants in Russia that have been expropriated."

The gas is Russian and Russia also confiscated BASF plants in Russia.
 
Here is some sourced info. Can you supply something to back up your claim?

But those come with a big price tag: Germany paid 109% more to import its gas in 2022, according to data published by its Federal Office of Economic Affairs — accruing a whopping $78.84 billion in costs, despite the fact that it cut its volumes by 30%.

All that is a pittance compared to the real price of Russian gas. Never again.
 
If you read the article you will know the reason why they are shuttering the ammonia plant because of the high cost of US supplied LNG. They do not want to go bankrupt.
BASF does a world wide restructuring for cost savings. That will cost 2700 jobs world wide, 700 in Germany. Apparently the 3 German plants are for several reasons not working as cost effective as other. BASF said overregulation was the main reason and the high cost of energy is part of it, on top of it they have overcapacities in Europe. The amonia plant in Antwerpen will be able to cover the EU market handily. One of the plants in Germany is producing a chemical with sales way below expectations and gets closed for that reason.
So, no gloom and doom in Germany. One bonus from the Ukraine war, the refugees are rather well educated and highly motivated to learn and get snatched up by the industry.
 
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